Massive FPS Loss
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I made some tests on my puny system - i5 2430M, HD6850M 1GB VRAM, 8GB RAM, 1600x900 resolution, graphics settings in game left untouched, only changes made in configuration through F4Patch utility as described below:
Test environment - Navigation training mission.
1st test - default settings:
2nd test - default with removed Water environment mapping (along with Cloud reflection and Focus object reflection)
3rd test - default with removed HDR lighting
4th test - default with Reduced particle system
5th test - default with Low resolution for clouds
TBC in the next post….
Conclusion (as I can see) : no significant changes (1 to 4fps maximum)
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… continuing
6th test - default settings with all the above combined
7th test was done with the same settings as above with one thing changed: Per vertex lighting instead of Per pixel lighting but the results were the same.
HDR lighting and water effects consumed most FPS, reduced particle system seemed to have no influence but may be helpful when there is more action on screen (explosions and other effects).
Overall, for me these settings may give some playability vs. watching a slideshow (27 FPS vs. 17 FPS inside the cockpit/42 FPS vs. 22 FPS outside!), at least until I upgrade to a new rig. I could also disable the shadows (inside cockpit and focus shadows), but I like them too much
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Conclusion (as I can see) : no significant changes (1 to 4fps maximum)
I had to split my post due to attachment limit - the conclusion is that combining all the changes I got over 50% increase of FPS inside the cockpit (from 17 to 27) and ~90% increase in external view (from 22 to 42).
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Oh my gawd, such whining. Wahhh! I’m losing 15 FPS! Waaaahhhh! I can’t fly at 4K resolution with everything on like I could in 4.32. Waaah!!! What a perfect display of millennial-type outrage. Look at every other game / sim on the market. Black Ops 3 is more demanding than Black Ops 2 is more demanding than Black Ops 1. Battlefield 4 is more demanding than Battlefield 3 is more demanding than Battlefield 2.
BMS devs have spent hundreds of thousands of hours of their free time putting this together, and releasing it for free.
Anything over 15 FPS is perfectly flyable. Want more? Buy a better rig or turn down the options. Whining and complaining about FPS > 30 is absolutely absurd. Some of you need to seriously consider how atrocious your complaints are.
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Oh my gawd, such whining. Wahhh! I’m losing 15 FPS! Waaaahhhh! I can’t fly at 4K resolution with everything on like I could in 4.32. Waaah!!! What a perfect display of millennial-type outrage. Look at every other game / sim on the market. Black Ops 3 is more demanding than Black Ops 2 is more demanding than Black Ops 1. Battlefield 4 is more demanding than Battlefield 3 is more demanding than Battlefield 2.
BMS devs have spent hundreds of thousands of hours of their free time putting this together, and releasing it for free.
Anything over 15 FPS is perfectly flyable. Want more? Buy a better rig or turn down the options. Whining and complaining about FPS > 30 is absolutely absurd. Some of you need to seriously consider how atrocious your complaints are.
Where do you see me whining? I just stated that these few tweaks gave me some FPS boost on my crappy PC . And to help some fellow simmers I shared with my observations.
About 15 FPS being flyable - yes, but doing a dogfight with agile bandit with guns only - I wish you luck…
Nevertheless I never undermined the developers who bring us this fine release for free. They are fantastic people, and we all should be thankful. TBH I would gladly pay $ for their hard work as they deserve it for sure!
Peace.
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It affects all graphics cards, as they are rendering additional screens effectively.
It indicates you’re running with an NVIDIA card. I lose 1-2 fps when I used BMS extraction with my significantly cheaper and alas somewhat slower AMD card
I’m confused.
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BMS devs have spent hundreds of thousands of hours of their free time putting this together, and releasing it for free.
This really is the bottom line boys and girls. We owe these people our gratitude.
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I’m confused.
Are you really? Read the replies in context.
TGP/WPN/FLIR slowdowns affect all cards. If anything our testing would suggest newer NVIDIA cards may even see less of a framerate hit.
BMS extraction affects NVIDIA cards more than AMD cards, i.e. they will see more of a framerate hit.
Simples.
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Are you really? Read the replies in context.
TGP/WPN/FLIR slowdowns affect all cards. If anything our testing would suggest newer NVIDIA cards may even see less of a framerate hit.
BMS extraction affects NVIDIA cards more than AMD cards, i.e. they will see more of a framerate hit.
Simples.
The confusion is that I was not using extraction in the test you said my 40fps loss was from being an nVidia card. It was just a frame drop from the two MFD’s video which is same for all cards and not because it was an nVidia card. However, I lose 1-2 fps with MFDE and don’t use BMS extraction because of high fps loss which is from because it is an nVidia card. Correct?:)
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I think so. :mrgreen:
Having a quick flick back it looks like I assumed you were running BMS extraction (probably because I’d been reading of your MFDE issues). Anyway, using MFDE, now you’ve got it working, seems the smart course of action if you’re toting the latest NVIDIA hardware.
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Oh my gawd, such whining. Wahhh! I’m losing 15 FPS! Waaaahhhh! I can’t fly at 4K resolution with everything on like I could in 4.32. Waaah!!! What a perfect display of millennial-type outrage. Look at every other game / sim on the market. Black Ops 3 is more demanding than Black Ops 2 is more demanding than Black Ops 1. Battlefield 4 is more demanding than Battlefield 3 is more demanding than Battlefield 2.
BMS devs have spent hundreds of thousands of hours of their free time putting this together, and releasing it for free.
Anything over 15 FPS is perfectly flyable. Want more? Buy a better rig or turn down the options. Whining and complaining about FPS > 30 is absolutely absurd. Some of you need to seriously consider how atrocious your complaints are.
I don’t think it’s about whining, I think it’s more about this being a new release and everyone trying to figure out the “new normal”. I have a pretty new vid card and I see about a 50 FPS hit with TGP and MAV video. Is that what I should expect? I have no clue. Am I whining by asking if it’s a problem with the game or with my system? No - I just have no point of reference to make a conclusion.
If 30FPS is the new normal, then great, BMS is still awesome. But if its not normal, then it isn’t whining to try and collaborate with other people to fix it or pass feedback to Devs.
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Anything over 15 FPS is perfectly flyable. Want more? Buy a better rig or turn down the options.
Well, if you can fly with only 18 fps, I have bad news : it seems your brain is working at a lower frequency than most people and nobody told you.
More seriously, I agree some people have over-the-top complaints, but some other people still have problems even with decent rigs (count me in). It’s a perfectly legit matter for discussion.
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I’ve figured out two tricks to improve FPS.
Turning off shaders:
go to …\Falcon BMS 4.33\User\Config, open falcon bms.cfg, add line: set g_bUseShaders 0Turning off wing vapors:
go to …\Falcon BMS 4.33\Data\Terrdata, open particlesys.ini, find ‘definetexture=vapor0’ and ‘definetexture=vapor1’ in lines texture.blendmode=SMOKE change SMOKE to HEAT -
go to …\Falcon BMS 4.33\User\Config, open falcon bms.cfg, add line: set g_bUseShaders 0
go to …\Falcon BMS 4.33\Data\Terrdata, open particlesys.ini, find ‘definetexture=vapor0’ and ‘definetexture=vapor1’ in lines texture.blendmode=SMOKE change SMOKE to HEAT
… and using the “BMS Configuration” of the Launcher … no? Not easier?
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… and using the “BMS Configuration” of the Launcher … no? Not easier?
it’s not there any more;)
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And I cannot find g_bUseShaders and also not definetexture…
in falcon bms.cfg you need to ADD 'g_bUseShaders=0’like this
and particlesys.ini should look like this
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http://simhq.com/forum/files/usergals/2012/08/full-3210-40352-bms.jpg
4.32vs4.33
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