Curiosity Poll - How much did you spent for HOTAS (stick and thruttle)
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…it ain’t natural.
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I can 100% subscribe that. If you fly in RL, any kind of head tracking is completely strange. I am going for VR….
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I can 100% subscribe that. If you fly in RL, any kind of head tracking is completely strange. I am going for VR….
But as motor vehicle drivers, we feel the same difference too surely? It still doesn’t bother me, and it’s a hell of a lot better than a POV hat, or forking out £600 for VR that is currently still very low resolution and demanding on hardware. It would also give me a very bad neck looking at #1 all the time or creaking around in BFM. TIR smoothens this for me.
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…it ain’t natural.
Well, rather that than nothing. We don’t have 1:1 headtracking and what we can accomplish via VR isn’t ideal… I’m guessing you don’t pull more than 1.5Gs in your simpit because pulling 9Gs while you’re seated in your 1G pit isn’t natural? I’m guessing you’ve disabled smart scaling too?
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Well, rather that than nothing. We don’t have 1:1 headtracking and what we can accomplish via VR isn’t ideal… I’m guessing you don’t pull more than 1.5Gs in your simpit because pulling 9Gs while you’re seated in your 1G pit isn’t natural? I’m guessing you’ve disabled smart scaling too?
I’m not a fan of VR either…that’s why I’m building a cockpit. And yes - no Smart Scaling.
What I’m starting to notice (when I do desk fly) is that I spend far too much time over 6 G and spiking to 9 G when I need to be at 4. Part of this I chalk up to my stick, and I’m hoping I’ll be more in control once I get my actual pit built and have an FCC3 setup. I don’t desk fly much anymore - not once I got past a certain point in my pit build, and also started recalling the experiences I’ve had in domed trainers that I want to incorporate into my own build. I have a pretty clear idea of what I want to achieve.
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I can 100% subscribe that. If you fly in RL, any kind of head tracking is completely strange. I am going for VR….
Yup. I do happen to be a RL private pilot. And after flying in sims with a real cockpit, I’m not a fan of VR either…it’s just another short-sell, IMO; no tactile feedback.
Best setup short of being in a real airplane is a full cockpit and a domed OTW projection - neatest one I’ve ever experienced used head tracking to project the OTW onto a 30 foot dome; the visual field filled your FOV to the point you couldn’t look outside of it, so you had full rez OTW wherever you turned your head. WAY cool, no idea how they did that. But it’s where my 1 DOF idea spawns from…compromise, but something I may be able to do.
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Strange ideas there, Stevie. While I do agree that your ideas sound cool, I’m afraid that it is not currently possible given our tech… or at least not something that an ordinary hobbyist could get. Maybe someone with a good deal of disposable income and a spare barn, but not your average Joe with a gaming room… even then, how many “average Joes” have gaming rooms?
TrackIR is used in place of such 1:1 headtracking… not ideal, but cheaper than a barn + dome setup, and definitely more useful than using a hat. Learned behaviors in using TrackIR helps a lot with SA and dogfighting/padlock situations too.
Zoom (from your other thread) is used in place of 4K or 8K monitors… the eye can probably see finer detail than most monitors and so zooming in can help people see details you wold expect to see IRL… or at least pretend your pilot has binoculars handy.
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I agree with you, Ice. My way isn’t for everyone…in fact, when I started my own project I wasn’t even “sure” I could do it myself. I’ve been at this from the standpoint of building a model airplane - a BIG model airplane - that integrates with a computer simulation, and have spent the past five years chasing my dream.
AFAIK Red Dog started all this pit building madness…at least he’s the first pit builder I ever came across, so he started it for me - I’ll give him credit. I’ve been in total shock not only of what folks over on VP are doing, but also at how many people are doing it…and how creative they are, each according to ability and budget. Some VERY creative people over there that have taught me a great deal…and that’s how I got to where I am. As a sidetrack, I’m currently building a CNC router to make parts for my cockpit…knew nothing about that when I started. Now I’m not only building one, but I’m designing it to meet my own requirements. Never too late to learn something!
As for 4K or 5K monitors…I’m not a fan of those either - no binoculars in a fighter cockpit. And it’s an added expense that doesn’t really replicate what an eye can see naturally looking through 1) glasses, 2) a visor, and 3) a canopy. All that crisp detail just plain isn’t there to see in the RW. So I’d rather save the money and simulate visual acuity by “dumbing down” the projection. What I don’t spend there I’ll put into something else - it’s a matter of choices and priorities.
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Another Colorado pilot! That makes 2 of us!
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I have two TM hotas
The first one cost me around 120€ the second one around 90€ + 40/50€ toll and fuel because it was trade off Personally.
The first one is for spare parts and the 2 one has new x/Y/Z stock pots + a home made CNC machined center play removal that cost me around 25€