Viper MIP w/ MFD Displays
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@drillerman52 the cheaper ones are only the bezel, the surrounding part with the bottons. The expensive ones are the ones with the display.
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Oh right. Is it me or it is not that clear on their website?
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@drillerman52 said in Viper MIP w/ MFD Displays:
Oh right. Is it me or it is not that clear on their website?
Probably me!I agree, it isn’t clear.
“MFD” is the bezel only with the buttons, while the actual displays are “USB3.0 Instrument Display” and are a seperate component.
If you’re just buying the MFDs and displays, you need to buy them seperately, but everything is in the pack to make them a complete unit.
I really like how they did this. You remove 4 screws (you need a torx screwdriver) from the bezels and 4 from the LCDs, and then using longer screws provided, you screw the two together so the MFD is held firmly in place over the LCD. You then put the support brackets on the back of the LCD.
The displays are made by WinWing, and when booting up show the WinWing logo.
I also bought a powered USB 3.2 hub (connected to a USB C port) with the hub itself connected to a 75W PSU. The units seem to work fine like this, and I only require one USB port on my computer (the Viper MIP requires 5 USB ports - 1 for each MFD, 1 for each display, and 1 for the ICP/DED).
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I don’t know if it is the case if you buy them separately, but I have bought 2 MFDs with the displays as package and the allen keys needed to remove the 4 bolts from each component were included, along with the thicker allen key for the mount and a key to hold the nut steady. On the downside, now I have a lot of tools that I don’t need. And I can’t stress enough that you need a powered hub, as @Tiger-0 has mentioned.
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@drillerman52 said in Viper MIP w/ MFD Displays:
Oh right. Is it me or it is not that clear on their website?
Probably me!the VR suffix should imply that there are no monitors; but in reality it is not so clear.
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@drillerman52 said in Viper MIP w/ MFD Displays:
Oh right. Is it me or it is not that clear on their website?
Probably me!Nah, it’s them. The struggle with (against?) English language is real!
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The Viper MFD Displays are arriving today. I see directions for setting them up in DCS, but where are the directions for setting them up in BMS?
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@Scotters it is very easy to set them up. Just run simapp and follow the instructions. Make sure to designate the BMS folder path in settings.
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@skippermike
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Hi TigerO,
I have a question for you. How many usbs connections are needed to work the mfd and the usb display?
From looking at the manual, three appear to be needed. Is this correct?
Regards
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@drillerman52 you need one usb for the MFD bezel and one for the display, if your hub has enough power. I also use a usb c to usb c cable that I supply extra power to the display from a charger, because in my case the hubs seem to be a little bit on the limit. This extra usb c to usb c is what you see in the manual as a third cable.
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@skippermike
Thanks for the reply. Do both USBs plug into the pc? Or one into power and one into pc?I have a powered usb hub BTW
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@drillerman52 the display must be a USB 3. For the MFD bezel I am not sure if a USB 2 is enough. I use a lot of USBs (4 for my 2 MFDs and one each for the ICP, stick, throttle, tracking camera etc), so I use 2 powered USB hubs plugged to the 2 USB 3 ports on my PC. But in my case, it seemed that the power from the hubs was not sufficient, because sometimes the displays would turn on and off randomly. So, I got me a USB C charger with 2 outputs of 65 watts each, and I connected it them to the USB C plug that the display has for extra power (it also has a 12V input, if you are interested). I don’t know if this setup is an overkill, but I had no issues since. Maybe the power of your hub is enough for your rig and you don’t need the extra cable.
So to make it more clear. The MFD bezel and the USB 3 of the display must be connected to the PC, directly or via a powered hub. If the power that the display gets is not enough, you can give it an extra boost, either via the 5V USB C, that has to be connected to somewhere that powers it, or the 12V input.
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@skippermike
Hi, thanks for the reply.Will have a go this week based on your instructions. Didn’t realise they needed 2/3 usb’s.
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@drillerman52 yes, that option would be optimal for our case. I guess the idea is that the MFDs can be used as standalone, for those that want to use them in a VR rig.
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I got mine a couple weeks ago. The ICP is great with DED above it, and the MFD’s are awesome. Very good quality and easy to set up. Comes with a lot of bench stock so you can improvise your install. If you have bad eyes and struggle seeing the MFD info, these are for you. Very easy to setup with the software.
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Hi, how did you connect them to your Pc. Were you using a powered hub?
Also, if you are, do use the 5V or 12V
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@drillerman52 I got a 3.2 powered USB HUB. It came with a 5V power plug. Powered up both MFD’s and the ICP with no problem. You have to make sure it’s USB 3.0. So make sure you have enough for 5 connections at least. I went with an 8 port.
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Ok thanks will give that a go!
Just to clarify, you’re not putting mains power into the display?
You have connected the displays and bezels to the usb 3 powered hub which is 5V
Is that correct?
Sorry to be a bit dense.
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@drillerman52 Yes, the displays are USB powered and connected to the USB HUB. One thing I need to mention. If you are using an NVIDIA Graphics Card for your main display, the two MFD Displays will not show up in the NVIDIA Control Panel. You have to configure them in the Windows Settings/Display Properties.