F-16 FLCS + TQS
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A quick -and possibly stupid- question ?
I still own a thrustmaster F-16 FLCS and the corresponding TQS (although I miss the EPROM that would have allowed the two to work together, but that’s another story…). Those are of course not USB devices, but use the old joystick 15 pin game port. needless to say, there is no such game port on my computer… Does that mean that that equipment is useless, or is there a way to “revive” it ? I did find of course stuff like this : http://www.amazon.co.uk/Female-Joystick-Game-Adapter-Cable/dp/B002G8X3T4
but is it any good ? I would not regard a F-16 FLCS as a “standard” joystick ?
Does anyone have some expert advice on the matter ?
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There are soundcards available they support a game port. So you can shut down the sound card features and still use the game port. I did a test already, but my computer was too fast for the game
And for programming you would need a workign DOS mode.
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Thanks for the tip. I was considering also such an option… that would also require some cable to convert the keyboard port (large on the FLCS while most motherboard now use the PS/2 one…).
Anyone did perform or had performed by some pro a total conversion of the hardware to USB ?
Would you or anyone else know also where I could lay my hand on one of the EPROM that Thrustmaster made for the 1st gen F-16 FLCS so they coud handle the TQS ?
Back in the days, I emailed to and talked to some Thrustmaster reps, but they were unable to help…
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For example: Maxxtro PCI 5.1 soundcard
http://www.digitec.ch/ProdukteDetails2.aspx?Reiter=Bilder&Artikel=186177
Its one of some you can have…
And for connection… maybe that was my mistake… I had an USB to PS/2 dadaptor and then PS/2 to DIN… Maybe that is the reason it did not work… but you will not find actual mainboards with DIN keyborad connector…
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I just ordered a Rockfire RM-203 analog game port to USB converter adapter today. It is supposed to arrive next Friday. I also have a Saitek X53 on order from Newegg since Wednesday and it still hasn’t shipped and I wonder if they actually have them in stock. I own two analog programmable Thrustmaster FLCS TQS stick and throttles. One set has never been used and may be in the original boxes. I wasn’t going to pay for a USB version then or now.
So has anyone had any success converting their analog stick to USB???
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Hello Blue Storm
In response to your question:
Would you or anyone else know also where I could lay my hand on one of the EPROM that Thrustmaster made for the 1st gen F-16 FLCS so they coud handle the TQS ?
Even Bob Church, the guy that developed the older FLCS/TQS upgrade chips recommends that the best solution is a newer HOTAS setup whether that be TM or any other setup (other HOTAS products are available
www.ch-hangar.com/forum/index.php/topic/6789-wtb-swf22-and-swtqs-chipskits/ -
I don’t know it’s work or not with the F 16 FLCS+TQS but if someone can soldering and re-wire those , then it would be good.
If someone has information more this panel , there interested in me too.
http://realsimulator.com/html/fusba.htmlOr re-wiring this panel:
http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=94&products_id=204 -
The rockfire adapter works great with my FLCS/TQS. Also works with Suncom Talon/SFS . Im currently trying to program the FLCS/TQS. Think i need to boot in to DOS to do this.
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Here is a site about using old Thrustmaster gameport joysticks on modern computers.
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Good to hear. Thanks. I’m still waiting to receive mine. I’ve been searching other Forms and finding nothing about this. In 15 years since the switch to USB Thrustmaster should have developed a converter. 20 years ago there were dedicated IDE cards you could run a entire Falcon 3 or 4 cockpit with. Talk about dropping the ball, poor build quality and profiteering. Unbelievable. Everyone knew USB was coming and being implemented in 1996. It won’t be long before we can design, print out the parts and build our own computer peripherals.
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I made a an mistake replying to Jetlag in the way that I did and have deleted it. See Jetlag and my replies for further details.
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Very impressive. Thank you very much.
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I just got my stick and throttle working now. I have my usb adapter set to mode 2. I made a usb stick dos bootable and was able to run the thrustmaster software that loads the joystick. I currently got all buttons working on both the flcs and tqs. The radar elevation and rangeknobs dont work yet, but i think thats a matter of programming. Now i only have to change the button asignements to fit the 4.33 keyboard layout. Good luck and let me know how it works out for you.
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That is a very nice reply to my now known to be misdirected statement. I apologize for directing that statement at you and will delete it. Thank you for going as far out of your way as you have to further and most thoroughly clarify your stance.
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Thanks RegNullifier you are a gent - I will also delete my last reply to you so that we do not have any public trace remaining
Edit: Done!
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Hi all,
I still own ThrustMaster F-16 TQS + FLSC but with Bob Church’s new chips inside.
Will that work with Rockfire RM-203 ?
Thanks for info in advance!
Leo “Apollo11”
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Don’t hold me to it but I believe it does (unless the Bob Church mod needed something other than the usual Games Port). You use it on setting 1. For around €15 it’s got to be worth a try.
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Hi all,
Will do - thanks for replaying!
Leo “Apollo11”
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Hi all,
I just got my stick and throttle working now. I have my usb adapter set to mode 2. I made a usb stick dos bootable and was able to run the thrustmaster software that loads the joystick. I currently got all buttons working on both the flcs and tqs. The radar elevation and rangeknobs dont work yet, but i think thats a matter of programming. Now i only have to change the button asignements to fit the 4.33 keyboard layout. Good luck and let me know how it works out for you.
How is it working now (after few weeks)?
Any experience to share?
Leo “Apollo11”