Solved HMCS knob at ramp
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@amadeus75 Thanks for your reply and feedback.
Thatās exactly my problem. The tricky thing is that the on/off button still continue to work with UHF/VHF with the mouse cursor, even if the axis are sets, not for the HMCSā¦
Thatās really shame that āon/offā still continue to work with mouse for radios, but not for the HMCS. Maybe the mouse cursor send āincreaseā input for HMCS, and ON/Increase for the radio?I donāt have a software for this axis But i got my shortcut on 2nd layer for my Hotas, so iāll put it there as i use to. Iāll try it with the keystroke shortcut to put it āOnā instead of āIncreaseā.
Also i noticed a difference between UHF/VHF and HMCS axis : when iām at 0% of the physical axis, i just canāt ear any radio, like the radio were turned off, but for the HMCS, i still see itā¦ (if i start in taxi/take off/dogfight/instant action, ā¦), so 0% of the axis doesnāt mean to turn it off, but just the lower position before the off. Must be something relatedā¦
@LorikEolmin Actually, i see my knob turning when iām turning it physicaly. Just like the radio knobs. But it just donāt put on.
@oldtommyboy I tried on different block, especially on block50-52
I just got the problem since i set up my physical axis@MaxWaldorf exactly. Some countries in BMS got the money for the panel, but not for the helmet
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Youāre not alone, OP. I couldnāt get the HMCS knob to work while bound to an axis either.
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@fullnegi said in HMCS knob at ramp:
Also i noticed a difference between UHF/VHF and HMCS axis : when iām at 0% of the physical axis, i just canāt ear any radio, like the radio were turned off, but for the HMCS, i still see itā¦ (if i start in taxi/take off/dogfight/instant action, ā¦), so 0% of the axis doesnāt mean to turn it off, but just the lower position before the off. Must be something relatedā¦
I guess thatās just how it works.
HMCS brightness just does not go to zero.
If you donāt need it inflight, just hold DMS down for half a second, and you can toggle it on/off.Keep in mind that the real HMCS knob does not power on/off by pushing on it.
Beginning with OFF position, you start turnig it clockwise, you hear a āclickā and then you can turn it all the way up.
Frankly, I must admit, I had no clue that the radios have such an ON/OFF function as well
Live and learnIn any case, you can - of course - keep the axis.
Just add a little key combi for on/offā¦ I know itās hard to find a key that is NOT used yet, but not impossible -
@fullnegi If itās like you described and your axis binding isnāt turning on the HCMS even so the jet is equipped and you need a second button to turn it on /of here is a possible solution for the issue.
Use Joystick Gremlin and 2 Map to keyboard functions with both set the virual button activate at the beginning of your axis movement when axis is between 1,00 and 0,95 or 0,00 and 0,05 (depending where your start position is) . one with entering range from above one if entering range from below. You can then send the send keystrocks set for callbacks SimHmsOn SimHmsOffExample from a profile I use not for BMS another tank sim in order to turn a Xbox controller ministick to send keypresses at the end of the axis movements but this setup would apply to your situation
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@oakdesign Thanks for the tips ! That software seems to be really good to know !
@Amadeus75
I did had the mechanism of the real knob in my mind and knew this DMS ātrickāAs i understood thatās the same for Com1/com2/ils, int lightning, ded brightness, etc, etc, ā¦ also.
As in the 3D cockpit, you can also turn the radios On by clicking 1 time on the knob with your mouse, to start to turn it and simulate this āknob clickā. Even if you put an axis on it.Thatās why i didnāt get why these knobs behave differently from the HMCS.
When you put an axis on it, why this āfirst clickā with the mouse is still working for others and not the hmcs ?? As i understand, Increase callback āāintegrateāā the On callback for radios and not hmcs ??
Oversight from the dev team? ^^ā
Maybe, that can happen, thatās not a big deal. Just needed to understand and sort it out.Also, the HUD Sym donāt behave the same ! You donāt need this āclickā (callback or mouse) for turn it on, you can simply turn it on with your axisā¦ And i believe that you also have this click in the real one, isnāt it ?
This kind of knobs (click+axis) could be expensive and is a bit more complicate to integrate them in the pit. So as we had the DMS Down option, i though that just putting a simple axis for it would be enough in my cockpit and for my needs It is already when iām starting from taxi however.
I was used to set my CMS left (2nd layer) for turning on the HMCS and increase brightness, so iāll put that shortcut for the āhmcs onā and iāll keep you tuned
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@fullnegi
I see! Thanks for the info.
And you seem absolutely right. Per intuition, the āfirst clickā really should be ātriggerableā with the axis. -
@amadeus75 Thatās the case for the Hud Sym, but i think thatās the only oneā¦
I think this behavior is for the real-cockpit builder. Itās more simple to integrate a callback for the knob clicking, and then an axis for the knob. Thatās clever in my opinion. Thatās making the problem in a really simple and elegant solution.
And if you just have a āsimpleā knob, use your mouse for the first click then, thatās the same result and iām fine with it.But itās really weird the radios, hmcs, sym have 3 differents behavior ! my (verry) 2 cents
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@fullnegi BMS, the only forums where you can argue with -a very simple click- seriously
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@fullnegi said in HMCS knob at ramp:
I think this behavior is for the real-cockpit builder
Makes perfect sense.
Might be worth discussing if there should be a config checkbox if you want to choose a combined behavior or separate callbacks.
But for the time being, I am rather satisfied with a workaround. -
@amadeus75 said in HMCS knob at ramp:
Might be worth discussing if there should be a config checkbox if you want to choose a combined behavior or separate callbacks.
The dreaaaaaam for simple-cockpit maker
But making these checkbox for ALL the callbacks seems a pharaonic workout.@amadeus75 said in HMCS knob at ramp:
But for the time being, I am rather satisfied with a workaround.
Yes, thatās just for ONE knob one DX shortcut on my stick is not a big deal