X55 worth getting?
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Ok i noticed it before but took no notice of it, but i have to especially from whats been happening when i’ve flown this basic handling TE. When i was flying in that TE, occasionally i’ve heard the computer say chaff,flare, and i havent pressed anything. I found out where the readout is for your remaining chaff and flares and to start with i have 60 chaff, 30 flares. Well when i hear the computer say chaff/flare and look at that readout, i see i’ve expended chaff/flares (and see the flash from flares light up cockpit) but i’m pressing nothing. Then i noticed in the setup screen, you know when you press a button, it comes up with for example INPUT then say button 35, below will show what its assigned to.
Well…in the setup screen i’ve noticed i’m not pressing anything and then i’ll suddenly see a button so happen to have been pressed and it will come up. Most common one is button 64 which is assigned to ICP-NAV, and another, you guessed it is CMS forward which is what releases chaff/flare when in game, but i dont press the button.What do you think this is? please dont tell me i have a faulty X55.
Does the chaffs/flare happen when you move your throttle? Just trying to find out if it is a ghosting issue.
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@Drac- I see the difference now, takes a few seconds for the air brakes to fully open. The only real problems i’m having now are:
1. The bowl hat on the stick i set to trim up,down,left and right. But it must still be binded to look up and down too as when i trim up/down, my view changes to looking up at the canopy (looking above my head) and cant seem to correct this after, have to exit the game…though i think it just happens when i accidently press diagonal up/right or left rather than just up/right/left/down. Gonna have an experiment in a sec.
2. Looking around at my instruments/MFDs and back to HUD and zooming in/out to look at things and interact. Hats off to those who dont use head tracking gear and still play the game well. This will be solved once i get my Delan Clip.
3. The range knob- Is this just to adjust zoom for the TGP? shame its not for FCR/HSD range also, but this will be made easier when i get my Delan Clip so i can zoom in to them and just click with mouse. At the moment though i have TGL 3 and 4 set to HSD/FCR range increase/decrease.
All the rest on flying the plane and operating the systems is for me to learn through the manuals and doing the training TE’s. Starting to feel like i’m really getting into it now
Question 3 - I currently use it to zoom out/in the Tgt Pod…haven’t really tried using it on other screens to see what happens. For the FCR range increase/decrease, you can just bump the edge of the FCR screen (with your cursor) at the top to increase and the bottom to decrease. It is much faster than taking your hand off the throttle to adjust.
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Does the chaffs/flare happen when you move your throttle? Just trying to find out if it is a ghosting issue.
Well i just went into setup, didnt press anything for a few minutes and nothing happened and no buttons appeared to have been recognised as being pressed. I started moving the throttle and pressed a few buttons and then different commands started to appear, like CMS forward, toggle air brakes…and then i stopped pressing anything and didnt move my throttle, and after about 10 seconds or so another button appeared to have been pressed which was the button for UHF. What do you reckon? could be this ghosting that you mention?
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After watching it for a few mins since i messed around with the throttle theres been more commands that come up, which seems like a ghost is pressing them, and all the commands are mapped on my throttle (CMS Forward, IFF In, toggle air brakes, AP pitch toggle, and few others) so i guess it is this ghosting that you mention, oh and i notice the throttle gauge on the setup screen (the one which you see move up and down when you move your throttle) i notice that seems to twitch, like its blinking.
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Looks like you may a ghosting issue. Recommend that you get a “powered” USB Hub and connect your throttle to it. That is what I had to do to get rid of the ghosting. The USB Hubs are fairly cheap by the way.
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one other consideration, are there any good BMS Profiles supporting the X55? I know there are some nice ones for the X52 Pro such as Scuby’s.
Here’s the one I use. It’s been good for both A2A and A2G.
And this is the configuration in my KEY file for just the HOTAS portion, with another user obviously having to change the DX device button numbers. I’ve left my MFDs in this so you can see what I leave for the extra GAIN, BRIGHT, SYM, and CON rocker switches. I’m also using HELIOS for my ICP and left/right cockpit panels, along with some from the front panel.
I use the X55 Profiler software to map the FCS paddle to toggle FRAPS on/off, as well as the Throttle slider to the NVG toggle.
##################### DAWGBOY SETUP #########################
HOTAS and MFDs
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Left MFD unshifted
SimDoNothing -1 0 0XFFFFFFFF 0 0 0 -2
SimCBEOSB_1L 0 1025 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_2L 1 1026 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_3L 2 1027 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_4L 3 1028 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_5L 4 1029 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_6L 5 1030 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_7L 6 1031 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_8L 7 1032 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_9L 8 1033 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_10L 9 1034 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_11L 10 1039 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_12L 11 1038 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_13L 12 1037 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_14L 13 1036 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_15L 14 1035 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_16L 15 1044 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_17L 16 1043 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_18L 17 1042 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_19L 18 1041 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_20L 19 1040 -2 0 0x0 0
SimAVTRSwitchOn 20 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “ACMI On”
SimAVRTSwitchOff 21 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “ACMI Off”
SimStepIntercomVolumeUp 22 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Intercom Vol Up”
SimStepIntercomVolumeDown 23 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Intercom Vol Dwn”
SimCBEOSB_BRTUP_L 24 1100 -2 0 0x0 0 “Left MFD Bright Up”
SimCBEOSB_BRTDOWN_L 25 1101 -2 0 0x0 0 “Left MFD Bright Down”
SimLeftAPSwitch 26 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “AP Roll Hdg/Strg Hold”
SimRightAPSwitch 27 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “AP Pitch/Alt Hold”Right MFD unshifted
SimDoNothing -1 0 0XFFFFFFFF 0 0 0 -2
SimCBEOSB_1R 32 1045 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_2R 33 1046 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_3R 34 1047 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_4R 35 1048 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_5R 36 1049 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_6R 37 1050 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_7R 38 1051 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_8R 39 1052 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_9R 40 1053 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_10R 41 1054 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_11R 42 1059 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_12R 43 1058 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_13R 44 1057 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_14R 45 1056 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_15R 46 1055 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_16R 47 1064 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_17R 48 1063 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_18R 49 1062 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_19R 50 1061 -2 0 0x0 0
SimCBEOSB_20R 51 1060 -2 0 0x0 0
OTWToggleScales 52 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Toggle HUD Scales”
OTWStepHudColor 53 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Toggle HUD Color”
SimInstrumentLight 54 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Toggle Instrument Lgt”
SimInteriorLight 55 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Toggle Interior Light”
SimCBEOSB_BRTUP_R 56 1098 -2 0 0x0 0 “Right MFD Bright Up”
SimCBEOSB_BRTDOWN_R 57 1099 -2 0 0x0 0 “Right MFD Bright Down”
SimRangeKnobUp 58 1099 -2 0 0x0 0 “Man Rng Inc”
SimRangeKnobDown 59 1099 -2 0 0x0 0 “Man Rng Dec”FCS UNSHIFTED
SimDoNothing -1 0 0XFFFFFFFF 0 0 0 -2
SimTrigger 96 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Trigger”
SimPickle 97 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Pickle”
SimSelectSRMOverride 98 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Dogfight Mode/SRM”
SimSlapSwitch 99 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Slap Switch”
SimHotasPinkyShift 100 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Pinky”
SimDMSUp 102 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “DMS Up”
SimDMSRight 103 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “DMS Right”
SimDMSDown 104 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “DMS Down”
SimDMSLeft 105 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “DMS Left”
SimTMSUp 106 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “TMS Up”
SimTMSRight 107 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “TMS Right”
SimTMSDown 108 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “TMS Down”
SimTMSLeft 109 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “TMS Left”THROTTLE UNSHIFTED
SimTransmitCom1 128 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “UHF Xmit”
SimToggleMissileCage 129 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Cage/Uncage Seeker”
OTWGlanceForward 130 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Glance Forward”
AFBrakesToggle 131 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Speed Brake”
SimECMConsent 132 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “ECM Consent”
SimCommsSwitchLeft 133 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “A2A Datalink”
SimCommsSwitchRight 134 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “A2G Datalink”
SimToggleExtLights 135 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Toggle Exterior Lights”
SimParkingBrakeToggle 136 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Toggel Parking Brake”
AFGearToggle 137 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Toggle Gear Up/Dn”
SimMissileStep 138 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “NWS Toggle”
SimEmergencyJettison 139 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Emergency Stores Jettison”
RecenterTrackIR 140 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Recenter TrackIR”
SimLandingLightToggle 141 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Landing Light Toggle”
SimSilenceHorn 142 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Silence Horn”
SimFuelDoorOpen 143 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Refuel Door Open”
SimFuelDoorClosed 144 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Refuel Door Closed”
AFAlternateGear 145 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Alternate Gear”
AFAlternateGearReset 146 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Alternate Gear Reset”
SimCursorUp 147 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Cursor Up”
SimCursorRight 148 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Cursor Right”
SimCursorDown 149 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Cursor Down”
SimCursorLeft 150 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Cursor Left”
AWACSRequestPicture 151 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Request Air Picture”
ATCRequestEmergencyClearance 152 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “ATC Emerg Landing”
AWACSVectorToThreat 153 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Request Vector to Threat”
ATCRequestClearance 154 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “ATC Request Landing Clearance”
ToggleNVGMode 155 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Dim HMS”
SimHmsOn 156 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “HMS On”
FOVDecrease 157 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “FOV Zoom Out”
FOVIncrease 158 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “FOV Zoom In”FCS SHIFTED
SimEject 352 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “SEAT-Ejection Handle”
OTWSelectWeaponMode 353 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Weapon View”
SimSelectMRMOverride 354 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Dogfight MRM”
SimHotasPinkyShift 356 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Pinky Shift”THROTTLE SHIFTED
SimTransmitCom2 384 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “VHF Xmit”
SimDeselectOverride 385 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Deselect Dogfight”
FOVDefault 386 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Default FOV”
SimEWSJammerPower 388 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “Toggle Jammer”
SimHmsOff 412 -1 -2 0 0x0 0 “HMS Off”POV Hat 1 UNSHIFTED
OTWSelectF3PadlockModeAA 0 -1 -3 0 0x0 0 “Padlock”
SimDoNothing 0 -1 -3 1 0x0 0
SimNextAAWeapon 0 -1 -3 2 0x0 0 “Next A2A Wpn”
SimDoNothing 0 -1 -3 3 0x0 0
OTWSelect3DCockpitMode 0 -1 -3 4 0x0 0 “Back to Cockpit”
SimDoNothing 0 -1 -3 5 0x0 0
SimNextAGWeapon 0 -1 -3 6 0x0 0 “Next A2G Wpn”
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Looks like you may a ghosting issue. Recommend that you get a “powered” USB Hub and connect your throttle to it. That is what I had to do to get rid of the ghosting. The USB Hubs are fairly cheap by the way.
Ah i see, yea looks like this is the issue. I’ve been reading other peoples’ posts about it and some say the ghosting stopped when they changed usb ports, like from usb 2 to 3 ports. I dont know what ports are 2 and what are 3 to be honest but i do have other ports i can try. I’ll see hopefully can resolve this without having to buy a hub.
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Found out USB 3 ports are blue in colour and are supposedly more powerful than usb 2 ports. Well my throttle was plugged in to a 2 port and changed it to 3 (have two usb 3 ports at the back of my tower) and now seems that the ghosting is even worse…so much for usb 3 ports.
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Found out USB 3 ports are blue in colour and are supposedly more powerful than usb 2 ports. Well my throttle was plugged in to a 2 port and changed it to 3 (have two usb 3 ports at the back of my tower) and now seems that the ghosting is even worse…so much for usb 3 ports.
Roger that. I also heard about changing the ports but in some cases it did not help. Yes, USB 3 ports are blue in color. Anyway, try the powered USB hub and see what happens. I read somewhere the technical problem…but cannot remember where it is now.
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Yea will do man, i’ll buy one at a shop tomorrow. Just wanna get this sorted out, coz i cant play the game with this ghosting going on. I guess my pc doesnt have enough power to sustain my X55 throttle, its weird though with how it seems to pick up buttons, like it detects them being pressed, i dont get it. I think that if the pc cant sustain the throttle, then it shouldnt work at all, or you’d think it would sporadically go on and off…but this ghosting is weird.
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Yea will do man, i’ll buy one at a shop tomorrow. Just wanna get this sorted out, coz i cant play the game with this ghosting going on. I guess my pc doesnt have enough power to sustain my X55 throttle, its weird though with how it seems to pick up buttons, like it detects them being pressed, i dont get it. I think that if the pc cant sustain the throttle, then it shouldnt work at all, or you’d think it would sporadically go on and off…but this ghosting is weird.
I initially tried to resolve this issue with the Saitek representative(s). They sent me a number of emails with suggestions to correct the ghosting…nothing worked. Then I ran across a thread on another forum that recommended the powered USB hub…that did the trick. Hope it works for you as well. Let me know the outcome.
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Will do and thanks, fingers crossed.
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Drac what powered hub have you got? whats the make and model?
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Drac what powered hub have you got? whats the make and model?
Belkin USB 2.0 Hub - 7 port, Model#F4U022
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Ok cool and is that what you plug your X55 throttle into? i’ll see if i can get it tomorrow.
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Ok cool and is that what you plug your X55 throttle into? i’ll see if i can get it tomorrow.
Yes.
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Ok well i just got a Belkin USB 2.0 4 port powered hub, and at first i was pretty peed off, as the ghosting was happening, but it happened just twice, stopped, happened once more. After a few mins was getting no ghosting and all i get now is the occasional ghosting of button 15 which is mapped to UHF, and if this is all i’ll get then its no problem but will need to keep monitoring it for a bit. My guess is the hub needs a few mins to power up properly so at the moment it seems ok, a few questions.
1. I hadnt mapped button 15 to anything, coz i dont know where it is, i cannot find it on neither my stick or throttle, do you know where it is?
2. How can i unbind a function for one of my buttons on my stick/throttle? is it possible? so for example right now i have button 64 (M1 selector switch button on throttle) mapped to ICP-Nav, can i change this to unassigned?
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Ok well i just got a Belkin USB 2.0 4 port powered hub, and at first i was pretty peed off, as the ghosting was happening, but it happened just twice, stopped, happened once more. After a few mins was getting no ghosting and all i get now is the occasional ghosting of button 15 which is mapped to UHF, and if this is all i’ll get then its no problem but will need to keep monitoring it for a bit. My guess is the hub needs a few mins to power up properly so at the moment it seems ok, a few questions.
1. I hadnt mapped button 15 to anything, coz i dont know where it is, i cannot find it on neither my stick or throttle, do you know where it is?
2. How can i unbind a function for one of my buttons on my stick/throttle? is it possible? so for example right now i have button 64 (M1 selector switch button on throttle) mapped to ICP-Nav, can i change this to unassigned?
3. My slider switch on my throttle isnt recognised in the setup, is yours recognised?Question 1: Not sure what you mean by Button 15. All the buttons are Alpha or Alpha Numeric.
Question 2: I have not found a way yet. At the moment, I bind the keys to a non-functioning command on my keyfile through the Setup Tab or just assign it to another function you will need.
Question 3. My slider is assigned to my third party software called “Attack Command”. It is an on/off switch. Forward to give verbal commands and Back to turn off the Attack Command. There are others out there who use the slider for their Airbrakes. -
Q1….If you use Windows game controller it gives you the number of each button
Q2…As Drac says
Q3… Mines the same. I’m told you can assign it via site’s software but I’d rather assign mine in game so it’s dead atm…Gary
Just checked and button 15 is tgl 2… (back) on mine…
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Q1….If you use Windows game controller it gives you the number of each button
Q2…As Drac says
Q3… Mines the same. I’m told you can assign it via site’s software but I’d rather assign mine in game so it’s dead atm…Gary
Just checked and button 15 is tgl 2… (back) on mine…
Understand now on Button 15. I have been to that Windows game controller before trying to troubleshoot the ghosting problem I initially had before I got the powered USB hub.