Calculating a turn?
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Its not meant to be that way… would be nice if this changed in 4.33
the armchair pilot can decide if he wants to use auto or man stpt, so there’s nothing to change in 4.33
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@Red:
the armchair pilot can decide if he wants to use auto or man stpt, so there’s nothing to change in 4.33
what? I have no idea what you mean. You cant just decide to use auto stpt at the moment and have it work correctly. Its not a choice thing.
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then use MAN
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Red Dog, I find that very unhelpful. Are you trying to indicate that realism is not the goal of BMS?
Is this your opinion or are you acting as a spokesperson?
2.6.1.6 Two modes of steerpoint sequencing may be selected via the DED STPT page, MAN or AUTO. In MAN, the
steerpoint must be manually sequenced. In AUTO, the system automatically sequences the steerpoint when range to the
steerpoint is less than 2 nm. If AUTO is selected, an A is displayed adjacent to the steerpoint number on the DED CNI page and
AUTO is displayed on the DED STPT page. If MAN is selected, the A and AUTO are blanked. The sequencing mode is
initialized to MAN at system turn-on. AUTO sequencing is not functional in A-G, FIX, or manual ACAL modes. -
Red Dog, I find that very unhelpful. Are you trying to indicate that realism is not the goal of BMS?
Is this your opinion or are you acting as a spokesperson?
2.6.1.6 Two modes of steerpoint sequencing may be selected via the DED STPT page, MAN or AUTO. In MAN, the
steerpoint must be manually sequenced. In AUTO, the system automatically sequences the steerpoint when range to the
steerpoint is less than 2 nm. If AUTO is selected, an A is displayed adjacent to the steerpoint number on the DED CNI page and
AUTO is displayed on the DED STPT page. If MAN is selected, the A and AUTO are blanked. The sequencing mode is
initialized to MAN at system turn-on. AUTO sequencing is not functional in A-G, FIX, or manual ACAL modes.Which is how it used to be in F4. I sometimes wondered if A mode worked at all, i had to fly so close to the STP before (if) it tripped to the next.
I for another would like to to see the proximity trip back working again.
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Beside that depends if you’re on automatic or manual steerpoint. In auto, you need to almost overfly
Its not meant to be that way… would be nice if this changed in 4.33
the armchair pilot can decide if he wants to use auto or man stpt, so there’s nothing to change in 4.33
i realize you’re talking about AUTO - I’m talking about the possibility to select MAN or AUTO
sorry I misread youCurrently, the auto stpt switches to the next STP within 1300 feet - which is less than 2 Nm
and I agree it could be smoother, but it’s all a question of Priority -
Ah, I think I see the problem. I was pointing out that you do not need to overfly the stpt in auto mode - but in BMS you do. I was confused when you said that there was nothing to change in 4.33, based on that.
The difference in BMS is not the being able to select auto or man, its that in BMS you have to overfly the stpt to increment the counter.
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got it, I misread you, sorry
I’ll make a bug report -
Blu, what are the conditions for auto advancement and/or the options for steerpoint passing logic?
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Blu, what are the conditions for auto advancement and/or the options for steerpoint passing logic?
You mean this?
2.6.1.6 Two modes of steerpoint sequencing may be selected via the DED STPT page, MAN or AUTO. In MAN, the
steerpoint must be manually sequenced. In AUTO, the system automatically sequences the steerpoint when range to the
steerpoint is less than 2 nm. If AUTO is selected, an A is displayed adjacent to the steerpoint number on the DED CNI page and
AUTO is displayed on the DED STPT page. If MAN is selected, the A and AUTO are blanked. The sequencing mode is
initialized to MAN at system turn-on. AUTO sequencing is not functional in A-G, FIX, or manual ACAL modes. -
Ah, just a simple 2nm. BMS is much tighter than that if I recall. It’s at least a few thousand feet because I commonly get an auto steer advance from 1 to 2 while waiting for takeoff. I know auto advance doesn’t work in AG. I forget if it works in AA in BMS.
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auto works in all mode in BMS
it toggles very close to the active steerpoint (around 1300feet)if we change it and let it active in AG, it might induce targetting problem in AG when active
it is being discussed -
Well… its not supposed to be active in AG mode… or FIX, or A-CAL.
Seeing as the latter two are not modelled in BMS, thats fair enough.
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Hey
Just wondering if there is any way to calculate when to make a turn?
Let’s say i want to calculate when i should start a turn, i’m flying 400kts, and i have to turn 90 Degrees.
How far out from the steerpoint should i start turning? (this depends on the amount of G, yes i know)Guldager
Depends what you want to achieve in that turn or how you would like to execute a 90deg turn.
- sustaining speed?
- sustaining altitude?
- sustaining speed and altitude? (belive it or not, alot vpilots have problems even doing that - VVI needle at 0 and speed +/- 3kts)
- is it a “turning point” turn?
- is it a “fly over point” turn?
If it is a “truning point” turn and you want to find out the point of the turn-initiation, just calculate your radius R while speed, altitute, GW, and bank-angle (aka G-laod) are you variables here, and start turning R feet before WP.