Ice’s Falcon BMS Profile Updated for BMS 4.37
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Tried all nights, and tried all what you have wrote, even in different order, but still no. I mainly use the 2 AP keys and combined console main battery switch to test, but they never worked. I’m using FR keyboard but it was well set in ENG as the non English keyboard as instructed …
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Tried all nights, and tried all what you have wrote, even in different order, but still no. I mainly use the 2 AP keys and combined console main battery switch to test, but they never worked. I’m using FR keyboard but it was well set in ENG as the non English keyboard as instructed …
So if you are sure to have the key files and everything setup correctly one thing that can stop BMS from receiving inputs from Helios is if BMS and Helios Control Center are running with different user rights. So if you are running BMS with administrative rights you must run Helios with admisitrative rights as well. If BMS is runnning under your standard user account Helios must as well
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So if you are sure to have the key files and everything setup correctly one thing that can stop BMS from receiving inputs from Helios is if BMS and Helios Control Center are running with different user rights. So if you are running BMS with administrative rights you must run Helios with admisitrative rights as well. If BMS is runnning under your standard user account Helios must as well
Just about to say that
Also check that all of these are correct:
And of course Falcon BMS must have focus whilst in 3D in order to receive keystrokes.
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Thx Oak and Link, I’ve done more testing, including user rights, Focus Assist, setting different main screens, changing monitor arrangements etc, but still no, I could never get both A/P switches nor main battery switch or oxygen green switch to react on my touchscreen. And even after I clicked with my mouse in the 3D cockpit, the switch on the touchscreen doesn’t move to reflect it’s real position.
I’m thinking if Helios is basically controlling BMS with keys, perhaps this key file is not complete? Should I try with the BMS Full Key file?
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Thx Oak and Link, I’ve done more testing, including user rights, Focus Assist, setting different main screens, changing monitor arrangements etc, but still no, I could never get both A/P switches nor main battery switch or oxygen green switch to react on my touchscreen. And even after I clicked with my mouse in the 3D cockpit, the switch on the touchscreen doesn’t move to reflect it’s real position.
I’m thinking if Helios is basically controlling BMS with keys, perhaps this key file is not complete? Should I try with the BMS Full Key file?
First, the basic keyfile included in the download is absolutely complete, the BMS Full keyfile definitely won’t work. Just to make sure download this copy and check that it is the same as the one you’re using.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/b8tjyzqxypf9m0n/BMS±+Ice’s+Helios+Profile.key/file
Most of the keyboard commands from the profile are one way only, so clicking in the 3D cockpit will not change switches or knobs in the profile.
I suspect you are having a keyboard problem, the main battery switch you are testing will send the following keys to BMS:
SimMainPowerMain 310 0 0x11 5 0 0 1 “ELEC: MAIN PWR Switch - MAIN”
SimMainPowerBatt 310 0 0x11 6 0 0 1 “ELEC: MAIN PWR Switch - BATT”
SimMainPowerOff 310 0 0x11 7 0 0 1 “ELEC: MAIN PWR Switch - OFF”Which are the following variations of “W”
Shift + Alt + W
Control + Alt + W
Shift + Control + Alt + WNow on an AZERTY keyboard that will send:
Shift + Alt + Z
Control + Alt + Z
Shift + Control + Alt + ZWhich of course won’t work.
So are you absolutely sure that this checkbox is ticked?
To test download and run this:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ftpgyao9t29sc0w/EventTester.exe/file
Then start the profile without BMS running and select the Main Batt switch in the profile. You should get variations of “W”.
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Sorry just finished a real flight to Beijing and back. I’m sure that tick is there and I ran the tester with the profile on, When I click on the touchscreen nothing happens on the tester. I can type on the keyboard and it was well a W right there. Very strange now…
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Sorry just finished a real flight to Beijing and back. I’m sure that tick is there and I ran the tester with the profile on, When I click on the touchscreen nothing happens on the tester. I can type on the keyboard and it was well a W right there. Very strange now…
Well I’m really out of ideas.
Every switch/knob etc. in the profile should produce an output on that event tester.
When you tap or click on the touchscreen switches/knobs etc. do they actually move?
All I can think is that the profile has lost it’s key bindings, can you send me, or post a link to, a copy of the “Ice’s Falcon BMS 4.35.hpf” profile file from the Helios\Profiles folder and I’ll have a look at it.
Clutching at straws now, which version of Helios are you running?
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All other switches move when I click on them from the touchscreen. Just not these A, Z, W, Q keys. And for these when I click on the touchscreen nothing happens, exactly like what the event tester is telling. It sure looks like a non US keyboard thing but I really don’t know where it went wrong now. I’m using the newest Helios x.1 and sure I’ll share my hpf tmrw. Thx for all your patience.
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As you are apperently on a non English windows have you added the English language pack to windows and activated US as additional keyboard otherwise the Helios QWERTY function is not working correctly
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All other switches move when I click on them from the touchscreen. Just not these A, Z, W, Q keys. And for these when I click on the touchscreen nothing happens, exactly like what the event tester is telling. It sure looks like a non US keyboard thing but I really don’t know where it went wrong now. I’m using the newest Helios x.1 and sure I’ll share my hpf tmrw. Thx for all your patience.
Definitely a non US keyboard thing. I suggest you go through the “Non-US Keyboard Guide - Windows 10” again and if you get it right then you can enable the “Always use QWERTY key codes” checkbox. If you can’t enable this checkbox then you’ve got it wrong.
Moving the English (United States) language to the top of the language list is the important step.
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Yes I can confirm I’m on a US Keyboard and I’ve actually tried all methods: exactly like that non US keyboard guide, with only ENG showing in the taskbar, or in FR while adding a US keyboard, non of them worked…. And yes I confirm English is number one on the list
It’s strange because when I click on the switch from the touchscreen there is nothing shown in the event tester. Not that A instead of Q or Z instead of W kind of stuffs but nothing, while I could physically type on my keyboard and it was all the correct keys shown in the tester.
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It’s strange because when I click on the switch from the touchscreen there is nothing shown in the event tester. Not that A instead of Q or Z instead of W kind of stuffs but nothing, while I could physically type on my keyboard and it was all the correct keys shown in the tester.
Strange!! As you say it should send A instead of Q and Z instead of W. So do any of the rest of the switches or knobs on the profile send anything at all to the event tester?
One last thing, can you confirm that the checkbox looks like this:
And NOT like this which is checked but DISABLED, there is a subtle difference:
If you’ve got the language settings correct then you should be able to freely check and uncheck this box.
It’s very picky about what constitutes a QWERTY keyboard, I’m on an English UK QWERTY keyboard and that checkbox is disabled, and therefore unchecked, but everything still works because I’ve avoided using any of the keys in the keyfile where there are differences between the English UK keyboard and the English US keyboard.
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Hello jacqueslee, I am French if you want I have a pretty good command of Helios and I would be happy to help you via discord.
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Hello jacqueslee, I am French if you want I have a pretty good command of Helios and I would be happy to help you via discord.
Good idea, if you get it sorted let me know what the problem was for future reference.
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https://www.mediafire.com/file/7w5t3os0bl09afp/Ice’s+Falcon+BMS+4.35.hpf/file
Here you are, this is the copy of my hpf. In the mean time I’ll do more testing to see how it goes. And yes I confirm I can physically tick or untick that box as I wish and it was not greyed out. And for your question above yes for the rest of control everything was normal and as intended when I click on the other parts of control on my touchscreen. It showed up in the tester and in Sim they worked as well.
And Ertiyu thank you very much! I don’t have Discord at the moment but I’ll set one up tonight. Tell me how can I add you I also have more questions regarding setting those additional viewports in DCS
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https://www.mediafire.com/file/7w5t3os0bl09afp/Ice’s+Falcon+BMS+4.35.hpf/file
Here you are, this is the copy of my hpf. In the mean time I’ll do more testing to see how it goes. And yes I confirm I can physically tick or untick that box as I wish and it was not greyed out. And for your question above yes for the rest of control everything was normal and as intended when I click on the other parts of control on my touchscreen. It showed up in the tester and in Sim they worked as well.
And Ertiyu thank you very much! I don’t have Discord at the moment but I’ll set one up tonight. Tell me how can I add you I also have more questions regarding setting those additional viewports in DCS
I’ve just tested that profile and it all works perfectly, main battery switch included. Generates W’s where it should. The fact that you can tick and untick that box means that the English US keyboard is set up correctly.
I’m sorry but I haven’t any more ideas, it’s obviously a non English US keyboard problem but I’ve no idea what it is. Perhaps ertiyu can help since he must also have the same keyboard setup.
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Ok copy ertiyu, data well received thx.
And yes it was english US. And I got really mad because profile in DCS also showing the same sympton. I physically changed the keyboard and it was still the same, but the landing gear horn button is well showing a A key in the event tester. I think I got something and it was not until I’m not using the touchscreen anymore and playing around with the mouse I find out a breakthrough: Holy ShXt it was working from the START and all I have to do is to DRAG that bloody switch…… AND IT FINALLY WORKED !!!
I have been poking the switch all along and never hold and drag it. I never thought it would be possible for such a gesture to make a difference but apparently this is how it was designed to be…
So yeah, finally, problem solved, all I have to do is just to drag that switch up and down from the center position and voila, what a journey !!! >>>>>
Thx for the great work guys!! I 'll start enjoying my pit and hopefully my lesson will be useful here :rofl:
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Ah! If I remember correctly all of the switches are set up to swipe in the direction you want them to move.
At least you finally got it sorted.
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Greetings “Team: Ice”-
Forgive the noob question, but how does the new release of Helios effect your 4.35-8 version?? Any new or changed features? Perhaps in relation to maps & mission data??
Cheers,
Jolly