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      bobbydevo last edited by

      Why is it that my touch screen doesn’t work with BMS? I cannot just reach up and touch an OSB, I have to reach out and grab my mouse and move it and click the desired button.

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        Guest last edited by

        Touchscreens do work… just not directly. 🙂

        See here

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          white_fang @Guest last edited by

          Well they work , you just have to have better understanding how they work and how they work with BMS.

          There are 3 modes for any touch screen, only 2 are important, as dx-device or mouse-device, even… mouse-device mode is somewhat deprecated with modern type touch drivers software ,
          but 3M devices works out of the box with their devices in mouse mode. … no need for Helios that way, because touch just ‘mimics’ mouse, so it works just like mouse, well just, right click is touch and hold.
          So YES it depends on driver/manufacturer of your touch.

          See in your touch control panel is it possible to change device mode to mouse then you can use it with no ‘special’ touch software like Helios which uses dx-mode iirc… well, if you can’t change that… stay with Helios.

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            Guest @white_fang last edited by

            I prefer the Helios method because it mimics an actual instrument panel –- specifically, it does not move in relation to you and it does not move no matter how you move your head (and thus, your on-screen display). You can be padlock on a target, hold your head steady, glance down on your instrument panel, reach for a switch, and glance back to your target and re-aquire visual as you activate the switch. Mouse device obviously cannot do this.

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              white_fang @Guest last edited by

              Well yes, mouse-device is of course view relative , not fixed as 2nd monitor with Helios , it is maybe better for medium large screens (touch) , but in front of your nose , hand reach … so… I guess not so effective…
              Imagine looking at ~1m screen at 0.5m distance 🙂 LOL

              I was using DCS Ka50 that way … but on old 19" 3M touch … a bit pita , you have to zoom in (trackir) to correctly press the switch/button , as fingers are ‘fat’ >~0.5x0.5cm in relation to mouse pointer. ~<1x1mm, so small jitters are observed , not so precise I mean.

              Yeah, it is matter of preference and accustomization in the end.

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                Guest @white_fang last edited by

                @white_fang:

                it is maybe better for medium large screens (touch) , but in front of your nose , hand reach … so… I guess not so effective…
                Imagine looking at ~1m screen at 0.5m distance 🙂 LOL

                Sorry, what?

                @white_fang:

                but on old 19" 3M touch … a bit pita

                Yep, bigger is better if nothing but having a bigger touch zone to activate stuff. I started with IIRC an 8" touchscreen and had to add more “pages” just to get more controls in. Quickly bought a 22" after that and then upgraded to a 24" a couple of years later. Having all controls on 2 pages makes cockpit work much, much easier 🙂

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                  Ironman53rd last edited by

                  @bobbydevo:

                  Why is it that here in the 21st century that my touch screen doesn’t work with BMS? I cannot just reach up and touch an OSB, I have to reach out and grab my mouse and move it and click the desired button.
                  Even F4AF was compatible with touchscreens.

                  I think the issue is with the Touch Screen set up NOT BMS trust me they work just great with BMS - I have 5 working with BMS and they all touch and they all work with Helios and MFDE

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                    Guest @Ironman53rd last edited by

                    @Ironman53rd:

                    I think the issue is with the Touch Screen set up NOT BMS trust me they work just great with BMS - I have 5 working with BMS and they all touch and they all work with Helios and MFDE

                    No, I think he wants to use the touchscreen both as a display device and as a way to interact with the cockpit. Therefore, he wants to look at an MFD and be able to touch the appropriate OSB and get the correct response.

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                      Ironman53rd @Guest last edited by

                      @-Ice:

                      No, I think he wants to use the touchscreen both as a display device and as a way to interact with the cockpit. Therefore, he wants to look at an MFD and be able to touch the appropriate OSB and get the correct response.

                      my mistake.

                      my advice - get another screen and use Helios (Ices profile - other profiles are available) and either MFDE or YAME

                      If you need help with either check the forums or PM Ice - he’s a nice chap and will help you out …

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