Tutorial video: Full ILS approach procedure
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Hey guys, I made a tutorial video showing you how to read and understand approach charts, and techniques for IFR flying and approach flying in the F-16. It clocks in at about 30 minutes and moves quickly. Enjoy!
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Very nice…
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Very nice
Thanks
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Nice video…
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I think I’ll be watching that several times over the next few weeks…
Thank you VERY much for that…
It is something I’ve wanted to learn for a very long time.
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Love it LOVE IT!! To **RISCfuture…**Esxcellent done video but its missing an important thing that noobs just do not know.You probably could edit it in or at least the first one I encountered.When you went to set altimeter you overlooked the issue that noobs do not know about QFE QNE QNH.So you called tower and then pressed one but did not explain which one.I have no idea what will happen if you chosse wrong one but from what I gather you can be off somehow.
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True. I called for QNH; if you use any other altimeter setting you will be at the wrong altitudes during your approach and may even impact terrain! So be sure to use QNH only; the other two settings are never requested by U.S. pilots.
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Nice video Stretch. The 30 mins flew by.
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True. I called for QNH; if you use any other altimeter setting you will be at the wrong altitudes during your approach and may even impact terrain! So be sure to use QNH only; the other two settings are never requested by U.S. pilots.
You have to forgive me as I am learning as I go along.Just reading about QNH and altimeter.A simple question is when you change the altimeter does it change the info on the hud?Also I am setting all the info correct and when I ask tower for QNH I get no response.I also get no response for any other questions and at one point they started shooting missiles at me.So am I doing a Forest Gump here practicing ILS landings at Pusan AB?Is a message gonna come back saying"are you for real we are you enemy idiot"LOL
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OK, a few things to check:
1. Yes, the HUD altimeter will change with the altimeter setting if your HUD is set to display barometric altitude (which it is by default).
2. Make sure you have the correct tower frequency dialed in to either of your radios.
3. Try using a training TE where no one shoots missiles at you. -
Wow really thanx m8… this is first class TOP GUN training.
You lost me at the ark (lol arc I meant) and the crs playing around, but I have to watch it for a third time and maybe I’ll get it. You just change the crs to stay inside the 12nm dme but when do you change it is there a self knowing rule like every when? depends on the speed? let’s say the speed is constant as u say about 250? than what?
What I mean about TOP GUN is that you get the whole idea and why u do it. If such vids could be made and on tactics would be just great.
With vids like this guys like me that don’t have time for vsqads can get closer to the real thing… -
Did that really last 30mins? WOW…… amazing.
Thanks Stretch, top job.
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Stretch, this is a fantastic video. With your permission, I would like to incorporate it into our training program.
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@Arty: When flying an arc, I set the CRS (course) knob every time I intercept the radial. You can tell when you’ve intercepted the radial because the CDI lines up with the radial arrow on the HSI. The moment the two line up, I increase or decrease the course knob by another 10 degrees (depending on which direction around the arc I am flying).
Basically, here’s the situation as you approach a particular radial when flying an arc:
And here’s the situation when you cross that radial:
In this case we’re flying clockwise, so we’d increase the CRS knob by 10° each time we passed a radial. If we were flying the arc counterclockwise, we’d decrease by 10°.
You only use the DME indicator to make sure you’re on the arc, and not to the left or right of it. If you’re right on the correct DME distance, you’d fly each part of the arc perpendicular to the radial course arrow (as shown in the above pictures). If you were too close or too far, you’d fly a wider or narrower circle to get back on the correct arc.
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Stretch, this is a fantastic video. With your permission, I would like to incorporate it into our training program.
Go ahead. It’s released under the standard YouTube share-anywhere license.
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1. Yes, the HUD altimeter will change with the altimeter setting if your HUD is set to display barometric altitude (which it is by default).
Great,thanks.
2. Make sure you have the correct tower frequency dialed in to either of your radios.
Pretty sure its correct.I hear my own voice and that doesn’t happen when your not dialed in right?Maybe there is no tower in quick missions since you have unlimited weapons etc?
3. Try using a training TE where no one shoots missiles at you.
I have been trying to do training missions but I spawn in a tanker for some reason.Just now I spawned in an A10 doing an F16 campaign….What I do now is use GPS to get to the airport and then ride the ILS in.The ILS is super sweet and fun for me….is FSX as detailed in navigation and ILS as F4?.Just wondering since I was thinking of buying it.
Your video and Tanit’s video though confuse me and I wonder if they are wrong.Example is Tanit’s video where he says do not chase the localizer but then does that by putting the FPM on it and is zig zagging across the sky.Aren’t we supposed to follow the steering cue on the horizon mark.I do that and it guides you right in to the ILS.That comes to your tutorial where you fly down with the dials instead of hud.There is no steer point on the dials so I wonder if you did it this way to show instrument landing only and normally you would use the HUD?Also,you did an ILS landing tutorial with extreme wind.At first I thought when you went heads up you were way off course but just now I noticed the FPM was spot on to runway.
That TACAN is too complicated right now for me.Also the TACAN DME number is always blocked with that red bar.Any idea why?I enter in correct TACAN number in HED.
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Masterpiece of first-class navigation performance
very professional lecture ….
thank you Sir
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Brilliant tutorial……understood about 30%. I need more practice:D. Have had very little experience of “heads down” flying. Last time I tried I ended up with PIO and felt giddy:(.
All the same, thank you for this.
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Pretty sure its correct.I hear my own voice and that doesn’t happen when your not dialed in right?Maybe there is no tower in quick missions since you have unlimited weapons etc?
No, you can hear your own voice even if you’re not on the correct frequency. You can’t hear anyone else though. You can’t hear your own voice if your volume is turned all the way down or the radio is off. To be extra sure, press COMM1, enter the UHF frequency for your tower (e.g., enter 2-6-7-5-0-ENTER if it’s 267.5), hit enter, verify that the frequency is shown under “UHF”, and try asking for the QNH.
I have been trying to do training missions but I spawn in a tanker for some reason.Just now I spawned in an A10 doing an F16 campaign….
Make sure you have joined a flight of F-16s. The icons on the left should be F-16s. If not, pick a different flight above.
is FSX as detailed in navigation and ILS as F4?.Just wondering since I was thinking of buying it.
FSX has an even more detailed IFR implementation. For one, there’s a larger database of navaids – more VORs, more TACANs, more ILSs, and more airports. For two, FSX also supports older (but still used) NDB-based navigation. And FSX lets you practice approaches using a KLN GPS system and a G1000 GPS system, two technologies in use on civilian aircraft.
Aren’t we supposed to follow the steering cue on the horizon mark.I do that and it guides you right in to the ILS.That comes to your tutorial where you fly down with the dials instead of hud.
If I have a working HUD, I’d certainly choose to fly with the steering cue. It’s much easier. However, it’s important to practice with the needles in case your HUD is damaged in combat.
At first I thought when you went heads up you were way off course but just now I noticed the FPM was spot on to runway.
Actually, and this is pretty bad on my part, the ILS was for the RIGHT runway, not the LEFT. If this had been real life, I would have gotten a serious talking-to from my CO and from the tower personnel. To stray onto the approach path of another runway when landing, even on an ILS landing, is a BIG no-no.
Also the TACAN DME number is always blocked with that red bar.Any idea why?I enter in correct TACAN number in HED.
In real life, not all TACANs have DME support. I’m not sure about Falcon, but my suspicion is that they all have DME in the game. However, it’s possible they don’t, and you are tuning in a TACAN without a DME transmitter. The other possibility is that you are not receiving the TACAN signal. Is it just the DME that’s covered with a red bar, or is there a red flag showing on the HSI as well? If both are flagged, then you aren’t receiving the signal. You are either too far away, or behind a mountain blocking the radio waves, or something else. (In real life some TACANs have “unusable radials” – like for instance a TACAN may not broadcast between the 160 and 180 radial… don’t know if this is modeled in BMS.)
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Thanks again RISCfuture.Got tower to respond by doing a TE mission.I do not think that QM’s have control tower working….though I could be wrong and just doing it wrong.I ask for tower to guide me in and he sends me into a mountain.Descend to 2K at heading 90 at 200kts.I do just that but the ground radar comes on and before I knew what it meant I died.For now I would like to just use tower guidance in since that Tacan looks way out of my league for now.Is the tower accurate in F4?
Also,whats the difference between inbound,request landing and emergency?