15,000 in 45 seconds is very reasonable with a climb rate of 50,000 ft/min on a clean jet. After 30 seconds of takeoff roll and 15" of climb you’re rolling out around 15,000’. Loaded down with weapons, fuel tanks, etc is a different story. We used to accelerate to about 400kts and blend in a nice 3-4G pull to 60 degrees nose high and climb to 10k’ on our combat departures with a full combat load. This allows us to roll out at 10,000’ and still have good maneuvering airspeed. Climb much higher and you piss your energy away.
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RE: F-16 (BMS) Flight model Stress Test, Wheel brakes to 15,000ft in 45secs
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RE: Any REAL F-16 pilots in there?
Gentleman and ladies,
I received this email from my squadron commander and wanted to share. The internment has already taken place but still a good article:
If the opportunity presents itself tomorrow, please consider a moment of silence at 0947 EST in memory of Maj John ‘Jack’ Donovan Sr, USAF (Ret). Jack headed west on Sat 11 Apr 2015 in Tucson, AZ. He will be re-interned in Arlington National Cemetery at that time and honored by a 4-ship of Swamp Fox F-16s with a Missing Man Flyover. On 22 Dec 1965, in an F-100F, Jack was the Bear (EWO) on the mission credited with the first SAM kill of the Vietnam War.
This is a great opportunity to tell the story which is so representative of the sacrifices made by the mighty men who’ve forged our Great Nation to the many patriotic citizens who don’t get exposed to the details of true acts of Valor. A quick read of Wild Weasel history can be found in the 1998 Air & Space Magazine article:
Counterpunch – Flying Wild Weasel missions involved a variety of airframes but just one philosophy: Do unto SAMS before they do unto you. http://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/counterpunch-206258/?all
The unofficial motto of Wild Weasel crews is YGBSM: “You Gotta Be Shittin’ Me”. This appears prominently on the logo patch of some squadrons. As the story goes, this was the response of Jack Donovan, a former B-52 EWO (Electronic Warfare Officer): This was the natural response of an educated man, a veteran EWO on B-52s and the like, upon learning that he was to fly back seat to a self-absorbed fighter pilot while acting as flypaper for enemy SAMs. His exact words were: “You want me to fly in the back of a little tiny fighter aircraft with a crazy fighter pilot who thinks he’s invincible, home in on a SAM site in North Vietnam, and shoot it before it shoots me, you gotta be shittin’ me!”
Jack’s Obituary from the Super Sabre Society: http://www.supersabresociety.com/memorials/john-edward-jack-donovan-sr-headed-west/
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RE: Any REAL F-16 pilots in there?
Yes it is Stang. I know you are still waiting on your end of the deal! LOL
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RE: Any REAL F-16 pilots in there?
I have moved. In the big bold and beautiful state of Texas now. I get to see the 35’s fly by once in a while, but that is about it. I still have all of your photos from the 157th! Here’s one I loved very much.
Looking forward to flying with you. Got to meet up and fly FBMS at some point. Always my warmest regards.
Hook
Stang took that photo as I was getting ready for a night mission. It’s always been one of my favorites, also!
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RE: Any REAL F-16 pilots in there?
HELLO old friend!
It has been a few years since we last chatted. GREAT to see you here!
jhook,
It’s great to be here. What have you been up to?
Thanks for the warm welcome!
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RE: Any REAL F-16 pilots in there?
Aragorn,
Wow! Good to “see” you! Hope you have been doing well:D
Haole
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RE: Any REAL F-16 pilots in there?
Hi Haole!
Very very nice to see your post just as I’m on the quest of trying to find out When you can “tally” a f16 coming in for a merch, high aspect, Sunne wheather. That would be in distance. I know its kinda jumping at you but you always have the opportunity to disregard my question. :-))
Hope you will enjoy your stay here and I would be happy to fly with you anytime.
/Jaws
Hi Jasajas,
I hate to give the old “it depends” answer but it really does. The environmental conditions are ever changing. Clear sunny days are usually the hardest. If you can manage to put the adversary between you and a cloud layer then you can see them fairly far out. Clear sunny days can result in you not seeing them until you are almost merging. The new helmets really help now and allow the pilots to pick up a tally much sooner obviously. Having a Radar lock gives you a lot of information to help pick up the tally, it is the times that you loose a lock close range that can get ugly! If you are the supporting fighter following your wingman to the merge waiting to take the shot when the lead merges and calls “hostile” it is a fine line between being close enough for you to see the adversary to take the shot and being too close where he sees you and is able to spoil your shot. A good wingman always stays visual on his/her flight lead above everything else! If you lose the adversary but maintain visual with your lead that is not ideal but manageable. If you lose the adversary AND go blind (lose sight of your lead) that causes SO many bad issues. So work hard to find that bad guy at the merge, but don’t lose sight of your lead!
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RE: Any REAL F-16 pilots in there?
Welcome Haole ! Glad you’re here. I just finished reading a few of youre posts over @ the ED Forums. Its a good thing what you’re doing as being allowed to select the track you “want” is not an easy thing to do
and grasp it all. The future I’m sure will greatly appreciate it and never forget what you were able to provide for them.
Thank youThanks Bolt-1,
I’m just doing my best to help!
I was very lucky to have the opportunity to fly Vipers. If I can help others live their dreams then I am a happy man!
Haole
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RE: Any REAL F-16 pilots in there?
Thanks Malc and yes I do remember you from FW.
I hated being away for so long but I’m happy to be back.
Cheers,
Haole