Falcon BMS Alternative Launcher (Easy Setup, Keep Joystick Assignments)
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Thanks, would that include the Setup.ver file I see there too?
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Setup.ver is not an alternative launcher related file. You don’t need to back up that.
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Got it, thank you!
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Thanks
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Good Day, All, I’m loving the AL, but do have a question. Since I have started launching BMS via AL, I’ve seen frequent “axis creep”, for lack of a better term. Particularly in the throttles on the Super Hornet. The rpm values can vary from engine to by 10, or in one memorable instance, 50 %. In other words, one or the other goes into 'burner at half throttle. On deck one rpm is at idle and the other is 80% or more.
Another thing I have seen is when flying on autopilot. If I use the paddle switch to disengage the autopilot,I see the throttle move by itself and hear the 'burner sound. It’s like the Hornet’s autothrottle is engaging without me engaging it.
This has all started since I started using AL. When I enter BMS with the standard launcher it seems better. If I go in via AL but check the “no override” box, it also seems better. It may(still testing) also be better in the Hornet the the Rhino-F. -
Hi all. I have not been able to figure out how to set up pinky switch for dx shift. Im sure it is something simple I’m missing but dont see it. When I double click on the pinky switch (dx Shift) then press the pinky switch nothing happens. It just keeps saying awaiting input when I press the pinky key. To be honest I have never had to program my hotas, but since the upgrade to 4.34 I now need to make my own. Cant use the keyfile editor excel sheet because win 10 wont run the macros for reasons I cant figure out either. I have searched and read manuals to no avail. I know the button physically works. All other setup methods see it depressed and released. Inlcuding the mfd on the throttle. I have a saitek x52 non pro on win 10. I am not using any sst programs and hit clear on the tray icon and MFD on throttle confirms no program installed.
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Hi all. I have not been able to figure out how to set up pinky switch for dx shift. Im sure it is something simple I’m missing but dont see it. When I double click on the pinky switch (dx Shift) then press the pinky switch nothing happens. It just keeps saying awaiting input when I press the pinky key. To be honest I have never had to program my hotas, but since the upgrade to 4.34 I now need to make my own. Cant use the keyfile editor excel sheet because win 10 wont run the macros for reasons I cant figure out either. I have searched and read manuals to no avail. I know the button physically works. All other setup methods see it depressed and released. Inlcuding the mfd on the throttle. I have a saitek x52 non pro on win 10. I am not using any sst programs and hit clear on the tray icon and MFD on throttle confirms no program installed.
Just had the same issue.
see post #16 here:https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?37486-TARGET-Software-issues/page2
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So I’m having an issue I drop the hub and hub.exe.config into the x86 folder yet the alternate launcher won’t launch I click on it and nothing happens and I’m not sure why it’s not working.
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Did you try this from the download page?
“If the Hub.exe does not launch, put DLLs to /bin/x86/”
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thank you that was it
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Pardon my ignorance, as I’m new to BMS and AL.
On my T.16000m Flightpack setup I wanted to setup my twist stick to look left and right and my throttle paddle’s for up/down, but I suspect this won’t be possible.
Barring that, is there an editable file in AL that would allow me to at least invert the up/down axis on my POV hat? -
As far as I know, the only ways to move the camera in game are keyboard(/mapped button on controller), mouse, and TrackIR, or something that works like TrackIR…
Maybe there’s a program out there that will take your stick inputs and spit them out as trackir?
In other news… the T.16000m’s hat isn’t analog, is it? If it’s an eight way hat then it’s just eight buttons. No need to invert, just map the top and bottom to the opposite controls.
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@Mar:
As far as I know, the only ways to move the camera in game are keyboard(/mapped button on controller), mouse, and TrackIR, or something that works like TrackIR…
Maybe there’s a program out there that will take your stick inputs and spit them out as trackir?
In other news… the T.16000m’s hat isn’t analog, is it? If it’s an eight way hat then it’s just eight buttons. No need to invert, just map the top and bottom to the opposite controls.
Actually, as soon as I de-boxed my new toys, I hooked up all three (throttle, pedal, stick) and assigned the flight controls axis’ with Alternate Launcher.
The POV on top of the stick assigned by itself to control the view. I don’t see anywhere in the front-end UI to change its function at all. Was hoping that there was a config.ini I could edit -when I get Track-IR, I’m not even certain I’ll be able to change its function at all.All in all, I’m surprised and disappointed to discover a lot of the functionality of the throttle aren’t even recognized at all. I tried making a combined profile with the proprietary Target software, however in that scenario I couldn’t get AL, to even acknowledge basic flight control axis.
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Have you tested the throttle through windows control panel? Can you assign stuff to the stick hat and to the the throttle through the normal BMS UI?
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Do you use voice attack? If so, Does that program recognize the joystick buttons? You can program it that way if it does.
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From javelin10–—With an x56 you would definitely want to assign the left ministick to Radar Cursor (Cursor X/Cursor Y) and probably use the right ministick as a 4-way hat for CMS up/down/left/right, as in the real HOTAS.
Hello Javelin and all knowledgeable about this: Thanks in advanced.
So, How do users like myself and others that have X52 PRO program the mini - stick that is on the right side of the throttle to control the Radar cursor. (((( ( specifically for for the X52 Pro))) using the Alternative Launcher??? You / javelin have it working on the X56 . We need your insite for the X52 Pro. We need to use the the X52 PRO’s ministick to control the Radar cursor and are thinking that we are missing something in Alternative Launcher to do this. Or do we need to continue to use the Logitech HOTAS software to do this by setting the X and Y bands as in the past.???
Thank goodness Logitech acquired Saitek.
Coincidently I have a X56 but only use it for a space flight simulation and not BMS. I got a replacement X56 after Logitech acquired Saitek. I had issues with the X56 that Saitek manufactured and after Logitech took over , Logitech sent me an replacement made by them. It was better built , especially the throttle. The throttle responded better ( but the throttle is still huge to operate , that’s another story. But no more jitters at least)) The original Saitek produced X56 units had many flaws and jitters. I was the lucky one that had issues with Saitek’s version of the X56. Thank goodness Logitech saved the day. -
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According to my experience with Saitek’s x52, the throttle ministick could be set to work as the mouse, or as two separate normal axis. I can’t remember if it works as the mouse by default or not, but you’ll definitely need it to work as two normal axis in order to assign it as the HOTAS cursor.
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Yep Mar and thanks for the reply.
In the past most x52 and x52 pro end users had to create a profile (((*.pro type file)))) using the X52 Pro HOTAS’ programming software specifically to use the Ministick to control the Radar cursor. Otherwise all the other controls were programmed outside of the Manufacturer"s software by using DX created profiles . We were stuck with this method and unfortunately had to use the HOTAS software only for the mini stick because of the analog inputs the mini sticked used to communicate. Also We needed to load this profile ( *.pro file) prior to opening BMS and to make the mini stick control the Radar cursor and also the DX profile is loaded within BMS for the remaining controls.
SIDE. NOTE:
I have heard of people altering their Windows ’ OS" Registry to overcome this, but that is out of the question and a no no for most END Users .
I’m not certain if the ALTERNATIVE LAUNCHER made thE more cumbersome method mentioned above a little less cumbersome by including a feature that a user can select the mini stick for such controllers like the X52, X52 PRO and more …. as an input to control the Radar cursor.