Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.35
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I am working over 10 hours 2 days if I can make it am I ask.
And finally I am not asking to you for help.
Dont bother me
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Are you @oakdesign I am asking to him
why you are answering?
Also I asked too today but you don’t give an answer @oakdesign great man who helping me and others
First of all maybe calm down a bit. You should recognize that without the work of @linknet we wouldn’t have that great profile as he converted it for us to work as it is in it’s current state.
Here is the Profile I have shown with the full cockpit on one monitor and only the Landinggear Panel copied to a second monitor.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WOGy_sQBXvJQ6AXICP0Q54FZOcCzWbr7/view?usp=sharing
I doubt that just using that would solve your problem cause. You haven’t provided real meaningful information where / at which point you struggle to get the Tablet setup to work.
Have you followed the steps I posted in my fisrt basic setup video.
1. Are you able to move any windows application to the tablet and cotnrole it with touch inputs?
2. Are you able to start a profile on the tablet and send keystrokes to an active application such as Notepad or any text editor
If you are not able to achive that then it doesn’t make sense to go on with BMS as it won#t receice any inputs
3. If you can do 2. but don’t receive inputs in BMS
a) run BMS in windowed or borderless mode
b) run both BMS and HeliosControlCenter with administrative rights
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thank you very very much oakdesign you are very great person.:drink:
I am calm down an work will on your all advices tomorrow, its too late time for me.my eyes killing me now.
see you tomorrow I hope I can solve problem with you help
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I m trying again everything doing same like you but in key file side which one choosing?
My problem is panel view on ipad screen not clickable
trying again and again I hope I can solve it -
I m trying again everything doing same like you but in key file side which one choosing?
My problem is panel view on ipad screen not clickable
trying again and again I hope I can solve itSorry but your description is not really helpfull to get you further.
You haven’t answered a single question that I asked1. Are you able to move any windows application to the tablet and control it with touch inputs?
2. Are you able to start a profile on the tablet and send keystrokes to an active application such as Notepad or any text editor
If you are not able to achive that then it doesn’t make sense to go on with BMS as it won’t receice any inputs
3. If you can do 2. but don’t receive inputs in BMS
a) run BMS in windowed or borderless mode
b) run both BMS and HeliosControlCenter with administrative rights
c) double check that you are using the correct key fileIt’s hard to help without knowing at which part you might have a problem
So again
if you run the Profile with the Gear Panel on the tablet and you click on #1 does the HCMS panel #2 open?
if no,
than your tablet doesn’t even recognize touch inputs and that would have to be looked into first
if yes,
than your tablet setup at least receives touch input as opening the HCMS panel by clicking on 1#1 the keyfile is not involved yetconcerning the keyfile.
1. The keyfile referenced in the Helios Profile Editor has to be the one that you use in BMS as well
2. Your used keyfile must include all used callbacks that are used in the Helios profilethe last point is often where users fail.
As an example lets use the Landing light switch. In BMS there are multiple callbacks for the Landing light switch
in the default BMS key file only the red has a keyboard key assigned to it, but for Helios we need the 3 blue ones to have keyboard keys assigned.SimLandingLightInc
SimLandingLightDec
SimLandingLightUp (landing)
SimLandingLightMid (OFF)
SimLandingLightDown (taxi)
SimLandingLightCycle (new cycle)that’s why Helios Profile Developers distribute a keyfile with their profiles.
you need to ensure that you have all keybinds from the keyfile provided with the profile in the keyfile that you reference in the Falcon Interface and that this is the keyfile you use in BMS
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Thanks again your help.My answers below
1 question answer:Yes I am dragimg tablet pushing and using windows app.
2 question answer:Profile starting on tablet but keystroke dont work
3 question answer:I am using İce profile key file or BMS full ey file anything wrong??? -
Ok before we go on with keyfile just some more questions
1. Are you using US layout keyboard or other Language
2. Are you using alternative Launcher (restricts the keyfile name that can be used) -
1.Using USA keybord
2.No,I am using Splashtop app for windows and iPad wired display app on iPad.I figured my right mouse working on my iPad which is 4th screen but my touch movement don’t work.And in your profile I am playing Sim on 1 monitor your profile using main screen for cockpit and blocking my game I can’t see
when I choose profile editor touch for buttons right mouse working on iPad when I choose swipe don’t work.
I don’t know why is working like that?
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@oakdesign I figured my mouse cursor when I try touch my ipad is going there ,I think it doest has to be go there am I right?
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I did as you suggested.
I get a mouse cursor on screen 2 that is in sync with the cursor on screen one and they move together.
However when you move the cursor over anything in the helios screen 2 and click the action is centered on screen 1. So i I higlight the landing gear in screen 2 and click, whatever is under the cursor in screen 1 is what is selected. If that makes sense.
For the output of screen 2 it says 1920x1080 and 3840x . Should there be two resolution?
In DCS I have to shift resolution to the 3840 as stated in the profiles.
Thanks
Doug
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I did as you suggested.
I get a mouse cursor on screen 2 that is in sync with the cursor on screen one and they move together.
However when you move the cursor over anything in the helios screen 2 and click the action is centered on screen 1. So i I higlight the landing gear in screen 2 and click, whatever is under the cursor in screen 1 is what is selected. If that makes sense.
For the output of screen 2 it says 1920x1080 and 3840x . Should there be two resolution?
In DCS I have to shift resolution to the 3840 as stated in the profiles.
Thanks
Doug
I also get the two cursors but if you disable the mouse in BMS by clicking the “mouse” button on the LH Eyebrow in the profile at least it won’t select something you hadn’t intended.
Sorry but I don’t understand the screen problem, can you clarify that, where are you reading those figures from?
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I think he wants to operate the Profile on a non touchscreen.
Another option when using Helios without a touchscreen is to setset g_bMouseButton4TogglesClickablePit 1 // If set, the 4th mouse button (if available) will toggle between mouselook and clickable pit. By the way: the wheel is button 3
in bms cfg file and then click mouse button 4 before moving the mouse out of the BMS creen over to the Helios screen and reenable in pit mouse clicks once mouse is moved back to BMS monitor
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set g_bMouseButton4TogglesClickablePit 1 // If set, the 4th mouse button (if available) will toggle between mouselook and clickable pit.
I knew I’d read that somewhere but couldn’t find it.
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I worked on 5 hours yesterday.And I figured my second monitor or first one is not touch screen if I want use touch screen option I have to open window’s 10 touch screen option from human interfaces side .
@oakdesign Could you try your profile without 2nd touchscreen monitor only main game monitor and iPad ?And pls look in device manager your windows seeing iPad like a touchscreen? -
I worked on 5 hours yesterday.And I figured my second monitor or first one is not touch screen if I want use touch screen option I have to open window’s 10 touch screen option from human interfaces side .
@oakdesign Could you try your profile without 2nd touchscreen monitor only main game monitor and iPad ?And pls look in device manager your windows seeing iPad like a touchscreen?I think your Ipad touch issue might be related with splashtop.
The Profile i provided would run with only the IPAD screen on my side as i currently make a tutorial video serie and been testing with Ipad android tablet and android phoneAs I stated I’m using a different apps for making the Ipad a touch monitor namely tested and working on my side without having to to anything on WIN10 HID interface. I can’t currently test splashtop as spacedesk and splashtop can not be installed at the same time on the same machine
the 2 application I have tested and report working for using an IOS/Android device as extended touchscreen in combination with Helios
DuetDisplay.
https://www.duetdisplay.com/- can be used over USB connection
- high framerate 60FPS
- No noticable lag
- not free Tablet side component app has to be prurchased
- Single device only (you can’t connect multiple tablets at the same time)
and
spacedesk
https://spacedesk.net/- no cost for windows and or IOS/Android app
- multidevice support (can add multipe devices as additional screens even mixed i.e Ipad and android phone)
- only wireless so windows PC and IOS/Android have to be in same network, wired connection only over thetred USB (usually not available on wifi only tablets)
- depending on network possible lag
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I tried spacedesk is working touchscreen on ipad with your profile thank GOD:bdance: but in your profile is using monitor one so I cant see my sim could you change your main screen to second monitor in your profile and add again.
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open profile in profile editor select top menu Profile reset monitor and rearrange to your current monitor layout
btw that is a step that always has to be done of you are going to use a profile that is made by someone else as you never can assure that the monito layout on the creator machine is the same as the one on the user machine
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Thank you and I figured when I touch my ipad open landing lights its works but in Sim doesnt happening.
My actions dont see in my game but my right and left mouse buttons are workings in game. -
Thank you and I figured when I touch my ipad open landing lights its works but in Sim doesnt happening.
My actions dont see in my game but my right and left mouse buttons are workings in game.most likely now keyfile issue
Step 1 you must use the same keyfile in Helios falcon interface than you use in BMS
Step 2 this keyfile must have all the keybinds used in helios profile. this is not the case if you are using the default BMS - Full.key
So either you switch to the keyfile that is provided in the ICE Profile download.
Or you copy the content of the BMS - Ice’ Helios Profile.key to your own keyfile (only replaceing the keyboard part so you don’t loose your joystick setup.
Or set the needed callbacks manually in BMS (not recommended lot of work)so for Landing light the profile need to have
LIGHTS Switch - LANDING
LIGHTS Switch - OFF
LIGHTS Switch - TAXIwith keyboard keys assigned
if you are using a default BMS key file
These don’t have a keyboard key assinged so Helios will send nothing
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I got it thanks could you give me a your x65 key file?for use your profile