Helios and YAME64; whats the difference?
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Good afternoon,
I’ve been researching the use of Helios and YAME64 for screen extraction of the MFDs, ICP, etc, but I’m having trouble finding what the difference between the two is. At first I thought they were two different programs that did the same thing, but then I saw reference to using YAME64 in a Helios thread.
My searches haven’t really helped me distinguish between the two. Then again, I’m not overly computer savvy, so that might be part of the problem.As time permits, would someone help me with this? I currently use my Samsung tablet with the Android MFD extactor and like it very much, but have been curious about having other items on a touch screen as well.
Thank you in advance for your time!
Warmest regards,
Rob -
Best is to install both and you’ll notice immediately
In a nutshell:
Helios is primarily for making panels with switches, knobs and buttons to be used with touchscrens to interact with the BMS cockpit. Every touch/flick on a switch from helios on your touchscreen will convert the action into the correct keyboard combination to trigger the action in BMS.
As secondary function, it allows you to read some data from BMS shared memory to show for example lights (master caution, eyebrows etc) and extract some basic stuff like the MFDs.YAME64 is the opposite. It’s primarily to extract data from BMS and have you extract all sorts of instruments (MFD, HUD, DED, ADI, machmeter etc) with a lot of photo realistic parts onto your additional monitors.
Secondary, it offers some touch functions such as an ICP, knobs of the center pedestal parts, CP60 etc.Guys like Ice have made a nice profile that combines both
On this page you can scroll down to the video’s and look at some that are YAME only and some that have the combination. -
Excellent answer Focaldesign! Those are some helpful side-by-side details.
It makes me wonder if my issue could be solved by “combining the two” as you mentioned. I haven’t narrowed down the problem yet, but I use YAME for MFD extraction over wired ethernet cable (YAME is on laptop, getting data from BMS running on PC, both wired to same modem, necessary firewall settings set AFAIK) and YAME provides the OSB buttons for each as well, and when I press an OSB (for example, SWAP MFD’s) it only recognized every-other press.
First press, it swaps, second press nothing, third press, it swaps, fourth, nothing. I’ve troubleshooted the monitor touchscreen just using Windows, and it’s a brand new monitor.
Is that what you mean by your post, that Helios might be better for the buttons and dials, and I should use YAME for the MFD and gauge/dial extractions? I’d hate to think it was the “over ethernet” doing this…
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Yeah, over network it seems the current version is somewhat buggy when it comes to the touch functionality.
V2 will be a whole other level. Lot of work has been done by roccio and a team of testers has been given a lot of relevant feedback. Bottleneck now is the manual, which I did for the previous versions, but I’m lacking serious amount of time for this at the moment -
Thanks so much for the comparison! It was very helpful.
All my best,
Rob