Mirage 2000-5 racks error
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There is a problem since ages with racks of the Mirage 2000-5 versions, still not fixed to any versions of bms or any current theaters. I have noticed this when I was modding my setup a couple of years ago and fixed this correctly to my mod, and although I have pass this issue info to some ppl for future fixing, nothing has been done up to now, thus this post addressing the issue in detail. It might be minor, maybe no one else noticed this, but it still IS an issue, so I think it has to be fixed in future updates. It is about 10 minutes of work actually.
In real, the Mica missiles are loaded in their dedicated pylons-racks. There are 3 types of these racks: 1 common rack for the aft (rear) 2 positions, interchangeable (meaning the rack can be attached to either left or right position; ) and 2 DIFFERENT racks for the fwd positions, each strictly dedicated to the left and right position, NOT interchangeable due to structural design of the plane and rack itself.
Current bms 3D database has all racks added correctly (actually it was like this since the beginning; ) but wrong and not detailed modelling introduced this error in design riding today from the past.
Corresponding racks are (check with Lode Editor):
CT 3516 - Mica forward left rack
CT 3517 - Mica forward right rack
CT 3518 - Mica aft rack, common for left and rightThe default Mirage 2000-5 models capable of carrying Mica’s thus these racks, wrongly use the same rack in the fwd positions. The bmsrack file has only one record for the fwd position (m2k-Mica-fwd) for rackct 3516. This rackct is for the left position, and it is wrongly used for the right position too. Verify this by also looking the aircraft Hardpoints through F4Browse or BMS Editor.
The solution implemented to my mod and fixed the issue is to create another record in bmsrack for the forward right position rack, add it to model Hardpoints through F4Browse or BMS Editor, and also state this to model FM .dat file in SIM folder.
For reference, current weapon Hardpoints stated in the default mirage2k5.dat file (C:\Falcon BMS 4.32\Data\Sim\ACDATA\mirage2k5.dat) are pasted below, with bold are the erroneous ones:
hardpoint1Grp 0
hardpoint2Grp m2k-wingtip
hardpoint3Grp m2k-winginner-L
hardpoint4Grp m2k-fuseaft
hardpoint5Grp m2k-fusefwd
hardpoint6Grp m2k-center
hardpoint7Grp m2k-fusefwd
hardpoint8Grp m2k-fuseaft
hardpoint9Grp m2k-winginner-R
hardpoint10Grp m2k-wingtip
hardpoint11Grp 0
hardpoint12Grp 0
hardpoint13Grp 0
hardpoint14Grp 0
hardpoint15Grp 0
hardpoint16Grp 0Fixed statements (as from my mod, but different naming logic can be used) that should be implemented to all corresponding Mirage 2000-5 FM .dat files (to the models capable of curing the Mica: -5’s, including the two-seaters. If I am not wrong the D & N versions do not carry this missile so their FM’s are not affected and should not be touched). With bold are the new changes at this file:
hardpoint1Grp 0
hardpoint2Grp m2k-wingtip
hardpoint3Grp m2k-winginner
hardpoint4Grp m2k-fuseaft
hardpoint5Grp m2k-fusefwd-L
hardpoint6Grp m2k-center
hardpoint7Grp m2k-fusefwd-R
hardpoint8Grp m2k-fuseaft
hardpoint9Grp m2k-winginner
hardpoint10Grp m2k-wingtip
hardpoint11Grp 0
hardpoint12Grp 0
hardpoint13Grp 0
hardpoint14Grp 0
hardpoint15Grp 0
hardpoint16Grp 0I have prepared the below shots to better detail the issue.
Front view of the -5 with Mica’s on fwd stations, the model and shot is from EMF but it is similar in default bms.
CT 3516 & 3517 records in Lode Editor
CT 3516 & 3517 Lode Editor viewer side by side, you can clearly see and understand the different structural angle build in each rack depending the position.
bmsrack statements, default bms (similar on emf as tested)
bmsrack statements as implemented to my mod setup
F4Browse M2K-5 Hardpoints as implemented to my mod setup
Hardpoints from default bms M2K-5, you see the error on the Mica racks
Correct Hardpoints as implemented to my mod setup
acdata, default bms
acdata, corrected as implemented to my mod setup
Pylons added to Mirage weaponry as implemented to my mod setup, you can see that the fwd racks are now in different lines
M2k on my mod with all pylons added as normal stores
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Also 2 animated gif, you can see the old vs the new correct pylon on fwd right position.
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Thx. I will try to implement.
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Nice post. Hope 4.33 considers it, because it comes with simdata edits. Not really a showstopper for the moment though.
Thanks
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If I am not wrong the D & N versions do not carry this missile so their FM’s are not affected and should not be touched)
You’re right, neither does the C.
Great edit ! We’re trying ourselves to enhance the 2K as best as we can, and it’s nice to see people involved in it.
By the way, MICAs are not loaded on the heavy wing stations (where the RPL-541/2 & 501/2 are). Not in the French -5Fs anyways, don’t know about the Hellenic -5 Mk.2. -
In HAF birds you can load them everywhere lol