What Semler said.
To add to his description, here’s a short video that clearly shows how the real thing moves :

@white_fang said in King of the Hill Tour, Sortie #3:

To this day , there are still some pieces of remains few F16’s in Balkan’s woods, luckily not much, but they did same mistake…
Those woods were/are dangerous.

A grand total of 2 F-16s were actually shot down over Balkans (one in 1995, one in 1999). Both of them were hit by medium-range SAMs that could engage targets above 10,000 ft.

My only wish is quite simple (though probably not quite simple to code) : I wish my wingman didn’t follow my turn by turning in front of my plane, as though he had an owl-like neck.

@OPPOTATO said in MRM/DF override:

@Fish44 Correct, in order for me to go to DF override mode from MRM override is to first hit the cancel button then hit the DF override. So its 2 button clicks to do it, if you DONT hit the cancel callback first, it switches to AIM-9s while still being in MRM override which is not a function of the real aircraft as it is physically impossible to hit the DF override switch position from the MRM position without going through the cancel command. People without the Warthog/Cougar/maybe the winwing F-16 throttle, probably have this issue too.

Well, the solution I described just does what you want : click the momentary button and you get DF or MRM with no transition issue, because as you click the cancel function is activated as well.
You wouldn’t have to hold the button down at all, as you seem to have understood.

@sparrowGR said in Throttle Calibration Questions:

Logitech X52 Pro HOTAS
So far my throttle is working just fine. There are some questions though for the reality on it’s functioning realistically. When I start up the engine from the Ramp start option, I have to have the Throttle all the way back or the virtual throttle click from Cut off to Idle will not respond.

1. Is that how it is supposed to work or is that my bad calibration?
2. Is it possible to have the Virtual Throttle Click Idle / Cut off Detent assigned to Throttle itself?
3. When I have the Throttle all the way back during flight, will it shut off the engine or is that where the Idle position is? I always thought the Idle position was at the first Stop of the Throttle Stick.
4. What would be the most Realistic Calibration of the Throttle Stick?
   Thanks in advance
   Happy Flights!

This is the default system, yes : you can use the idle/cut-off function only when the throttle has been pulled all the way back.
If you pull the throttle to 0 %, you merely get idle power (which may vary a lot depending on speed and altitude at least) but the engine won’t get shut. To shut the engine off, you have to get to the cut-off position from there, which means activating the idle/cut-off detent function.

You can modify the way the throttle works so that the 0 % position shuts the engine off, but this is a pretty bad idea if you don’t have any physical detent on your throttle .

@LorikEolmin said in Santa's wishlist for BMS:

@ewildcat said in Santa's wishlist for BMS: as though he had an owl-like neck.

It’s artificial?

– Be careful. I heard the owl people were everywhere.
– Who ?
– OMG !

@sparrowGR
Thanks, but it’s not mine.
I wish I were that good at building things, but my actual sim “playground” is quite simpler.

First : thanks for your time. It’s appreciated.

@Amadeus75 said in 10th command unusable in comm menu:

@ewildcat
Just curious… is your “0” correctly recognized in the controls setup in BMS?

Good question. I just checked, and yes it is.

@airtex2019 said in 10th command unusable in comm menu:

@ewildcat if it helps remove doubt – it works ok for me (standard US qwerty keyboard layout)

everything in BMS key files is done by “scan-codes”… you will either have to determine which key on your keybd layout is scan-code 0x0B and use that… or, determine the scan-code of whichever key is to the right of ‘9’ and rebind to use that

0x0B is the [0] key too on an azerty (French) keyboard. Which used to work.
Thanks for confirming it still works for you. At least I know I must go on investigating what may be wrong on my own config then.

Probably a silly and tiny config problem, that I may even be ashamed of when I find it out.

I guess I must have missed something : I can no longer use the 10th command option in the comm menu (like “set bingo” or “kickout”), since hitting [0] does not activate it anymore (on an azerty keyboard, it that may matter), whereas [1] to [9] keys do right what you expect them do to.

Does anyone encounter the same problem, or have any idea where this may come from ?

@sparrowGR
Thanks, but it’s not mine.
I wish I were that good at building things, but my actual sim “playground” is quite simpler.

What Semler said.
To add to his description, here’s a short video that clearly shows how the real thing moves :

@sparrowGR said in Throttle Calibration Questions:

Logitech X52 Pro HOTAS
So far my throttle is working just fine. There are some questions though for the reality on it’s functioning realistically. When I start up the engine from the Ramp start option, I have to have the Throttle all the way back or the virtual throttle click from Cut off to Idle will not respond.

1. Is that how it is supposed to work or is that my bad calibration?
2. Is it possible to have the Virtual Throttle Click Idle / Cut off Detent assigned to Throttle itself?
3. When I have the Throttle all the way back during flight, will it shut off the engine or is that where the Idle position is? I always thought the Idle position was at the first Stop of the Throttle Stick.
4. What would be the most Realistic Calibration of the Throttle Stick?
   Thanks in advance
   Happy Flights!

This is the default system, yes : you can use the idle/cut-off function only when the throttle has been pulled all the way back.
If you pull the throttle to 0 %, you merely get idle power (which may vary a lot depending on speed and altitude at least) but the engine won’t get shut. To shut the engine off, you have to get to the cut-off position from there, which means activating the idle/cut-off detent function.

You can modify the way the throttle works so that the 0 % position shuts the engine off, but this is a pretty bad idea if you don’t have any physical detent on your throttle .

@MaxWaldorf said in Headache Saver - Alt Launch Override:

@Zeus we will move forward with AL…
The old ways won’t stay forever…

It’s a true move forward for keys indeed. The current system is quite obsolete.

Wrt axes we need a way to assign virtual axes though, since (unless I missed something) AL doesn’t enable it. I guess you may re-write AL files to circumvent the limitation but it’s not really what it’s designed to be.

@LorikEolmin said in Santa's wishlist for BMS:

@ewildcat said in Santa's wishlist for BMS: as though he had an owl-like neck.

It’s artificial?

– Be careful. I heard the owl people were everywhere.
– Who ?
– OMG !

My only wish is quite simple (though probably not quite simple to code) : I wish my wingman didn’t follow my turn by turning in front of my plane, as though he had an owl-like neck.

@Dee-Jay
I get the same discrepancy with no delta in 4.36U1 as well.

@OPPOTATO said in MRM/DF override:

@Fish44 Correct, in order for me to go to DF override mode from MRM override is to first hit the cancel button then hit the DF override. So its 2 button clicks to do it, if you DONT hit the cancel callback first, it switches to AIM-9s while still being in MRM override which is not a function of the real aircraft as it is physically impossible to hit the DF override switch position from the MRM position without going through the cancel command. People without the Warthog/Cougar/maybe the winwing F-16 throttle, probably have this issue too.

Well, the solution I described just does what you want : click the momentary button and you get DF or MRM with no transition issue, because as you click the cancel function is activated as well.
You wouldn’t have to hold the button down at all, as you seem to have understood.