F-16C - Pulling High Gs
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If the G limiter was turned off, how many Gs max could a clean F-16C pull at 550 knots? Would it be able to pull 13 or 14 Gs?
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If the G limiter was turned off, how many Gs max could a clean F-16C pull at 550 knots? Would it be able to pull 13 or 14 Gs?
Are we speaking about sustained or instantaneous G load?
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Hi Molnibalage,
I was asking about an instantaneous turn.
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Hi Molnibalage,
I was asking about an instantaneous turn.
As I know 13-14G is definitelypossible. Even the much weaker MiG-21bis was able to do 12G. One Hungarian pilot pulled such high G with MiG-21bis during a training dogfigth. The airframe suffered such deformations and developed cracks, therfore it had to be dismantled the whole airframe wing replacement would not be enough.
F-15 was able to perform even higher if the video contains valid info.
Was a comment 5 years ago from aardy76 below the video but today is now missing from YT comments somehow. Was mentioned an Eagle in 33th TFW at Eglin. On a new F-15 Eagle only with 150 FH the accelerometer registered 12.6G and the monitoring and warning system registered at some locations on the airframe 15G. Was another case in '77 or '78 when 16G was registered. The deformation was not was visible by naked eye but it could be measured. After the inspection the wing was replaced.
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So if a pilot was flying a clean F-15A at sea level at 550 KIAS, and he pulled all the way back on the control stick, do you think he could get 14 or 15 Gs at that airspeed?
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Something I’ve always wondered - if I was piloting an X-Wing or a TIE Fighter and had the Ions turned up to 100 percent, if I pulled hard on the stick would I feel any G at all? Neither has a rotational artificial gravity generator onboard, so I reckon not…
Discuss please!
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Something I’ve always wondered - if I was piloting an X-Wing or a TIE Fighter and had the Ions turned up to 100 percent, if I pulled hard on the stick would I feel any G at all? Neither has a rotational artificial gravity generator onboard, so I reckon not…
Discuss please!
It’s OT but yes, you would feel G forces. It’s an acceleration, that’s why you feel it. Fly straight in space = 0 Gs due to no acceleration. Make a turn = acceleration in a direction = X amount of Gs. Not too much to discuss there…
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If the G limiter was turned off, how many Gs max could a clean F-16C pull at 550 knots? Would it be able to pull 13 or 14 Gs?
Although the F-16 is a 9G aircraft up to a certain weight there is a (fairly standard) 150% margin in there so under the same conditions the airframe should be good up to ~13.5G.
I am thinking the only people that know for sure are those that oversaw any test programs……and even then with structural tests they didn’t test it over the margin apparently…so a bit lost as to why they would bother doing such a thing.
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Although the F-16 is a 9G aircraft up to a certain weight there is a (fairly standard) 150% margin in there so under the same conditions the airframe should be good up to ~13.5G.
I am thinking the only people that know for sure are those that oversaw any test programs……and even then with structural tests they didn’t test it over the margin apparently…so a bit lost as to why they would bother doing such a thing.
I was curious about what KIAS at sea level it would take in order for the F-16 to be able to attain a high G like 12 or 13.
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I plugged in 550 knots, 1.225kg/m3, CL 1.7 (38 alpha), and divided by 20,000 lbs. It says 26g.
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…and after they recover the body…
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If the G limiter was turned off, how many Gs max could a clean F-16C pull at 550 knots? Would it be able to pull 13 or 14 Gs?
Easily!
Something I’ve always wondered - if I was piloting an X-Wing or a TIE Fighter and had the Ions turned up to 100 percent, if I pulled hard on the stick would I feel any G at all? Neither has a rotational artificial gravity generator onboard, so I reckon not…
Discuss please!
Well, you would be feeling Gs pushing you back in your seat from the thrust, as the vehicle is accelerating forwards - and any turn would push you opposite the direction of turn. So if you pull back on the stick, you will be pressed down into your seat.
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the Wings will snap off at 22.5 G’s FYI.
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I have a morbid curiosity how you managed to find that out.
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I have a morbid curiosity how you managed to find that out.
Quote Maple’s sig -
F-16E/F BLK 60 Avionics Tech , UAE- PRESENT
158th Fighter Wing Burlington, VT 2002-2011
F-16C+ Avionics 2007-2011 BLK 32
F-16C Weapons 2002-2007 BLK 25Real life teachings, probably from people who know the jet and it’s capabilities more than most would get my bet.
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I have a morbid curiosity how you managed to find that out.
…he must have recovered the aforementioned body.
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I thought he meant in BMS.
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…simulated aforementioned body.