Hud-projection mod
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ok guys, now i am tumbleweed…what is currently the recommended mod if one would ask to have his HUD as realistic as possible in reference to the blk 50/52 's? Currently i use CrazyTom’s mod.
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… hmmm it depends on how you perceive ‘as realistic as possible’
you should add the squadron you’d like to fly with, because some blk 50/52’s make use of this violet teint, not all.
I’d say: try both versions: FatCap and mine.
For your info: the version CrazyTom supplied is one of my versions. I made a custom version for him, with a gold-color overlay over the canopy, with different scratches. He then adjusted some colorteints a bit more pronounced to his liking (I believe he put more ‘blueish’ in it)
Regards,
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Fresh from the oven I believe… first seconds I believe will be very Enlightening and I don’t thing u would want more zoom…
Also compared to this I believe FanOfBMS432 is a winner here…
Watch also at 4:27… I can clearly see FanOfBMS432 signature on the right bottom corner of the HUD… :lol:
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@ALL
Because of requests to develop this one in a more neutral color setup, here are some pics of this mod.
If you like them, let me know: I’ll give the download link for this one.
Regards,
Fan
**EDIT: OK, WHY NOT JUST RIGHT AWAY THE DOWNLOAD LINK, SO HERE IT IS
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have hud glass and canopy glass reflection reworked,nice.
and where is 3993.dds?use default one?
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Yes m8, you’d best use the 3993.dds file in the first post of this thread. It’s still the best there is imho
Regards,
Fan -
Great work mate!, working nice
Regards
Nyko -
as I see it it’s unrealistic… cause in the real one the colors are more vivid… In this version u barely notice the purple difference if any is there…
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I also prefer one of the offsprings of your earlier work, Mark.
In comparison, the less vivid colours, like Arty named them, give a less strong green on the HUD fonts as well.
But yes, there is a colour distinction.
I’m quite sure for the HAF the colours are stronger, like shown many times in this forum thread.
And for the other versions, the colour is wrong.I understand you made this mod mainly for those gents who did not like the choice of your previous mods.
IMHO the best released version was that from late 2011. I called it FanofBMS432 version 4 in my collection hehe.Also for my taste the custom reflections of the IT version are too weak. The BMS default are ugly, but at least present.
What I do like is the HUD upper area.
Don’t get me wrong, it is once more a masterpiece in its own way, but IMHO for a final version you should stick to your own ideas.
Of course the majority will say this is the better one. Who cares, the informed artist decides.Argh, I promised myself not to post again here lol.
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The point of this version is to get is almost glass-neutral like, with some shading/imprints and a faint shadow of the green circle. So, not the purple/violet one, that one is still in the first post download available.
So, true no purple in this one m8
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@CT,
you addressed it right! see my comments to Arty above. About the imprints: not sure, I took the version I supplied you. But, I must say, flying with this one is actually likable, hehe, so it’s going to be my stepup for the nextgen - in that case colored - HUD projection mod.
Just thought I’d share this version with you all, so if those who like a different HUD with imprints, but without the violet, also have a quite well version.
… and nice to see you ~round posting here m8!! 8-)
I also prefer one of the offsprings of your earlier work, Mark.
In comparison, the less vivid colours, like Arty named them, give a less strong green on the HUD fonts as well.
But yes, there is a colour distinction.
I’m quite sure for the HAF the colours are stronger, like shown many times in this forum thread.
And for the other versions, the colour is wrong.I understand you made this mod mainly for those gents who did not like the choice of your previous mods.
IMHO the best released version was that from late 2011. I called it FanofBMS432 version 4 in my collection hehe.Also for my taste the custom reflections of the IT version are too weak. The BMS default are ugly, but at least present.
What I do like is the HUD upper area.
Don’t get me wrong, it is once more a masterpiece in its own way, but IMHO for a final version you should stick to your own ideas.
Of course the majority will say this is the better one. Who cares, the informed artist decides.Argh, I promised myself not to post again here lol.
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IMHO the latest version is excellent for simulating models with a fairly clear HUD. I was one of the guys who asked Fan to make this version for IT because that’s what the IAF uses. There are many pictures of such a clear HUD (see my post #201 ). IMHO it shouldn’t much of an issue of a personal taste but just the way it looks from the pilot’s POV (we asked pilots), like most other things in BMS. Of course different countries / blocks use different glass so it depends what you’re trying to simulate exactly. As for the violet coloring I suspect even in the models which use it it’s not so evident from the pilot’s POV, such coated glass can look different from different angles. Similar thing happens on DSLR camera lenses or sunglasses. So it’s best to go ahead and ask people who work with these systems because pictures can be misleading if they are not taken directly from the pilot’s POV.
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IMHO the latest version is excellent for simulating models with a fairly clear HUD. I was one of the guys who asked Fan to make this version for IT because that’s what the IAF uses. There are many pictures of such a clear HUD (see my post #201 ). IMHO it shouldn’t much of an issue of a personal taste but just the way it looks from the pilot’s POV (we asked pilots), like most other things in BMS. Of course different countries / blocks use different glass so it depends what you’re trying to simulate exactly. As for the violet coloring I suspect even in the models which use it it’s not so evident from the pilot’s POV, such coated glass can look different from different angles. Similar thing happens on DSLR camera lenses or sunglasses. So it’s best to go ahead and ask people who work with these systems because pictures can be misleading if they are not taken directly from the pilot’s POV.
Echo7 your #201 post photo is exactly same with HAF… have in mind lens settings of the photo taken and light conditions, color filters, HUD on HUD off… As I see it looks exactly the same as HAF. The purple tint is obvious in the photo u posted…
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Arty if you’re talking about the first photo in post #201 (the one quoted) that’s something DJ posted, look below that on the pictures I submitted. I don’t see violet tint in any of them.
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Arty if you’re talking about the first photo in post #201 (the one quoted) that’s something DJ posted, look below that on the pictures I submitted. I don’t see violet tint in any of them.
All of them have it…
The small ones are off way low resolution and very bad focus and lighting…
If u want take them in photoshop and compare a color outside the hud and inside the hud then u will see the difference in numbers… as of colors in my eyes - monitor settings it’s obvious it’s there. -
AFAIK I’m not color blind… To my eyes there is no violet tint… only darker picture. And the first and last pictures are not low res.
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I dont see any violet tint in any of those pics.
And if you refere to the color diff in the hud and outside the hud, then there is a tiny diff, cause of the coating on the hudglass. -
Don’t listen to the haters and purists Mark It’s totally great.
(just kidding guys)
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only darker picture. And the first and last pictures are not low res.
U said it only darker… what black trinitron? it’s the purple tint, it just doesn’t show in the pics. Have u seen it with your eyes?
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Arty, no I haven’t tested it with my own eyes yet…, actually last time I was around an F-16 I forgot to do so (had plenty of other things to check ), which is why before deciding on a mod for IT we consulted with pilots… And the fact the picture is darker through the HUD doesn’t mean it’s because of a violet coating which couldn’t t be seen the moment the picture was taken. The whole point is how it looks from the pilot’s POV, and I tried to explain the coated glass looks different from different angles. Many pictures and videos in this thread are not from the pilot’s POV which makes them possibly less accurate and many of them are low res too but people claim that because the HUD looks purple in them that’s how it should be in BMS. After saying that, I still don’t claim that a HUD system where the combiner appears purple to pilot doesn’t exist at all, only that one should be careful with the source material.
What I’m saying is that there is a HUD system without color cast (from the pilot’s POV), only with some darkening of the outside image. It’s not the only option but it is an option. The first picture is my post is directly from the pilot’s POV, in flight with HUD on, high res, in good lighting, and there is no purple tint. And most importantly we have such feedback from people who operate these systems. That’s all we need for IT, and why I asked Fan to create such mod. For other theaters and or F-16 variants things may be different.