Pc strength question
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I know it’s more than $200 but my recommendation is a WH stick…. or a modded Cougar if you can find one for cheap.
Obviously, these recommendations assume you’re serious about Falcon… if you’re just “testing the waters” or checking if you still have the desire to fly, then I understand you’ll want a cheaper stick, but I don’t have much experience here…Find a cheap modded Cougar? That’s equal to winning the lottery.
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A good entry level stick and throttle has been a bit of a unicorn for the flight sim world for a while and just another un needed barrier for people looking to get started with flight sims. But recently Thrustmaster released the T.16000 at $100 cnd and I think this fills that gap nicely. I have not had any hands on time with it but reviews and opinions are positive it might be just what you are looking for. I currently am using the discontinued X-55 myself but have allot of mixed feelings about it. But for the $200 CND I paid it was worth it. The TM Warthog is currently selling for $600 cnd and is beyond my price range unfortunately but represents one of the best flight sticks ever made. CH Products also make a no frills stick and throttle cheap but I am unsure if it is good or not.
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As stated your memory amount is plenty fine but that is a weak CPU/built in GPU for gaming. I see that you are running 1920x1080. At that resolution your performance will probably be lacking and you might have to really skimp on eye candy or drop to a lower resolution for better performance. Only testing on your end will tell how it behaves. Here is a link to Tom’s Hardware Guide on the CPU in your computer testing specifically with the built in GPU versus discrete graphics.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-a10-7800-kaveri-apu-efficiency,3899.html
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Just one thing here guys. If you have an open PCI-e slot on your motherboard, then all you would need is to get a mid range GPU ($80 or even less), and turn off the onboard GPU in the bios. Everything else on his system is fine.
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…… mid range GPU ($80 or even less), and turn off the onboard GPU in the bios. Everything else on his system is fine.
"Mid range & $80 in the same sentence ? Which planet are you ordering from ?
Mid range is from $300 to $550.
$80 will get you a good flashlight and a few weeks worth of batteries.
And besides he posted “Card name: AMD Radeon R7 Graphics” I don’t think that’s on die.
PS my bad it does have a “R7” APU
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Find a cheap modded Cougar? That’s equal to winning the lottery.
Must’ve missed quite a few sales then. That, or your local lottery doesn’t go above £300……
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A good entry level stick and throttle has been a bit of a unicorn for the flight sim world for a while and just another un needed barrier for people looking to get started with flight sims.
I think you are having too many high expectations for a HOTAS and having too low a price budget for it. You can have a cheap HOTAS, but it won’t be very good for very long. You can have a good, durable HOTAS, but it won’t be entry-level or cheap. You can’t have everything you want for the price you want, unfortunately.
For me, I would rather buy an expensive thing once and enjoy it from day 1 rather than buying a cheap thing twice or thrice and having bad experiences each time it starts going bad.
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going whole hog is worth it.
granted, you should get your feet wet first. getting a semi-disposable 30-100$ stick first and flying around for a while until you figure out whether laying down real cash for a setup may be worth it. you want to make sure at least that flight sims are really for you before you throw down 600$ or more on gear.
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"Mid range & $80 in the same sentence ? Which planet are you ordering from ?
Mid range is from $300 to $550.
$80 will get you a good flashlight and a few weeks worth of batteries.
And besides he posted “Card name: AMD Radeon R7 Graphics” I don’t think that’s on die.
PS my bad it does have a “R7” APU
Your right. I’m on a different planet……
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487347
Or try around $125 if he needs a special card for his current rig.
… and what I ment by “mid range”, was mid range for BMS. 2Gb DDR3 card would do just fine.
If the poster wanted to push his system further, then a new rig is in order. But since he wishes to simply run BMS, then his current set up would do just fine (after upgrading the GFX card of course).
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Must’ve missed quite a few sales then. That, or your local lottery doesn’t go above £300……
Show me the next one you see.
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Show me the next one you see.
Just sold an UberNXT modded one at £250 and FSSB at £350 not very long ago. Take a look at the For Sale forums to give you an idea of price ranges.
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Definitely not anywhere near “winning the lottery” territory.
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That’s $470. Not what i’d call cheap unless you consider the Warthog as cheap. He was looking for something cheap. When I said it would be like winning the lottery I was showing the long odds of finding a cheap modding Cougar under $200. Which is what the OP asked for.
So, I guess this comes down to what a person considers cheap?
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Your right. I’m on a different planet……
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487347
Or try around $125 if he needs a special card for his current rig.
… and what I ment by “mid range”, was mid range for BMS. 2Gb DDR3 card would do just fine.
If the poster wanted to push his system further, then a new rig is in order. But since he wishes to simply run BMS, then his current set up would do just fine (after upgrading the GFX card of course).
They are still barley entry level cards.
Mid level would include 1050/1060 & R570/580
Then there’s the 1070/1080s & AMD RX Vega High end cards.
Above that:
For people with plenty of liquidity we enter the arena of the 1080 Ti’s, RX Vega 64, R9 Nano, a lot more 1080 extreme & 11GB models then water-cooled cards.
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For people with plenty of liquidity we enter the arena of the 1080 Ti’s, RX Vega 64, R9 Nano, a lot more 1080 extreme & 11GB models then water-cooled cards.
My wallet wouldn’t even know what that looks like. And that’s more RAM on the GPU than I have in my rig all together… I think I’ll just sulk in the corner now
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That’s $470. Not what i’d call cheap unless you consider the Warthog as cheap. He was looking for something cheap. When I said it would be like winning the lottery I was showing the long odds of finding a cheap modding Cougar.
So, I guess this comes down to what a person considers cheap?I know it’s more than $200 but my recommendation is a WH stick…. or a modded Cougar if you can find one for cheap.
Obviously, these recommendations assume you’re serious about Falcon… if you’re just “testing the waters” or checking if you still have the desire to fly, then I understand you’ll want a cheaper stick, but I don’t have much experience here…Yeah, I guess it depends. I’d rather buy an expensive thing once and enjoy it for years than buy a cheap thing several times and get frustrated each time the cheap hardware starts to go south. For someone that is serious about Falcon, there is absolutely no way you can call a WH or a similarly-priced modded Cougar “expensive.” It is only expensive if you use it as a glorified paperweight.
$470 is still nowhere near “winning the lottery”…. now if you’re referring to the ODDS of finding a cheap, modded Cougar as opposed to the actual PRICE of such an item, then I guess I’ve won the lottery three times in under 7 years. You just have to know where to look. There was a spate of Cougars being sold on the Buy&Sell forum on this site not too long ago… eBay has them every now and again too, and I would bet other sim forums would have such sales as well.
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Ice……Read post #25 again. I edited it so you can understand better.
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Tazz said,
"My wallet wouldn’t even know what that looks like. And that’s more RAM on the GPU than I have in my rig all together… I think I’ll just sulk in the corner now "
I could afford it, but why.
Again for BMS, Shadows idea of a mid range GFX card for BMS is an 8Gb Titian. Tazz, your running a GTX760 with 2Gb RAM card. I’m sure it runs BMS quite well. So, the $80 budget GFX card I pointed out will do just fine for someone on a budget. That was my point.
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Is BMS CPU or GPU hungry?