Weapon Delivery Planner released
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Falcas,
Im a BMS newbie and I’m really excited to try out your program. I’m having some issues though loading my campaign data into the WDP.
I’ve loaded my callsign.ini and I can load my campaign file but when I try to select my package, I can’t expand the US bar. Is there something really basic that I’m missing?Thanks a ton for all of your time and effort!
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Just expand the ROK, you find your flights there.
The US is part of the ROK in the campaigns.Gr Falcas
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Gah! You’re completely right. I must’ve written down the wrong package number when I was searching before.
Thanks for the speedy response.
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Falcas can you please confirm if the following is correct.
(1) Create TE. Adjust waypoints, loadouts, PPTs etc.
(2) Exit TE builder go into mission, pause, create lines which I cannot create in WDP and adjust target waypoints to exact coordinates if possible. Save DTC.
(3) Alt TAB out of Falcon, open WDP, open mission. Select relavent flight. Open TE file in WDP.
(4) Go to MAP and create additional lines if neccesary. Check that lines/PPTs created in TE show up. Check waypoint coordinates and replace ‘blanks’ to NAV and STRIKE as relavent.
(5) Go to DTC in WDP and make relevant changes. Save all to DTC.
(6) I then go to the TE folder and immediately make a copy which can be distributed.
(7) If I exit falcon and WDP and reload I should now be able to load up the TE and everything should be set up correctly with specific target coords etc right?I notice the following problems:
(1) No matter what I do the target coordinates do not show up automatically like stated in the manual.
(2) Same goes for air to ground weapons. They NEVER show up. I am not sure if it is with specific bomb types only. I tried with BDU50s and MK82AIRS. -
Falcas can you please confirm if the following is correct.
(1) Create TE. Adjust waypoints, loadouts, PPTs etc.
(2) Exit TE builder go into mission, pause, create lines which I cannot create in WDP and adjust target waypoints to exact coordinates if possible. Save DTC.
(3) Alt TAB out of Falcon, open WDP, open mission. Select relavent flight. Open TE file in WDP.
(4) Go to MAP and create additional lines if neccesary. Check that lines/PPTs created in TE show up. Check waypoint coordinates and replace ‘blanks’ to NAV and STRIKE as relavent.
(5) Go to DTC in WDP and make relevant changes. Save all to DTC.
(6) I then go to the TE folder and immediately make a copy which can be distributed.
(7) If I exit falcon and WDP and reload I should now be able to load up the TE and everything should be set up correctly with specific target coords etc right?Basically you can do what you write and will work. However you are making this more complecated than it is.
At (1), you don’t need to create the PPTs, can also be done automatically in WDP. Is a choice.
At (2), All lines can be created in WDP as well as in BMS.
You write that you adjust target waypoints to exact coordinates. Are you sure you are doing this correctly? For the problems you describe this part is very important.
Recon your target, in the recon screen set the correct STPT and hit assign. Then save the DTC. (to check, write down these coordinates)
At (4), ??? Where are you checking this??? why would you have “blanks”. There should be no need to replace anything. (This is an option where you go wrong)
at (6), read the article “Mission Planning with WDP” chapter “Managing your Datacard”.
at (7), as long if you have the correct TE.ini in the correct directory (depending on the theatre) you are all set.I notice the following problems:
(1) No matter what I do the target coordinates do not show up automatically like stated in the manual.
(2) Same goes for air to ground weapons. They NEVER show up. I am not sure if it is with specific bomb types only. I tried with BDU50s and MK82AIRS.(1), Where do you expect the coordinates to show up automatically?
(2), What weapons do you expect to show up where?Gr Falcas
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Basically you can do what you write and will work. However you are making this more complecated than it is.
At (1), you don’t need to create the PPTs, can also be done automatically in WDP. Is a choice.
At (2), All lines can be created in WDP as well as in BMS.
You write that you adjust target waypoints to exact coordinates. Are you sure you are doing this correctly? For the problems you describe this part is very important.
Recon your target, in the recon screen set the correct STPT and hit assign. Then save the DTC. (to check, write down these coordinates)
At (4), ??? Where are you checking this??? why would you have “blanks”. There should be no need to replace anything. (This is an option where you go wrong)
at (6), read the article “Mission Planning with WDP” chapter “Managing your Datacard”.
at (7), as long if you have the correct TE.ini in the correct directory (depending on the theatre) you are all set.(1), Where do you expect the coordinates to show up automatically?
(2), What weapons do you expect to show up where?Gr Falcas
Falcas, thanks for the tips.
Regarding the last two points.
For point number (1) aren’t the strike coords supposed to show up in the data card. I thought that if a steerpoint was designated ‘strike’ the coords would automatically show up in the data card. At this stage I just manually type them in.
About point number (2) when you have loaded weapons in the TE and you load the mission in WDP and select the flight. The weapons all show up in the data card except the A2G weapons. I have to type this in manually too. Its no biggy but I just want to make sure the wdp is working properly on my pc.
Finally about the ‘blanks’. If you go to the TE and adjust the waypoint of the target and IP using the recon screen and save. I then go to the WDP and if you go to DTC/steerpoints you will notice the coords are there but the steerpoint type is blank. I read in the manual you must then simply update it again in WDP so that the data card shows strike again. (See page 14 of the WDP manual v2.0.
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Hi,
Now that BMS has been released, Weapon Delivery Planner, (WDP in short) can also be released.
WDP is a planning tool for Falcon that will help the pilot. The program contains so much that is is beyond this post.
Check out this website for the download and articles about WDP.
http://www.weapondeliveryplanner.nlJust a couple of things that WDP will do for you.
- Manage your DTC. More than you can actually do in BMS itself.
- Create a datacard/lineup card with a few clicks.
- Manage all the files for large MP flights.
and much much more
Enjoy,
Falcas
Awesome! Another quality tool we can use.
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When loading WDP “ALOW MSL” in DTC -> SYSTEMS -> ICP always appears to be reset to 10000 feet and, unlike everything else on this page, does not display the value already present in callsign.ini
Currently one must therefore correct ALOW MSL every time.
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When loading WDP “ALOW MSL” in DTC -> SYSTEMS -> ICP always appears to be reset to 10000 feet and, unlike everything else on this page, does not display the value already present in callsign.ini
Currently one must therefore correct ALOW MSL every time.
You are correct, was a small typo in the code. Fixed in the next update.
Thanks for the report.Gr Falcas
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Hi Falcas, could you please have a look at my post #387 and confirm if that is normal?
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Falcas, thanks for the tips.
Regarding the last two points.
For point number (1) aren’t the strike coords supposed to show up in the data card. I thought that if a steerpoint was designated ‘strike’ the coords would automatically show up in the data card. At this stage I just manually type them in.
No, these should be inserted by hand. (next update)
About point number (2) when you have loaded weapons in the TE and you load the mission in WDP and select the flight. The weapons all show up in the data card except the A2G weapons. I have to type this in manually too. Its no biggy but I just want to make sure the wdp is working properly on my pc.
All weapons are working correctly on my systems (3 different pc) and many other users.
So why are they not showing up for you?Finally about the ‘blanks’. If you go to the TE and adjust the waypoint of the target and IP using the recon screen and save. I then go to the WDP and if you go to DTC/steerpoints you will notice the coords are there but the steerpoint type is blank. I read in the manual you must then simply update it again in WDP so that the data card shows strike again. (See page 14 of the WDP manual v2.0.
First of all, there is a much newer manual for ver 2.4. (but that is old aswell )
That the type is blank is very normal. As the manual describes, this happens when you created precision coordinates for those STPT. No need to change anything, the manual only says that you can if you want. But that also means that you loose the precision of the STPTs.Gr Falcas
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Thanks Falcas,
Not sure what I am doing wrong so that the weapons are not entered correctly. Maybe I can create a TE and send the files to you sometime with a back up data card and you can have a look?
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Sure, I’ll pm you the email.
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Hi Falcas,
Two new issues that I think are wrong.
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TOSS -> DED Data. In DED Data Panel, TGT-TO-VRP Range is not convert to nm.
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In HADB, DED Data (VRP, PUP, OA1, …) are not correctly saved to DTC when push “Save to DTC” button.
Thank you!!
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I was messing around with the WPD for the first time and wondered if it were possible to calculate everything through the WDP and, instead of loading it to the DTC, manually input the DED data while on the ramp. I tried this, but when I went for the attack, my steering cues never appeared in the HUD. I was in CCIP mode if that matters–I think I heard somewhere that you have to be in CCRP mode for the HUD cues to be visible. Is this true?
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Hi jinro88. It is possible. The first versions of WDP you had to input manually. Make sure the correct HUD mode is selected on the DED that is VIP or VRP.
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Just returned from an Israel Campaign mission where all went well except the stupid AI that once again didn’t bomb anything…
There where 2 things…
1. after bombing (stpt 5 of my route) the nav stpt line seemed to change and had to load the DTE that corrected things up.
2. Even though I saved and reloaded everything 100 times (before hit fly) in the datacard (meaning on WDP) was showing my loadout with 2xGB32 and I was loaded with 8xGB32… Also to add to that, this made me insecure with what loadout I will be when entering the 3dworld. Thankfully it was the correct.There must be some limitations on AI profile… For example I had 8 GB32 and set on target (stpt 5) altitude 5.000ft. Gave the command on stpt 4 show them split and gain altitude but never hit anything. Although I have to say they called joker in the meantime…
So they canceled and gone RTB cause of joker fuel…??? I thought that they RTB when on Bingo and not on Joker.
Also a q here when AI go RTB do they follow the stpt’s or they go straight to the base in a perfect line?Still I have the insecurity if I have done the steps ok. All hell buttons there confuse me being an oldfart already… :rofl:
I believe a general extra huge button saying campaign and entering the program to CAMPAIGN MODE disappearing or graying and disabling all the buttons and choices that are not needed would be best.
Also a Help file with 1.2.3.4.5.6…. minimum basic steps for campaign only would be great like for example took me some time to find the mission file and also now I don’t remember where I found it… I was going like touch and see what shows up… lol
Also it would be great a button to reset the files (campaign or TE) like the user never ever used WDP.Is it only me with those confusions??? (lol sure I am… :rofl: )
The good thing was that I set stpt 19 as the target and in 3d pit it showed up the hud symbology when I chose that stpt… So that part worked intentionally and perfect… Also I got how to change that target stpt from the ICP… wohooo…
I saved the datacard local (I believe… lol… it said so…)Once again thanx Falcas…
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2. Even though I saved and reloaded everything 100 times (before hit fly) in the datacard (meaning on WDP) was showing my loadout with 2xGB32 and I was loaded with 8xGB32… Also to add to that, this made me insecure with what loadout I will be when entering the 3dworld. Thankfully it was the correct.
WDP does not change anything in your mission files,so the loadout is never changed.
The loadout screen you get is so that you can check (or change) the loadout. This is used to calculate the performance.
As WDP is reading the mission files, it will take the loadout what is in the file. So if you join a mission (in BMS), then change the loadout, that change can only be seen in WDP if you save the mission (in BMS) and load that file in WDP.Gr Falcas
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thanx m8… Now let me tell u something in Israel I noticed some difference on load weight and drag factor between Falcon and WDP. Is that the case or something is wrong there? I had 8 gbu 38’s and a 300gl centerline tank. and the stock AA configuration… 2 pythons 4 and 2 sidewinders. I checked the weapons models where all the same in both loadouts (Falcon and WDP).
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Hi Falcas,
Two new issues that I think are wrong.
- TOSS -> DED Data. In DED Data Panel, TGT-TO-VRP Range is not convert to nm.
- In HADB, DED Data (VRP, PUP, OA1, …) are not correctly saved to DTC when push “Save to DTC” button.
Thank you!!
Hi Ender,
Missed your post, sorry for that.
I had a look and your where right.
Both fixed in the next update.Gr Falcas