Livrot Mic Command - Preview Release
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All registered LMC users have been upgraded to ‘owner’ state.
I will repeat this every Sunday/Monday for some weeks.So simply register on livrot.com to use LMC.
Until being upgraded, use temporary licenses.cheers,
Torvil -
I AM HAVING A difficult time getting this to work with Falcon BMS. It works in notepad but as soon as I start falcon (command does not go trough…no effect), it a no go. I’m looking for a single key from a keyboard source to open the mike as I speak the command and close when I release. If anyone can share a sample of what the hotkey setup should loo like, it would be appreciated!
Thanks
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You are using the latest version (1.170408 ) of LMC, right?
Try running BMS in windowed mode.
Or right click on the mic hotkey button in LMC and select ‘device bound’.
Or try recording the third mouse button as the mic hotkey. Eventually set this hotkey to ‘device bound’ if needed.
Or try connecting a gamepad/joystick and use one of its buttons for the mic.Hope any of these helps,
Livrot -
No luck. My configuration is probably messed up, Ill try creating a new profile, will that reset the setting to “default” ?
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No. The settings are kept, as you normally have everything set up according to your needs and preferences.
To restore the default settings, load the ‘crash_course_profile’ from the LMC folder (Menu/Files/Open LMC folder - copy it to the desktop and open it, then create a new profile).Make sure not to use a key that is used in your BMS keyfile! - Try the pause key for example.
Another idea: right click on the mic hotkey and set it to ‘Windows System’ hotkey. Then record it again as ‘WIN(windows key) + V’. -
Hi Livrot,
After several months away from BMS, I miss it too much so I decided to regrap the stick.
I installed the new version of LMC, loaded my last working and fine tuned profile and things didn’t work :(.
Do I have to rewrite a profile from the beginning with this new version ? :-?My last working LMC version was v1_15_0130_136.
I decided to reinstal v1_15_0130_136, but as I upgraded my computer, I needed a new registration key. But it appears that your system is not able to deliver a new key for an old version. Is there a way to obtain one as creating a new profile is time consuming and I can’t imagine fly without your fantastic software ?Cheers
Windblow -
Helo Wingedsky,
I am sorry, but this would mean a lot of work for me - and it would take weeks to provide a solution for older versions.
Another user has already pointed out that artificial LMC keypresses do not reach BMS,
while testing with notepad showed no problems.Can you confirm this?
I did load your profile (from livrot.com) in LMC (V1.170408 ) and would suggest, to try the following after loading your profile:
click settings/hotkey/‘Advanced & Global …’
in ‘Global Windows System Hotkey Changer’
click ‘erase’, ‘OK’
then ‘convert to Low Level’now to be able to press the hotkeys using just one hand
record ‘F5’ + ‘F6’ for the mic hotkey and ‘F1’ + ‘Escape’ for the stop hotkey.To trigger these hold the first key(F5) while pressing the second(F6).
I tested this and the ‘press while talk’ mic mode does as desired until releasing ‘F6’Please tell me more about ‘things didn’t work’, so that I can repair it.
Regards,
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Hi Torvil,
I tried your suggestion above and nothing better.
I have begin to try studyng in depth LMC.
Unfortunately, after several hours reading the manual and testing (at least 5 or 6 ) I am still not able to use lmc in this version.PTT seems not working as soon as you click on an other application than LMC
I tried “my first command” as explained in p17, automatic record stop delay doesn’t work, need tto use the stop Temporary macro Hotkey. I tried Various ranges. it is working when registering hotkeys in settingsWell, I really feel desapointed with this version.
I would like to know if, in this communauty or others one as Arma3, some one can use lmc in game. Please give us some feedback.
AND PLEASE, I would really appreciate been able to run my old version v1_15_0130_136.
I have found some other weird things, as for example exporting files in txt or html or xml, with as result a txt file (or html or xml) with lmc extension …
With microphone always on, I can write a “say fuel” command" on a txt file only one time, even if speech recognition is ok (more than 90%) …Maybe you should write for basic use a step by step guide on how to create a vocal command for BMS use as you did at the beginning !!!
With this start point, for sure I will be able to write a full profile.I tested some temporary macro fonction as describe in your guide, I feel very impressed by the result, but really, I fell completely lost for BMS…
Sorry for these words TORVIL and please, let me know if some one here can run a basic profile on this new version of LMC, and if yes, please, share it !
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Hello Wingedsky,
perhaps jumping from 2015 jan to 2017 april (6 versions of LMC later) may be at the origin of most of your troubles.
Please try opening the LMC folder from the menu and right click + drag the LMC crash course profile to your desktop.
Close LMC and double click on that profile to reopen LMC with that profile.
Doing so should bring the settings file of LMC up to date.
Then open your profile with the ‘load profile without settings’ icon (shows a folder with a red arrow)
to load the commands of your profile without the old settings of your profile.
Switch to PTT now if you like.
Try to use the mic hotkey recorded in these settings hold ‘F8’ and press ‘m’.
It works fine here (in notepad and paint).
If it does not work in BMS, try running BMS in ‘window’ mode once for a test, please.Did you read the ‘record elementary LMC hotkeys’ part of the quick start guide in the new manual and the links provided at the end of that section
(the new eater mode)? If not, please do so.I do not have much time ATM, but as soon as I got some I install BMS and upload a profile that is up to date for LMC usage with BMS.
Regards,
Torvil -
Thanks for the answer and advices Torvil.
I followed your instructions, and yes PTT is working and phrases are recognized BUT in NotePad I have a multiple “m” wrinted before the “action”
here is the result in Notepad for “Tanker request fuel” in PTT mode: “mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy&” plus the green LED light flashing …
hummmmmmmm
some progress here but It is not yet a working profile.EDIT1 : As I want to built a “pur” profile, I decided to clear all contents of the following collums : text 1 to 4 and CONSTANTS.
THe green LED light doesn’t not appear now …
some progress
My confidence level of recognition is about 90%EDIT2 : After several uses of PTT with notepad, microphone doesn’t shut down …
And when I try to reload my new saved profile I have an ERROR message :
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Thank you Wingedsky for all your feedback!
I will look into these errors.For the time being the mic hotkey when used in PTT or PTD mode (when pressed long)
should be a single key - that key can not be used for anything else while the profile is loaded in LMC - try the ‘Pause’ key (2nd to the right of the screenshot key), please.You could also record the fourth mouse button or a joystick button for it if you can sacrifice one button for it.
Alternatively you could check the ‘listen once’ mode in which you just hit the hotkey-combo shortly before every phrase.
This way the keys used in the LMC hotkey-‘key combination’ like F8+m can be used ordinarily in BMS still (at least I hope so …. )
You then have the time to say your phrase LMC waits till a phrase is recognized in that mode.I hope that this helps a bit.
Regards,
Torvil -
Hi Livrot,
Here is what I did this night :Open the crash_course_profile_V03. lmc as indicated in your post #396 to initialize the settings.
Changed in Settings/microphone from toggle to PTT.
Changed in settings/Hotkeys {F8}m to {Pause} as recommanded in your last post
Closed the settings window
Tried to PTT mode by Maintening Pause key down 2 times, LMC Window is the active one. PTT goes from start to stop with just Pause pressed and as you will see in the log file, listening is at the end On , but I don’t press pause key …I Tried With an other application active than LMC : nothing happen ! and nothing inthe Log windows of course.
here is the log file
PTT isn’t working at all with me and It is one of the most important fonctionality I need.Torvil,
Perhaps you should think about 2 settings levels for LMC user as the last version of LMC is very powerfull, but for sure has too much power for a simulator use as BMS, ARMA or others…the first one, in expert settings, would be the last version (2017)
the second one, normal settings, would be more simple and accessible to be used as a compagnion for a game (the 2015 version I mentionned had enough fonctionalities to be used as expected in a simulator. I really enjoyed this stage of development !)I think that nobody here would like to read hours and test more hours a very very powerfull software with a lot of fonctionalities only for games. Your Soft is very complex and need a lot of energy to make it running in addition of BMS, which is itself very complex too. Fortunatly, TARGET is much friendly use, otherwise I think my brain will explode …
Sorry for theses hard words, as you know I really love your job, I am very interested in making LMC running, but since I decided to fly again BMS I have Spend all my time trying to have a voice control software working with BMS without any success.
It is really very very frustating !
With all my consideration and my best regardsBenoit “Windblow”
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The pause key was no good idea, sorry.
I did a quick test with the ‘<’ key and it works.
BUT you have to turn ‘key repeat’ off in the ‘Advanced & Global Hotkey Settings’ of LMC. (concerns only LMC hotkey recognition not the system)Works in notepad at least.
I hope this fixes it for you (and everyone else having the same issue).Your ideas and suggestions are always welcome Wingedsky!
cheers,
Torvil -
I confirm that PTT is working nice with ‘<’ key and repeat off.
BUT if i try with NUMLOCK (unused key in BMS), PTT is activated only when LMC is tha active program.
As I try to run PTT with notepad active, nothing hapened, except the “Key repeat events have been filtered out” on the OSD -
Noted. I look into this when I have some time.
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Hi Torvil,
Here are som more feedback.
I tested some examples as describe in LMC manual and :
*Artificial Speech Feedback p44 :
Error : Desired voice not available
green led flashing until clicking ok on error window*Sound File Playback : in macro event builder and course, confusion between double2, double3, int2 and int3…
*Open / Run File p46 : event #1 step3. ‘param 1 data type’ select ‘bool’
doesnt exists in macro event builder (same in evnt#6 and #8 above)Some others strange behaviour :
- Maybe the lmc-temp_folder should be deleted even iwhen an error occured!
-Errorlog doesn’t show all crashes. LMC crashed at least 2 times as i tried to resize le editor windows, and nothing writen in the Error log file
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It is impossible to load directly a working and saved profile. The only way to load a profile I saved is to open first LMC then open the profile without settings. It is very anoying !
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I was used to use 2 profiles when running BMS, 1 for UHF, the other for VHF, with 2 LMC program running. I program my Warthog with target with 2 events on each UHF and VHF button : 1 is DX and the second event is the hotkey for emulating PTT in LMC. Today, I can run BMS (in window or fullscreen mode, no matter) and talk with 1 profile, the Hotkey used is ‘'.
As ‘Verr Num’ is not working with LMC as PTT hotkey, I would like to make the 'CTRL’ hotkey as my second PTT. In LL-eater HK, I can’t make it running with Target. Any advice?
As soon as I will make my 2 pofiles running I will post them here. All placeholders and synonyms are working fine, I had to erase all responses from my 2015 profile.
As recommanded in the manual if using a CRTL key, I tried to make a LL HK with down and up events. But once I register {CTRL}* when I try to edit it, I can’t hit the ‘eat key up event’ … ?
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thanks a lot!
did you try and select another voice in settings/sounds/command feedback already?
the profiles I saved like the crash course profile could be loaded directly by clicking on them (when lmc is not running - do you mean with lmc being started already?)
if the key release events have not been recorded ‘eat key up’ can not be selected for that hotkey. (if you could please tell me which page of the manual recommends this for LL hotkeys using ctrl, I would like to take a look at that part)
I will look into all this as soon as possible.
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Hi Livrot
here is some more feedback.
It seems that, sometimes, with no logical behaviour, LMC doens’t play the macro, even if the LOG indicates that it does (and after speech recognition feedback indication of course).
It applies not only in game but with NotePad too.
I would say that it appears in around 20% cases, but with no real mesure of the phenomena -
Hi.
One more question. I made a file combining BMS and DCS. I want to integrate the frame per second counter in DCS but can’t find the right key in Livrot from the dropdown list. When I set left control with break key (Pause) it doesn’t work. Using the event monitor of TARGET, the right key is named control-break. I didn’t found such a key in the dropdown list.