Falcon BMS Alternative Launcher (Easy Setup, Keep Joystick Assignments)
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Hi, i am using this program for the first time this evening…i configured the axis commands but i cannot find a way to load an already done config file for the keybinding, and if i load the one i have (morphine profile for hotas warthog) in falcon in works only in the first minutes of the mission…
i don’t want to rebind everything again in alternative launcher but i’d like to use it because otherwise with the standard one everytime i have to change the sorting order and reload all the files.
ThanksSorry, currently there is no way to load already done config except for keyboard bind. You have to bind them again in alternative launcher so that it will save setup you made in its own save data.
I think I can make import function but It will take a time and I am busy on this weekends. I’ll try. -
Sorry, currently there is no way to load already done config except for keyboard bind. You have to bind them again in alternative launcher so that it will save setup you made in its own save data.
I think I can make import function but It will take a time and I am busy on this weekends. I’ll try.Hi thanks for your reply……with morphine profile will be easy for me to do the stick and throttle binds, but if you tell me how to import keyboard binds i will apprecciate…thank you
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To import keyboard bind. Just copy the keyfile to User/Config and remame it to “BMS - FULL.key”
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Hi, i am using this program for the first time this evening…i configured the axis commands but i cannot find a way to load an already done config file for the keybinding, and if i load the one i have (morphine profile for hotas warthog) in falcon in works only in the first minutes of the mission…
i don’t want to rebind everything again in alternative launcher but i’d like to use it because otherwise with the standard one everytime i have to change the sorting order and reload all the files.
ThanksOkay, I have made an import function for you.
https://github.com/chihirobelmo/FalconBMS-Alternative-Launcher/releases/tag/v1.08
- Import Stock BMS Setup when no .xml file for joystick setting found.
I also published description about BMS axis binary file.
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I just found out about this while researching how to best configure my brand-new T.16000M joystick+throttle combo. Excellent tool!
The only outstanding issue I see is the hat limitation on the second device (coolie hat on the throttle in my case), which I understand is a game issue. It’d be ideal if the launcher could somehow mask hat inputs as keyboard presses to work around that. It’s rather strange that this problem exists to begin with, considering the other two 4-way clusters on the throttle are pretty much hats themselves, and they work just fine.
In the meantime, I might have to sacrifice CMS or DMS to allow me to look around the cockpit without having to grab the mouse. I don’t have TrackIR, unfortunately (and it seems it costs as much as this HOTAS set, minus the rudder pedals).
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I just found out about this while researching how to best configure my brand-new T.16000M joystick+throttle combo. Excellent tool!
The only outstanding issue I see is the hat limitation on the second device (coolie hat on the throttle in my case), which I understand is a game issue. It’d be ideal if the launcher could somehow mask hat inputs as keyboard presses to work around that. It’s rather strange that this problem exists to begin with, considering the other two 4-way clusters on the throttle are pretty much hats themselves, and they work just fine.
In the meantime, I might have to sacrifice CMS or DMS to allow me to look around the cockpit without having to grab the mouse. I don’t have TrackIR, unfortunately (and it seems it costs as much as this HOTAS set, minus the rudder pedals).
Exactly, it is BMS limitation POV hats on the device that is not assigning pitch/roll to any axis are unable to detect. So I am hiding those binding from the key list when the device is not assigned to pitch/roll.
I was also thinking about implementing keyboard emulation to the app. It might be hard study requiring work for me. I try when I feel like it.I don’t own new TWCS throttle but I suppose most common joystick one hat switch as POV and other hat switches as DX buttons. POV is mainly used for Position of View change so it’s called “POV”.
This is property window of HOTAS WARTHOG STICK.
I am pushing TMS forward and TRIMHAT forward same time.
(7) lighting up means TMS forward is recognized as DX7 and TMS right/down/left would be DX8,9,10
Up arrow on the right circle means POV hat switch is pressed to up position which is TRIM HAT on the WARTHOG. -
Hi there,
I am still having problems assigning the POV on the TQS to zoom in and out.
The assignment shows up below the main screen, but I can’t see the bindings in the key mapping screen.
Is there anything to solve this issue?
Zooming in and out with the mousewheel is rather annoying.
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TQS … Do you mean HOTAS WARTHOG THROTTLE or something else?
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TQS … Do you mean HOTAS WARTHOG THROTTLE or something else?
Throttle Quadrant System
yeap that’s how they call it the short way.
Everything in AF must have an abbreviation… everything.
By AF I mean AirForce… cause I saw you got started… so settle back… :lol: Not u chihirobelmo in general… -
I know what TQS means Throttle Quadrant System as I already wrote so on the label of the app.
I could not guess what exact device ApeX89 is using so I asked. -
Jup, it was the Throttle Quadrant System
I should’ve pointed that out.
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I am still having problems assigning the POV on the TQS to zoom in and out.
There is no POV on F-16 TQS.
There is no POV on any callbacks that relates to F-16 TQS in BMS. POV is what can be on actual joystick devices.
There is no joystick Device that has POV and named TQS. Saitek Throttle Quadrant System is the only device I know possibly called TQS but has no POV.
You can not assign the POV on the TQS. So If what called “TQS” in your post does not mean any actual joystick or something else I have no idea what you mean. -
Hey there,
sorry, my bad. I was actually referring to the Coolie Switch on the Throttle of my Warthog, which I can not assign to work for zooming in and out in 3D.
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Hey there,
sorry, my bad. I was actually referring to the Coolie Switch on the Throttle of my Warthog, which I can not assign to work for zooming in and out in 3D.
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Great app, though i dont really understand how to use the modifier here. I got X-55 pinky switch as DX shift (registered as DX 5 under the stick tab), then i enable keycombo/pinkyshift option and bound all my CMS with my unshited DMS buttons. Flew the instant action, DMS works fine, pressed the pinky shift, it goes into CMS but it wont function back to DMS normally even if i pressed pinkyshift because i was under the assumption that its a toggle button and not press and hold.
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Assign both DX3 and shifted DX3 to pinky shift. Shifted DX3 will switch back you to unshifted layer.
PinkShift is “press and hold” button but also becomes a toggle button when you did not invoke any shifted DX assignment. (ie: you press DX3 and release it without pressing any other DX).
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Arigatou Chihiro-san, im very grateful.
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First off, thank you for putting so much work into this amazing tool!
I am struggling to get your launcher to recognize an existing custom keyfile. I’m starting with a clean BMS install, and no matter what profile I select and apply in game, the launcher defaults to “BMS - Full”. Is this normal behavior?
I also tried renaming my keyfile “BMS - Full” in case the launcher is just looking for a file by that name. But unfortunately even with this approach, my keybindings are not the ones that the launcher shows for “BMS - Full”. Is there a way to load and modify an existing keyfile?
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I am struggling to get your launcher to recognize an existing custom keyfile. I’m starting with a clean BMS install, and no matter what profile I select and apply in game, the launcher defaults to “BMS - Full”. Is this normal behavior?
This is the way the app works. The app will overwrite and select BMS - FULL.key file no matter what keyfile you have choosen as your profile.
I also tried renaming my keyfile “BMS - Full” in case the launcher is just looking for a file by that name. But unfortunately even with this approach, my keybindings are not the ones that the launcher shows for “BMS - Full”. Is there a way to load and modify an existing keyfile?
That is strange. Can you upload your “BMS - FULL.key”?
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Ok, good to know it defaults to “BMS - Full”. Here is a link to the keyfile that I can’t get recognized inside the launcher-
https://www.dropbox.com/s/owq94fyyycpmgaq/BMS%20-%20Full.key?dl=0