Custom modded folder for Aegean Theater
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Wil also try what i say in #70 to RedTiger and post the results…
Hi Manos1981
You gived me an explanation for the known issue at program exit.
For the frequencies I made what Nikos prescripted and it’s ok now!
As Cobra00 said “Turn Set by HQ on”,I turned on,but at Limnos I’ve no missions start and a similar
problem at Nea Anchialos.I’m sure that it’s not the Objects folder from Tom Catz since I’ve no problems
like those at others base or others theaters (So I’m pratically sure …) I’m going to test in my second
installation of BMS where the Objects folders are originals (why this ? To have two differents cockpits
and canopy reflexions and differents objects in general).I report the result tomorrow -
Hi Manos1981
You gived me an explanation for the known issue at program exit.
For the frequencies I made what Nikos prescripted and it’s ok now!
As Cobra00 said “Turn Set by HQ on”,I turned on,but at Limnos I’ve no missions start and a similar
problem at Nea Anchialos.I’m sure that it’s not the Objects folder from Tom Catz since I’ve no problems
like those at others base or others theaters (So I’m pratically sure …) I’m going to test in my second
installation of BMS where the Objects folders are originals (why this ? To have two differents cockpits
and canopy reflexions and differents objects in general).I report the result tomorrowI would love to have this prescription also Anyway i will try again with the “set by HQ on” to see… Untill now both new and the old campaign i started with this option off and the sliders moved down almost at the middle… I think it needs thiss set to OFF in the first screen that you get. I didnt do the whole “dance” that cobra says. Only in the first screen… Will test anyway and post soon
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As you can see its ok! Therefore i would say again i havent installed th whole folder yet (modded) its the original Aegean (with 1.2 Hotfix) the only modification it haves is the JanHas 3d models! (Jan they rock!!! Bravo for your work) By the way i have 2 different installations of Aegean and 3 of Balkans! lol all for modifications i like to do and experiment with the objects and always in my external drive a Backup of the original data folder before the mods also if you see in my attachments the HQ option is on… and still produces missions
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As you can see its ok! Therefore i would say again i havent installed th whole folder yet (modded) its the original Aegean (with 1.2 Hotfix) the only modification it haves is the JanHas 3d models! (Jan they rock!!! Bravo for your work) By the way i have 2 different installations of Aegean and 3 of Balkans! lol all for modifications i like to do and experiment with the objects and always in my external drive a Backup of the original data folder before the mods also if you see in my attachments the HQ option is on… and still produces missions
Ok Manos1981,I’ve the sames screens than yours! But when i start effectively a mission from Limnos
i don’t drop into the cockpit and after +/- 30sec appear the debriefing sceen where all pilots are “Average”
and “Non ordonance” and up of the screen we can read: “Mission still in progress”
I tried 5 or 6 missions from Limnos with the same issue.Note: in my last post i said that the same thing occured at Nea Anchialos but i’m wrong (My memory is not so good
as the computer one!) it was the wrong radio frequency but corrected now.Finally, except the problem at Limnos, all run fine! You know i experienced the same thing before with another
theater (i don’t remember whitch one) but very very rarely. I though that perhaps it’s due to the motor of campain
when it manage the general planing of all missions at a time gived but i know nothing in the programmation of
campain .By the way I’ll take a look at Janhas 3D Models to see what it is.
Now too much words enough it’s time to fly! -
Finally i found the solution:
the 2 fields you given before Manos1981 when you said “nobody test it ?” are the origin of my problems!
I’ve introduced them into Campain\Aegean. (Replace of course)
Now i reinstalled only the folder Campain from Aegean Wars and into Campain\Aegean the field given by
Cloud9 : Save0.Tri. Always with the folder Objects from graphic improvement in Terrdata of Tom Catz
(though he made it for Korea!) and now all run fine even at Limnos. What I don’t understand is why Cloud9 said “It’s not perfect but it’s stop the CTD” -
Finally i found the solution:
the 2 fields you given before Manos1981 when you said “nobody test it ?” are the origin of my problems!
I’ve introduced them into Campain\Aegean. (Replace of course)
Now i reinstalled only the folder Campain from Aegean Wars and into Campain\Aegean the field given by
Cloud9 : Save0.Tri. Always with the folder Objects from graphic improvement in Terrdata of Tom Catz
(though he made it for Korea!) and now all run fine even at Limnos. What I don’t understand is why Cloud9 said “It’s not perfect but it’s stop the CTD”I don’t get it eather… I think that in the file i provided, the 2 files inside the rar is the .tri file from cloud… Strange… I will double check it and see what i can do… You have the save0.cam from my file right? As i said i just changed OOB the .tri file is the Cloud’s. In another person that i gave the files he told me that all runs smooth… Anyway still working on it and will post if i have a final campaign file. In my machine though from day one and after the file Provided by cloud its ok. Try now (back up the original files from the folder offcourse) ,If i didnt get it wrong, to put just my Save0.Cam in the campaign folder and please post the results! Thanks for your time and efforts on trying! I appreciate it very much
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And i might be wrong…. Probably the files in my Campaign folder is from “aegean Wars”… So the whole save of the campaign is worked in “Aegean Wars”… might be my mistake on mention the opposite…
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The Save0.tri file MUST be used with the Save0.cam file that is from Aegean Wars.
C9
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@Cloud:
The Save0.tri file MUST be used with the Save0.cam file that is from Aegean Wars.
C9
I know i edited the OOB in the Original Save0.cam nothing more nothing less….
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I know i edited the OOB in the Original Save0.cam nothing more nothing less….
Hello
To proceed by order:
It’s the Campain folder from Aegean Wars that I replaced (to be sure having the original one before further change)
After I only replaced the save0.tri by the Cloud9 one (given in page 5) but it’s true now I lost the Creta bases
(Souda,Iraklion,Kasteli,…not plaisant it’s very beautiful ! I visited when i went to NAMFI in 1984)
So, now I’m going to test in this situation YOUR save0.cam .If something goes wrong (crash during Aegean theater
utilisation OR AFTER a theater change and back in Aegean theater) perhaps your save0.cam must be improve.
In all case I also appreciate the work of others people because I know nothing about developpement
and the free time has a cost for everybody.
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Well,well,well,
First I verify that if I try to jump into a mission in air base with status 0, I never arrive in cockpit but in the
screen of debriefing with “mission still in progress” and mention “average” for all pilots in mission !!
It so obvious… Probably an inattention from my part for this matter. Yes after +/- 10:00am day 1 Limnos is distroyed
for some hoursNow the result of my new test:
I fly a mission,then make 3 save of campain with 1 minute interval,exit campain,delete the first save,and when I try to delete the second ,“bardaf” BMS crash! Conclusion: PROBLEM WITH save0.cam it’s an evidence!
So,I replace the original save0.cam, open BMS in Aegean theater, click on a previous save (result of your save0.cam)
I see the map with the air bases in Creta,try to open and of course BMS crash. I delete all previous save
with your field ,initiate a new campain, and no problem yet. Second evidenceI hope this will help you Manos1981
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So it works? i didn’t understeand quite good the last message of yours. Anyway it still needs work to be done… But i don’t have a lot of time free now… but will do… And as for JanHas : http://www.janhas.net/index.html <–- click here and then in “BMS” you will need editing though of the objects database with Lodeditor (i know its not the easiest way) and for that PArt you can ask Arty to give you a link with a tutorial…
Cheers!
Ps. Yes indeed until 10 Limnos is bombardied so no flights programmed in the first day and if you not interecept anemy boogies everytime the HQ say it is very easy to happen for example in N.Ancialos -
How to you suggest to increase the intercept missions in order to avoid shutdown of major HAF airbases?
Raising bar in Campaign Priorities Defensive Counter Air and “Targets” - Aircraft will bring any effect or there is another way?
ATO seems to keep insisting generate mostly SEAD missions or suicide strike mission deep inside enemy territory… Need to change campaign parameters to more defensive counter air missions -
So it works? i didn’t understeand quite good the last message of yours. Anyway it still needs work to be done… But i don’t have a lot of time free now… but will do… And as for JanHas : http://www.janhas.net/index.html <–- click here and then in “BMS” you will need editing though of the objects database with Lodeditor (i know its not the easiest way) and for that PArt you can ask Arty to give you a link with a tutorial…
Cheers!Ps. Yes indeed until 10 Limnos is bombardied so no flights programmed in the first day and if you not interecept anemy boogies everytime the HQ say it is very easy to happen for example in N.Ancialos
First thanks for the JanHas link
With some words
with your save0.cam : I’ve BMS crash when closing program at each time,when I tried to delete a “saved day” in campain.As you said, it still need work,we are waiting with patience.Courage! -
Manos1981,
I’ve tried your edit (Save0.cam), and can comfirm that that BMS crashed when trying to exit. Also there were too many active units, the map was full of activity, there were flight packages like swarm of bees all over the map. I’ve seen that you changed different F-16 blocks in some Air Bases, but that way there was issue of flying TuAF F-16 block 50 from Greek Air Bases (Limnos for example).
There was Greek Fantoms active so that was a good thing, that was missing@ Cloud9 - I’ve sent you a personal message some time ago, looking forward for your reply
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@ Cobra00:Well indeed i’ve put some Combat Groups as well, that might not needed me too i have the crash every time on exit. If i use realistic OOB (wich is not difficult to do) it reduce the airbases to 7 for greek Airforce and 8 for Turkey. I can do that. Also about the skins yeah i have noticed that as well the first time this need a editing in Camo.cfg or reduce the 3d models skin packs or change completely (as i done) the objects and be very presice what to use and where ( as i said i’ve installed JanHas Models) but cannot use for both countries Block50’s for example) this is another work need to be done but needs alot of time free wich i dont have right now.
@Apollo11: Well after 1 or maybe less than one day (i cannot remember well) the engine starts to reduce the SEAD or Strike missions and give more A-A ones and remember you have M2000 wich are taking the A/A role, i dont really know how that can be fixed. I have in my priorities to fix the Ground units issue to go on defensive and go to Central Greece and leave Alexandroupolis and Orestias completely uncovered and it seems that after day 4 or 5 they go on offensive this leads me to 2 conclussions eather the theater objectives need editing (Thanks Arty) as for the fuel and stuff needed to capture them or the tri file (wich i need a lot of reading to do so but thanks Cloud9 you started the fire in me to create something ) therefore after a long conversation with Arty the Theater is builded wrong and with wrong links or in some objectives links doesnt exist at all. As for the sliders in the satrt of campaign i dont think they can be in use much. If you see the PAK map (in the same screen) its completely wrong wich needs wditing also… So as i said it needs a lot of time… and i’m taking small steps cause i dont have much. First step is to fix theater’s issues with Monster’s terrain tool,then use tacedit or Mission commander to fix issues with the units, probably both programs are gonna be needed. I might edit objects as well and i can try (much later though) to give you as Cobra did a complete Aegean Data Folder with Janhas Models preinstalled and some other goodies that i have installed (varius 3d models that i doenloaded from here like ships and ground vehicles). Believe me i will try my best and i might need some (and i will be happy to use) help from anyone here haves a thought or a sollution to get this theater one step further by creating a Awesome campaign for both sides and why not putting some other airforce as well like Bulgaria for example. Cobra00 and Cloud9 every help you got i’m all ears. And every other person want feel free to suggest your sollutions or anything.
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@Apollo11: It seems that the inercept missions is something that triggered when a enemy aircraft is a certain radius of the base then you get a red screen telling you to interept the enemy and the sound “alert the crews to their aircraft scrample,scrample” sounds… if you want to intercept them you just click “intercept” button if you choose to click cancel then your base is ruined
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Manos1981,
I’ve tried your edit (Save0.cam), and can comfirm that that BMS crashed when trying to exit.
@ Cloud9 - I’ve sent you a personal message some time ago, looking forward for your reply
The original Aegean Wars Save0.cam also CTD’s on exit, not just Manos1981’s. I’m trying to figure that out.
I’ve been busy with RL, work etc. I’ll get back to you when I get some time.
C9