NTO Polar Vortex V2
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We tried to plan some missions but we’re flying blind… is there an easy way we can install the old one please?
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Added link to first post for the old map
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Thanks. It’s an interesting idea, to fit a real world map on there. Obviously took a lot of work. But in the end, it’s much more useful to have an accurate view of the in-game terrain & road system to plan around, imo.
How did Starrats (?) generate the original map anyways?
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Added link for download in first post, updated bmsrack.dat.
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Thanks. It’s an interesting idea, to fit a real world map on there. Obviously took a lot of work. But in the end, it’s much more useful to have an accurate view of the in-game terrain & road system to plan around, imo.
How did Starrats (?) generate the original map anyways?
Its easy to export just roads or rivers (or both) from in-game terrain and merge it over cool map u are talking about.
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Not as easy to make it look good… How do you export that stuff?
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I wouldn’t sink any more time into that map… it’s just not high enough resolution and you’ll never get the terrain to match up correctly
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you’ll never get the terrain to match up correctly
It’s about shoving out theaters as quickly as possible, why worry about insignificant things like that!!! :roll::roll::roll:
Not as easy to make it look good… How do you export that stuff?
Several tools are capable of it. Terrainview, Monsters Terrain Editor also.
C9
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Yep, it was easy to make a map of theater with a push of the button from falas` mc.
Original nto came with same maps that Luke and obi1 are trying to perfect.They did a better stretching job than i did before giving up.
As far as shoving theaters out before they are perfect, i think NTO collected enough dust over these last several years. Many people including me are glad to be able to check out this theater in its current condition. If anyone wants to help improve it, great.
But the main reason we open comunity to these old theaters( reworked) is for help. Not everyone sits on 20+ years of deving falcon.Don’t damn us for waking bms fans to nto before it is perfect. It will never be perfect.
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We have gotten some awesome missions out of these new campaigns. Flying out of Bardufoss in the mountains is ultra cool. I’m using winter textures with lots of snow and clouds.
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Looks like a COLD war!
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We have gotten some awesome missions out of these new campaigns. Flying out of Bardufoss in the mountains is ultra cool. I’m using winter textures with lots of snow and clouds.
ILS show its power.
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speaking of ILS, I made another approach chart: for Bardufoss. Tried a DME arc this time.
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Thank you for your kind words mate.
Well after some scheduled works, beautiful Nordic theater is on my list.
So yes, you will have some more nav. charts for sure!
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speaking of ILS, I made another approach chart: for Bardufoss. Tried a DME arc this time.
Just good enough to do the job until a pro like Nikos puts them outHey gza, that looks pretty good. Do you have some kind of generator or template for these charts or do you just work very tidy?
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@TwanV:
Hey gza, that looks pretty good. Do you have some kind of generator or template for these charts or do you just work very tidy?
thanks man, I like tidy I use these charts as templates:
https://avinor.no/en/ais/military/milproc
https://avinor.no/globalassets/_microsite/ais-portal/mil/endu/en_ad_2_endu_304hitac28_en.pdfedited them with adobe acrobat. But that was becoming clunky so I finished it with paint.net or photoshop
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I’d be more interested to know about Nikos’ process. Like where does he get the bms elevations, exact positions of the navaids etc
He puts out entire volumes… just look at the Nordic, ITO, and Balkans MAIP.
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I’d be more interested to know about Nikos’ process. Like where does he get the bms elevations, exact positions of the navaids etc
He puts out entire volumes… just look at the Nordic, ITO, and Balkans MAIP.
I imagine he has some kind of professional experience.Well my friend, here some infos, no secrets here
- About elevations, get them into the F-16 cockpit with baro for altimeter.
- Exact position of NavAids (means their GPS coordinates) can get from the STPT 1 (steerpoint) when they are the default terminal ones. If there are enroute NavAids, you can use Mission Commander for their GPS coordinates.
- The rest data can be retrieved from the file “stations+ils.dat”, means TACAN channel, its band and range, ATC frequencies and ILS frequencies.
- About Nav. volumes, there are also for nice POH theater and of course the “monster” Aegean stuff with Enroute charts also.
- Last about professional experience, yes. I was served here in Hellas (ex Greece) at the position of Radar Operator (military ATC) for 14 months. So a lot of real rules and stuff into my hands. This in coordination with the fact that I’m a civil engineer, makes me very strong to create this stuff.
My charts have been always created via the professional program Autodesk AutoCAD and are under scale, that makes them the best you can have!
As a note, I can tell you that it is inaccurate to get a real nav. chart and change some things (numbers/data) in order to think that you bring it close for use into Falcon BMS theaters.
The side of the NavAid in relation with the RWY, its distance from RWY threshold, the angle between the RWY centerline and the line that connects RWY threshold and NavAid are only a few things that should be exactly the same in order to can “edit” a real chart ;).
Even a variation of few degrees at the angle and you have a complete different inbound final radial.
The same counts for the GlideSlopes. In real life are not all the ILS procedures with a 3.0 deg. descent. In Falcon they are. That means that you have variations at the distance (DME) for the same altitudes!After all the previous, your ONLY way to have a “valid” perfect/safe procedure is to create it from scratch.
Nikos.
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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
/StenneG
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Well after some scheduled works, beautiful Nordic theater is on my list.
So yes, you will have some more nav. charts for sure!
Nikos.So, just can’t await (on my side).
With best regards,
Gianni.