The tutorial scripts are…
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so here i am again about to try and rekindle my interest. i think another big problem is that back when it was 1st released i could just go through all the tutorials from the original manual (which i still have) but with the new changes with mods and whatnot a lot of the stuff from the manual is outdated which is where i normally hit the brick wall.
Please read my big post #23 (above yours). You still can use the old manual for the more important stuff. If you can handle the tutorials like in the manual, you should have no problem with the new ones which came with the mod.
That is exactly why we need to write a new manual!
We got everything we need.
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There is more documentation in the works guys. As far as learning the systems go just take it slow and learn one thing at a time. Do the ramp start over and over until you have it down pat and then move on from there. It just takes time. The training scripts are not as complete as we would have liked but we just didn’t have the manpower to make them more complete. Hopefully now that BMS is out there, the community will pick things up and create whatever is needed.
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There is more documentation in the works guys. As far as learning the systems go just take it slow and learn one thing at a time. Do the ramp start over and over until you have it down pat and then move on from there. It just takes time. The training scripts are not as complete as we would have liked but we just didn’t have the manpower to make them more complete. Hopefully now that BMS is out there, the community will pick things up and create whatever is needed.
I am seriously considering starting writing a new manual/tutorial from scratch in order to somehow contribute to the community. I am not an artist/modeler/coder, but I somehow feel an obligation to somehow contribute after seeing how much time some people have devoted to BMS. I know few people who don’t want to start playing because of not only the sheer amount of new information you have to absorb, but also due to the fact that it is scattered across several manuals/pdf. I feel that the community could benefit from new members.
The upside of this process would be that I would truly master all the aspects of F16, since you can’t write a good manual/tutorial if you don’t understand it, right? The only thing holding me back from this task at the moment is how monumental it is. We are looking at several hundreds of pages of manuals.
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Why don’t just start sticking with the old tutorial manual? Please read my post #21.
A friend of mine just started out with the tutorials missions and the describtion of it, he had no problems. There is nothing monumental. It’s about how you approach things! If want to do everything step by step, why don’t you do it. Just watch the youtube/google video link about the Art of the Kill course of Falcon 3, which I posted in my big post. You do the same thing in the tutorial missions, which are described in the original manuals “Falcon 4.0 and Allied forces”, you work with the ACMI recorder… set it up to watch the recorded stuff and start to understand. You learn handling the ACMI recorder in these original manuals too. Everything is described.BTW the basics of flying will never change, no matter if documents will be released or not.
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Cabal,
First, I don’t need to study the manuals, I know most of the stuff, although I am not pro like some of the guys here. That means, I am not saying it’s not possible to start with the old manual and work your way up from there with the other manuals. It is very possible. I have done it too. All I am saying is, it is an issue for some people and this community is already so small that I think every new member counts.
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You’ll need 2 years just getting acquainted to the new specificities of BMS in some aspects.
In that time we’ll have the manual suite correctly covered! Don’t worry, we are working on it
We do have already a brand new manual that will make use of any older Falcon manual not required to read. It’s already more than hundreths of pages and it will be released soon
So be patient - it’s only two days you fly with BMS. We’ve been testing and developping it for 5 years. -
My training script does point the camera to the correct place and the text do mention the panel name and the control name.
If however, you still can’t locate the control, just hit “shift k” and it will be moved for you automatically in most cases.
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There goes my contribution. You guys are insane. I mean do you even have regular jobs?
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In times of “casual gamers”, “fast arcade stuff” and KISSed games (keep it simple stupid)… yeah it’s an issue… =
But it is how you approach the stuff… and the stuff needs to approach the newcomer too. Maybe the BMS installation somehow could direct newcomers to that “Art of the Kill” video or other videos… to keep them entertained and more motivated.@Red Dog
Thanks alot for this pic… now I’m extremly horny
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after trying the ramp start and getting stuck (couldnt find the lever at the bottom of the throttle) im seriously thinkin of skipping ramp starts altogether. it just sounds like it would get repetitive doin it over n over again.
i realise there are probably a fair few people who enjoy gon through the pre flight checks everytime but how many people DONT bother with ramp starts?
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95% of people have issues with finding it for some reason
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after trying the ramp start and getting stuck (couldnt find the lever at the bottom of the throttle) im seriously thinkin of skipping ramp starts altogether. it just sounds like it would get repetitive doin it over n over again.
i realise there are probably a fair few people who enjoy gon through the pre flight checks everytime but how many people DONT bother with ramp starts?
Sometimes you need to enter stuff in the DED pre-flight, you don’t have time to do that if you start at taxi / takeoff
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Also the hotspot, iirc, does not move with the throttle so if you have the throttle advanced or back a ways the hotspot will not line up with the switch. It still works but you have to do it a couple of times to get a feel for where the spot is. Or use the keyboard.
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I am seriously considering starting writing a new manual/tutorial from scratch in order to somehow contribute to the community.
Great idea. When do you think you’ll have it finished?
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Great idea. When do you think you’ll have it finished?
Rough guess is 7 years. Or 3-4 weeks. Depends.
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And now you know why no one else has bothered, either
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And now you know why no one else has bothered, either
Nowhere did I state I wondered why nobody bothered.
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@Red:
You’ll need 2 years just getting acquainted to the new specificities of BMS in some aspects.
In that time we’ll have the manual suite correctly covered! Don’t worry, we are working on it
We do have already a brand new manual that will make use of any older Falcon manual not required to read. It’s already more than hundreths of pages and it will be released soon
So be patient - it’s only two days you fly with BMS. We’ve been testing and developping it for 5 years.Looking forward to that! I am not saying I am starting “ab initio” but I am having a hard time figure out the weapon systems and why they do or don’t do what they do at the moment without complete documentation.
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hi fellow newbies, firstly I guess we really need a newbie section/thread somewhere in this forum, there will be always a newbie and it’s supposed to be for the good of this whole uber hardcore simulation community, not to make it more alienated…
then IMHO, newbies shouldn’t really be bothered with ramp start… it’s way too long if you do all the check, you could actually skip these checks you know, I’ve seen a tutorial for Free Falcon ramp start that don’t do these checks and the F16 will still fly as good as those who have these obsessive compulsive disorder thing lol (no offense, just kidding) or you could jump to learn other things, like navigations, weapons systems, etc…
2ndly as I said in my thread, this sim need single missions like those found in other sims, so newbies can get a more focused approach with these single missions, CAP mission, SEAD mission or even base transfer mission so that newbies can learn what need to be done for a specific mission…
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I’m in the early stages of getting to know BMS. I have flown Falcon on and off for many years. I think the first was Falcon 3.0 on my old Amiga!
If it will work I’m intending to install and run this on a dedicated server I have. Clearly there is plenty to learn and it’ll be easier learning with others. If anyone is interested in learning in multiplayer, I’d be happy to join them.