Need help with MARKPOINT.
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B̶T̶W̶ ̶a̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶e̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶c̶u̶r̶s̶o̶r̶ ̶z̶e̶r̶o̶:̶ ̶I̶’̶v̶e̶ ̶b̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶s̶u̶r̶p̶r̶i̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶e̶n̶c̶o̶u̶n̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶g̶u̶y̶s̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶ ̶o̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶h̶o̶w̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶C̶Z̶ ̶b̶y̶ ̶p̶r̶e̶s̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶O̶S̶B̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶t̶o̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶F̶C̶R̶.̶ ̶C̶Z̶ ̶h̶a̶s̶ ̶i̶t̶s̶ ̶o̶w̶n̶ ̶H̶O̶T̶A̶S̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶t̶o̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶r̶o̶t̶t̶l̶e̶.̶ ̶I̶ ̶b̶e̶l̶i̶e̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶i̶l̶o̶t̶s̶ ̶h̶i̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶u̶m̶b̶.̶ ̶S̶o̶ ̶i̶t̶’̶s̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶ ̶i̶m̶p̶o̶r̶t̶a̶n̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶b̶o̶u̶n̶d̶,̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶’̶l̶l̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶u̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶i̶m̶e̶.̶
edit: wrong, wrong, wrong!
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BTW a note about cursor zero:
I’ve been surprised to encounter guys who only know how to CZ by pressing the OSB button on the FCR.
CZ has its own HOTAS button on the throttle. I believe the pilots hit it with their thumb. So it’s real important to have that bound, you’ll be using it all the time.I’ve heard of CZ doable with a HOTAS command, but never on the throttle though (I believe on some tapes it is TMS Aft long, or short with TGP as SOI and not in track). Do you have a source ?
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short TMS aft with TGP as SOI and not tracking is CZ. HSD OSB 10, FCD OSB 9 in some modes, are CZ. I will have to see if this works in BMS!
1.3.3.1.4.2.1.4 A hands-on capability to perform cursor zero, if the TGP is SOI, is also available. This capability resets the cursor by removing any existing cursor slews. It delivers the same results as pressing OSB 9 “CZ” on the TGP base page.
1.3.3.1.4.2.1.4.1 Short TMS aft (< 0.5 sec) performs cursor zero if the TGP is the SOI and the following modes are not selected: Area Track, Point Track, Computed Rates/INR Track, Multi-Target Track (MTT), or Combat Identification (CID) mode. When cursor slews are present, “CZ” is constantly highlighted. “CZ” de-highlights after cursor zero occurs.
There is no dedicated HOTAS button which is cursor zero in the real jet. Of course, you are free to map your own controls however you like for BMS!
EDIT: Sniped!
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BTW a note about cursor zero:
I’ve been surprised to encounter guys who only know how to CZ by pressing the OSB button on the FCR.
CZ has its own HOTAS button on the throttle. I believe the pilots hit it with their thumb. So it’s real important to have that bound, you’ll be using it all the time.Are you getting mixed up with Cursor Enable?
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short TMS aft with TGP as SOI and not tracking is CZ. HSD OSB 10, FCD OSB 9 in some modes, are CZ. I will have to see if this works in BMS!
There is no dedicated HOTAS button which is cursor zero in the real jet. Of course, you are free to map your own controls however you like for BMS!
EDIT: Sniped!
I’m pretty sure I tried this the other night after having read about it on here a while back during 4.33. It didn’t reset CZ, but I haven’t searched the 4.34 docs for this feature yet, either.
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CZ through HOTAS undocumented in BMS, from what I’ve seen - unless you bind it somewhere.
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CZ through HOTAS undocumented in BMS, from what I’ve seen - unless you bind it somewhere.
You could bind the callback, or even (crudely) the relevant MFD OSB to a button, but ideally it needs to be coded in so that it works correctly with TMS aft
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Are you getting mixed up with Cursor Enable?
No, I did not mix it up with Cursor Enable.
It’s a callback in the default keyfile, in the Throttle Quadrant System section, with all the other real buttons.
So I’ve made an OOPSIE :lol: It’s not in the real jet. I’ve been ARCADE all this time. Thanks for clearing that up for me guys.
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No, I did not mix it up with Cursor Enable.
It’s a callback in the default keyfile, in the Throttle Quadrant System section, with all the other real buttons.
https://i.gyazo.com/e991b4c85897424ec836699381de6c26.png
So I’ve made an OOPSIE :lol: It’s not in the real jet. I’ve been ARCADE all this time. Thanks for clearing that up for me guys.
Filthy casual
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No, I did not mix it up with Cursor Enable.
It’s a callback in the default keyfile, in the Throttle Quadrant System section, with all the other real buttons.
https://i.gyazo.com/e991b4c85897424ec836699381de6c26.png
So I’ve made an OOPSIE :lol: It’s not in the real jet. I’ve been ARCADE all this time. Thanks for clearing that up for me guys.
Intersting, thanks. Reason for my asking about the mixup is because you mentioned the throttle in your previous post. I might add that call back to my shifted layer on the TMS switch.
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Real F-16 has hands on CZ (TMS aft double tap I think) but only in later software versions. I have heard this please don’t be mad if I’m repeating a mistake
But yes it’s important to CZ after making a mark point because if you introduced system delta when moving TGP (or other sensor) around then they will still exist when mark point is selected as steerpoint. Naturally TGP will initially point at this wrong position but after CZ it will resume facing toward the correct place.
You might ask why doesn’t F-16 automatically CZ when selection mark point… well maybe you get that coordinate from DL and you need your system deltas because your INS has drifted (no GPS) and those system deltas were what was making your INS accurate again. Maybe real F-16 has special super-sekret programming to recognize when M-SEL own markpoint and realize you probably want CZ and does it for you. You never know with those sneaky engineers.