Solved BMS Crashing upon launch using both launchers
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@Tumbler31 I’ve tried everything I can think of. I’ve changed sound devices from my USB headphones, to on-board sound, to USB 2.0 sound using the Reverb headphones. Crashes every time with the same error.
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@Wicked search for the error code and then find and try this?
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/directsound-driver-repair-code-error-88780078/24c2f364-3576-41a7-a632-d08fc8e1872f -
I don’t understand why this happens to some folks … but a couple times folks have reported intractable problems with BMS audio – especially USB audio devices, it seems.
I haven’t used this, but I’ve seen https://vb-audio.com/Voicemeeter recommended as a cure-all… it installs itself as a “virtual” audio device, which you can set as default for Windows. Then use its interface to route audio to whichever actual device you want.
(In theory, Windows itself should already be doing that. I know almost nothing about game-engine audio programming models, and DirectSound… just seems like most games and apps from last 10 years don’t have this problem, and obvs Windows is acting like a mixer, to combine audio from other processes while BMS is in flight … so I’m curious what the gap is.)
Maybe worth trying, before installing vb-meeter, using the Windows settings UI to bind BMS to use a specific audio device? Could it be that simple?
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@Tumbler31 So I just followed the directions and found a realtec driver needed to be updated along with several others. I did a Windows update which updated several items with the correct drivers. As soon as all was done, I rebooted then booted up Falcon and hit launch… SPLAT lol.
What sucks is everything was working beautifully about 4-5 days ago and then the crashes began out of the blue. Also, I’ve now uninstalled and reinstalled the sim at least four times, on two different mobo and cpu combos with the same issues.
I just wanna fly… is that too much to ask? I’ll even dance for it!
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@airtex2019 I just tried to associate Falcon with the headset I want to use. I opened the launcher and went to the volume mixer which is where you would make this change. Falcon doesn’t show up as an app. Even though it is open on my desktop. Windows Sounds, Mozilla, steamtours and Windows Mixed Reality show as apps that I can change but Falcon isn’t there.
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@Wicked oh yeah, dang, it’s a catch-22 isn’t it … apps don’t show up there unless they’re playing sound … and if BMS crashes on startup bc it can’t play sound … duh
sorry
there’s probably a registry key or smth, that that UI updates, but I don’t know where to look.
if I were you I suppose I’d try vb-meeter
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@airtex2019 Playing with VB Meeter now but it’s not working either. This sucks lol, oh well.
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@Wicked sorry about the deadend … I’m basically out of ideas. Is this Win10 or 11?
I do recall some other thread where someone had to physically unplug their VR headset, to get BMS to startup successfully.
I don’t remember if we ever got to the bottom of that, or what else they did to recover VR functionality… I’ll see if I can find it.
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@airtex2019 Your help is greatly appreciated. I’ll try disconnecting my HMD tomorrow and see if it gets me in.
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@airtex2019 I unplugged the reverb from my computer, (both DP and USB C) and tried to fire up Falcon. Again, no joy. I’m at a loss as to why it worked for months and then one day out of the blue it stopped. The only thing I can figure as the cause is maybe a windows update.
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I have uninstalled Falcon again. The last time I uninstalled it I deleted the executable and downloaded a new one. Upon Reinstalling and opening the launcher I noticed the debug box was hi-lighted. I don’t remember that option being enabled by default which means there is a file somewhere on my computer loading previous settings on my new installation. Does anyone know where that file may be so I can delete it?
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I finally found the issue. I was pretty sure whatever the problem was had to do with recent drivers or a windows update. So in Windows update I looked for he last installed item before I posted here about the issue. What I’m found was a program called Nahimic Media which was part of some Asus/Realtek drivers I grabbed from their site.
Turns out, this software is basically a virus and replicates itself in other programs and ends up causing major issues including the issue I was having in BMS, namely “cannot create dsound”.
I tried disabling it in services but no joy. I ended up having to reformat the the computer and start from scratch. As of today I’m flying Falcon again. From my understanding Nahimic is included in a lot of official drivers so beware.
Thanks for all the help!
Reddit article about Nahimic… https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/ilys2o/nahimic_is_literal_malware_no_matter_how_you/ -