Falcon 4 installation & BMS 4.33 U1
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Does the setup process remain in the taskmanager? or does it truly abort?
No, it stays at task manager but doing nothing. Stays like frozen. CPU use 0% as Ratfink says.
Edit: After this post I saw Miltiades one and issue solved!
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I went in safe mode as Miltiades sayes and the installation went smooth at the end!!! Not run as admin and with out compatibility mode changes. Just went at safe mode, insert the cd and start the installation.
So that was Solved the Falcon 4 installation issue.
Thank you guys for your support!!!Cheers
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I went in safe mode as Miltiades sayes and the installation went smooth at the end!!! Not run as admin and with out compatibility mode changes. Just went at safe mode, insert the cd and start the installation.
So that was Solved the Falcon 4 installation issue.
Thank you guys for your support!!!Cheers
DanaosSounds good when an other user have it installed ;).
Now enjoy it…
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Yeap safe mode on Win10 64bit worked ok for falcon 4.0. Installed it from HDD. BMS 4.33.1 installed ok afterwards in normal mode.
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Hi all,
unfortunately I have no luck at all. The setup.exe does not start, freeze at 0% as many here on my Win10 64. I tried every compatibility configuration and in safe mode, but also there the setup does not start after the autoexecute CD install screen (which starts setup.exe). Same thing from CD and if I copy all the stuff to HD to launch from there.
I have only one active account on my computer, the admin.
Some suggestions?
Is there an alternative installer for Falcon 4.0?
May I copy the CD files on the HD and do a .reg file exist with the registry setting to “manual” complete install?Thnx for any help you may provide me!
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edit by Netstat
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please do not post something like this ever again Frederf
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:lol: that wasn’t so quick…
Ooohhhhhh dear…sent from my Xperia Z3 compact via TapaTalk
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For those of you that saw the original content of the post by Frederf above, such as via an email notification, please be clear that deriving such information is a clear violation of the Falcon BMS EULA in that it constitutes reverse engineering a part of the code.
Posting that did not in this case result in a perma-ban ONLY because it was perhaps not clear that offering that kind of information, be it complete or incomplete, does cross line and trips the zero-tolerance policy. Let there be no further doubt that reverse engineering the game materials and the install/runtime checks and then posting information about that on the Forum (or anywhere else that comes to our attention) will result in permanent ban from this Forum.
Why are we making a big deal of this?? Good question. Falcon BMS is distributed with the permission of the Falcon 4.0 copyright owner and we can continue to enjoy that endorsement only as long as the conditions are met – in this case specifically that a viable install of Falcon 4.0 is present on any system where Falcon BMS is installed and/or run. Any deliberate attempt or even inadvertent slip that can undermine that requirement has the potential to jeopardize the BMS team’s ability to deliver to you improvements to Falcon BMS in future.
Please help us to help you: just install Falcon 4.0 as-is from the installer materials you purchased and then let it be so you can install and continue to run Falcon BMS. Minimum Falcon 4.0 installation works for a residency size of 150MB or which is peanuts in today’s disk-size-money.
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I’m sorry to add to this discussion at this point, the premise is that I did not see the post from Frederf, but may imagine that he suggested some methods to overcome my issue.
I have original material that simply do not install on my Win10, and the method of safe mode do not work either. In all cases, the provided setup.exe will not show up anything. It might be some drivers, it might be some authorization issue, it might be some reason difficult to track down. I only know that my CD works well on my smaller laptops (with XP) and on one older computer with win7. On the new one, with win10 64, it is refusing to work even in safe mode trick, and simply do not show up. I don’t think to be alone with this issue.
I respect the new policy of BMS and the copyright holder, but on the other hand, I do not understand why to not provide other method to get the install of Falcon 4.0 if a file endorsed in the past century simply do not work on some new systems, and install of the necessary condition to continue to use gratefully BMS as an extension to my Falcon 4.0 disk is pure matter of luck.
Just to be clear, if I am seeking help here on this forum is because I want to perform the install legit to the BMS directives, not to seek “other solutions” that perhaps may solve my problem immediately elsewhere. If the idea of a “manual” install of Falcon 4.0 is against the rules, I beg your pardon: but I want only to seek some solution to overcome the issues that a more than 15 old setup file is giving me on my system, and cannot think any other “conventional” methods to satisfy the new BMS requirement I have already tried. But please help me out somehow.
It is possible that I am really the only one having this problem even in safe mode?
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Starting from the materials you have in hand, what was posted does not address your situation.
Some suggestions?
Is there an alternative installer for Falcon 4.0?
May I copy the CD files on the HD and do a .reg file exist with the registry setting to “manual” complete install?You will, I’m afraid, need to figure out how to get the installer to run on your intended target machine. There are many people posting that it does work on 64-bit Win10 so at least there’s plenty of existence proof.
Pardon granted, but yes, please do not ask for alternative installers or workarounds. That discussion would absolutely cross the line and get everyone involved a perma-ban. Sorry to be the bad guy, especially when you seem to be having trouble for some inexplicable reason. However, I hope you understand that we are more or less forced to be vigilant, perhaps nearing the point of over-compensation, to preserve our ability to continue to serve the wider community.
Good luck – I’m sure there is a solution for you (unfortunately, I’m not the right person to provide the help).
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It was not my intention to provide information to facilitate any illicit behavior but merely to assist someone overcome a technical trouble during the course of normal installation. I can see how my additional insight crossed the line.
I hope stollysoft is able to successfully install, use, and enjoy BMS. It should work completely normally as I installed Falcon 4.0 from disk a few days ago on Win10x64 without the slightest problem so there is good hope for success.
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Please leave me some address to ship to you my desktop together with my Falcon CD I have, in order to let you perform the install by some magic workaround.
Is this the only suitable way to solve my problem?I beg pardon for the ironic comment in advance, but please share my feeling to not be able to play BMS due to restrictions that I feel should not apply at least to me and in my case. I have tried everything, and nothing have worked out. We may assume that players playing BMS are not standard, profane computer users: therefore trust me if I say, again, that I have tried everything, by going the right way as I intended to follow, but nothing appears to work.
I would have preferred that the development of a “modern” setup.exe to the Falcon 4.0 CD was a possible way, but I see that this is not being considered; probably because I am the only one affected by this problem. This let me feel somehow unlucky!
Nevertheless, I suggest to stop this discussion here, since, on the other hand, I feel that my problem must not affect the community and the BMS agreements. I understand perfectly the position of BMS in this matter.
Thank you for your work and efforts, really!
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Don’t know if this is relevant or helpful to anyone but back at the turn of the century Falcon 4.0 CD was very particular about the CD/CD burner drive it installed off.
In those days I often had problems with the installer sticking on reading a particular data archive off the CD or not starting at all.
One solution for Me was to have a spare non-burner type drive I could “throw” in the box or even install off a “mapped” network drive of known reliability.
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Guys there are pm’s Skype Facebook and tones of apps that you can communicate and help the guy.
But since the agreement (and before) this is not the place to post such things.sent from my Xperia Z3 compact via TapaTalk
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Please leave me some address to ship to you my desktop together with my Falcon CD I have, in order to let you perform the install by some magic workaround.
Is this the only suitable way to solve my problem?I doubt it would come to that For less than the price of shipping one could buy Falcon 4.0 in digital form. As irritating as it is to pay for a game twice, if you suspect it’s because it’s on physical CD media that you can’t install. GOG.com had a $2.50 sale but it’s current $10. Steam I hear is quite happy to offer refunds if it won’t install and is also available for purchase for a similar amount.
In fact, if you have a Steam account let me know and I’ll but you a copy. It’s $7.
There are several avenues of troubleshooting left for the disk though. First, to make sure it’s really Falcon 4.0 (not 3, Gold, Allied Force, etc.) Cleaning or polishing the disk. Trying to install it on another computer. Test copying the contents off the disk or making a copy to see if there is a particular read error (suggesting a scratch). I do have the “binder edition” CD which looks slightly different than yours. It’s possible that they are slightly different disks data-wise. Then ruling out physical errors look into user permissions like user admin rights, UAC settings, or running the setup as admin.
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I don’t think is his cd the problem. I think It’s his new pc with the win10x64 the “problem”. So he don’t need to buy a new copy of Falcon 4 in my opinion as he installed the game in older pc’s with Win XP and Win7 allready.
@stollysoft I’ll try to tell you what i did exactly an make my setup cd work.
- please follow the bellow steps to go at safe mode. Be aware of step #5 to press 4 or F4 and not 5/F5. You don’t need a network support for this installation.
1 . Press Windows logo key Windows logo key+I on your keyboard to open Settings. If that doesn’t work, select the Start button in the lower-left corner of your screen, then select Settings.
2. Select Update & security > Recovery.
3. Under Advanced startup, select Restart now.
4. After your PC restarts to the Choose an option screen, select Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Startup Settings > Restart.
5. After your PC restarts, you’ll see a list of options. Select 4 or F4 to start your PC in Safe Mode.
- Before went to safe mode I had the cd in drive.
- Before went to safe mode I turn off the box at “Run this program in compatibility mode for:” for setup.exe and autorun
- In safe mode I execute the setup.exe direct from cd. The autorun didn’t start.
- I installed the Falcon 4 in diferent disk than C:\ with out problem (I choosed my other SSD drive E:).
- The installation went smooth and took around 5 minutes. In every installation screen I just clicked next without check or unchek any boxes except where to install the game (drive e:\ for me).
- UAC was disabled before enter safe mode.
- I have one user account in my Win10x64 pc and this account is the admin (ofcourse)
- I right click on setup.exe and run it as administrator.
- My original Falcon 4 CD is like brand new. The surface is like a mirron. Without scratches or fingertips.
- Pls check the attached photo bellow and veriffy that you have the Falcon 4 and not other versions of Falcon. I know you have this one but lets do a Frederf’s check :)) .
If the above don’t work for you (please try in ones more following the above step by step) then try in safe mode to change the compatibility mode (try them all).
If I come with something else I’ll keep you posted.
P.S. I know that feeling were something work fine for everyone and not for me, but also I respect the lines I have to not cross for make it work.
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What you are experimenting here is a well known limitation introduced in Windows 10.
This should Be added to the install procedure:
Later versions of the F4 CD were copy protected using “Safedisk”. this tool is no longer supported in Windows 10 and the software will not install.
A search of the web will provide you with plenty of solutions and workarounds, some legal, some not. The consensus is almost universal. Get yourself a not copy protected version and one of the best place for it is GoG.
Lucky us F4 is there.
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Thank you all for your help!
I wanted only to state here that I did finally succeed to install Falcon on my computer using my original CD and respecting the BMS rules; but please do not ask me further details on the procedure
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Rock on, happy flying.