AI in cahoots with the ATO
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My fav campaign KTO Iron Fortress. You can see in force levels I have a lot more available aircraft than the DPRK yet I have 3 flights up in the air and absolutely none from 3-F16-40, 2-F18C, 1-F18E and 1-F18F leaving me defenseless to scores of red aircraft. I made no change to ATO settings since campaign start early this morning Barcap slider half way and small amount of CAS. No flights are even scheduled(planning) for those squadrons which are basically the entire fighter force I have in SK except one F16-50 which flew once and one F4 ROK. This is not working right.
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Interesting. Have you tried pushing the bars all the way to the right in the pic 3,4 and 5?
They seem a bit skewered to the left.
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Falcon4 should still normalize them, but perhaps there is some limitation to it?
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when we were doing campaign work at Free Falcon we saw that sliders about half way or less provided the best results. Now of course the ATO may task multiple flights as I have 200 aircraft available yet right now I have one flight up in the air with awacs and tankers flying around unescorted. Updated ATO and map:
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now over an hour later no flights tasked at all allowing the reds to shut down Kunsan and about to hit Pusan.
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other than Kunsan my remaining runways are open including Kimhae 100%(14-F18E + 14-F18F) and Pohang 100%(12-F16-40 air to air + 16-F4ESK). You think that barcap, the primary slider I want, should go all the way to the right?
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Why don’t you try it? Should be checked faster than attaching these screenshots.
It has been claimed that the UI balances user sliders, but perhaps it makes sense to try using ‘stronger’ values for testing. Perhaps they have some scaling problem, or integer division clipping. -
moved barcap slider all the way to max at 2244. Here is ATO just over 2 hours later tasking only 2 F18E barcaps and one F4ESK escort for awacs. That means 2 Canadian F18C with 10+ aircraft each, 1 full strength F18F and 2 F16-40 are sitting it out for almost 4 hours now.
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Can be many reasons … no a/c available with enough Action Range related to mission request, could be incompatible mission request vs available a/c and/or munitions, could be threat level canceling mission requests or no appropriate a/c role vs mission type requested … could be no more fuel available on airbase, could be runway damaged/destroyed, could be a bad mix of slider set giving unfortunate results etc … I do not know (?)
… maybe it is time for you to go manual tasking.
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unless the aircraft are mission specific non-barcap types they should be available with 6 squadrons available and still minimal taskings for the one priority now many hours later. I have seen campaigns get porked before of course. 5 hours now barcap slider full on with 7 aircraft squadrons that are normally tasked for barcaps in bms though I have seen A10 tasked for intercept missions only in BMS:
and here is squadron stats:
maybe I am micromanaging this yet its not making sense to me
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No need to manual tasking… It’s bad ato code.
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There are some bug (or non-perfect design) into ATM code. Especially is you consider that reducing some sliders to zero can break all the mission generation … some a/c a poorly set and code not able to manage some a/c specificities (A-10 is an example) …
Some changes to expect in the future. Certainly not 100% fix … but should be better … if we are lucky: way better.
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thank you for your responses one and all and I look forward to future efforts.
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setting the barcap slider all the way to the right with all other priority settings the same worked; campaign progressing well and making sense:
This provided this Falconer very tight control of PAK’s mission types and target types allowing me to slow then stop the red horde’s ground advance while putting up significant numbers of fighters to stop the red air attack from overwhelming my defenses. Thank you.
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Anyway … there is room for improvement which would allow a better and more relevant control (orientation) of ATO.
Need time … maybe one day (?)
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Cool; is that one earth day or one Venus day?
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10 hours by Jove…
Venus is 243 days
more useless facts I know I know
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