What happened with the mavericks in the bad weather training mission? BMS 4.35.1
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Hello, Arostar. I’ll attempt to throw in my two pennies. Without a video, of course this is pure speculation Once the carat has moved into the Mav’s DLZ, have you tried to command Area Track (TMS-Right), then Point Track (TMS-UP) again? From just the image on the TGP, I notice the “T” above the station. This is common when Point Tracking outside the DLZ for the Mav. Concerning the bad weather, Mavs can be finicky creatures. Reading Vipers in the Storm, and watching subsequent videos, the author at times had hell getting a good lock with them. Especially in fog, haze, and smoke. They aren’t a magic weapon that can see through that stuff. So asking for a fix may not be appropriate, and what we have may be close to reality. In conclusion. If my weather report showed such a forecast at my target area, I would not be looking at the 65s to save the day. Good luck, 65s are fun to employ (in the right circumstance).
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Hello Quasi_Stellar. I have tried all the options already, including with recapture through TMS right and pressing TMS up again). As you can see in the screenshot, I also tried to lock onto the target even in small corridor where is no cloud, there is one such small space, I just cannot understand why the rocket does not see the target even in such a narrow cloudless location if the problem is really in the clouds? Well, that is the mission purposes, the maverick was set and the conditions were set, but even when you do everything right, the rocket does not work properly and you can’t lock the target
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What is your angle (off bore-sight)?
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What is your angle (off bore-sight)?
the angle is straight, there were no errors during boresighting and after that, I checked with multiple replays of the mission, I also checked the capture on other objects such as buildings and they are captured normally and also checked the lock on the ships and there is normal capture too
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From the screenshot you are very close to the target and handoff still going on and your cross is slightly outside the keyhole, was the cross blinking or steady?
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From the screenshot you are very close to the target and handoff still going on and your cross is slightly outside the keyhole, was the cross blinking or steady?
It’s steady. Because I already flew too close while waiting for a capture from a distance of about 6 miles and then when it’s too late freeze the time and take a screenshot. I was lock up the ships by mavericks in the more sharp angles, the reason is definitely not in this
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I recorded and uploaded a video to YouTube for clarity of the problem how it’s happen
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Thank you fo the vid… I will watch it.
That said, to me, I always considered the employment of AGM-65 in such conditions to be a kind of heresy considering that it’s seeker is optical (and IR for the B D E versions … IR effeciency in cloud or fog or mist is bad.)
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Well, if in reality the Mavericks works like that, then I have no complaints. But then I don’t understand why this training mission is needed at all if this weapon does not work/works bad in such conditions)
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I just watched your video and the handoff does not seem to want to work, even though you have a good LOS and good visibility.
Did you try using the FCR instead of the TGP to get a ground lock and then slew the Mav onto a target from the WPN page? If you could get a lock in that setting, it could indicate that the MAV sensors are able to pick up a target through the mist, but that when used together with the TGP there are issues.
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I just watched your video and the handoff does not seem to want to work, even though you have a good LOS and good visibility.
Did you try using the FCR instead of the TGP to get a ground lock and then slew the Mav onto a target from the WPN page? If you could get a lock in that setting, it could indicate that the MAV sensors are able to pick up a target through the mist, but that when used together with the TGP there are issues.
This also does not work, the heads of the Mavericks do not see the target, they can see the ships on route while boresighting or just lock up but not the Shilkas at the target point, by the way, the near BMPs in the column are not lock up either
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Thank you fo the vid… I will watch it.
That said, to me, I always considered the employment of AGM-65 in such conditions to be a kind of heresy considering that it’s seeker is optical (and IR for the B D E versions … IR effeciency in cloud or fog or mist is bad.)
The “B” also was TV in visible light just as the “A” just got magnification feature. The “D” is the IR variant.
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Mavs refuse to lock through clouds, no matter how thin. The TGP can lock through much thicker clouds.
Campaign experience.
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Will it work to just fire the mav at what the tgp is locked on, provided of course good launch parameters. Can it then home in during flight and get a better lock as it gets closer?
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Will it work to just fire the mav at what the tgp is locked on, provided of course good launch parameters. Can it then home in during flight and get a better lock as it gets closer?
Nope. No lock + steady pointing cross => no guidance.
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Yeah, well, they also don’t see nearest big buildings in such conditions too until to a certain distance. I tried to get closer and after that they’re successful catch the building. With ground forces the same but i don’t want to be knocked down on that small range, it’s too risky so it’s not rational and not safe to use them in such conditions
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Will it work to just fire the mav at what the tgp is locked on, provided of course good launch parameters. Can it then home in during flight and get a better lock as it gets closer?
In practice I’ve seen the opposite happen … you get lock via a clear line of sight, but after firing, the missile arcs upward, passes through/near a cloud and loses track…
There’s no inertial guidance like on a HARM or JSOW … just the optical seeker head. It’s gimballed to stay pointing at the target – but its “keyhole” field of view is pretty tiny so it has to stay perfectly focused on that target, throughout the acceleration of the launch and climb while the rocket motor burns.
No idea about RL, but in the sim there’s no concept of “fly along this line of sight and guide onto the first target you acquire”.
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So U2 has been released and nothing changes about this problem
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and?
As said and you can see in the changelog the focus was stability.If you want to be sure that the issue is not neglected have you posted it in the bugtracker?
https://bmsbugs.blu3wolf.com/my_view_page.phpFrom a quick search I don’t see it there…
Thank you.
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and?
As said and you can see in the changelog the focus was stability.If you want to be sure that the issue is not neglected have you posted it in the bugtracker?
https://bmsbugs.blu3wolf.com/my_view_page.phpFrom a quick search I don’t see it there…
Thank you.
man, I have no idea how your bug tracker works and how to write about problems there, I wrote to the technical support on the forum to draw attention to this problem, that’s all