[4.34.1] "TRBMS 06 ILS WEATHER", ILS fail?
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If the copy paste error is what actually happened, chances are that others airbases will suffer from the same issue
As I expected,
Beside Taegu, the following airbase ILS order changed:
Choongwon, Seoul, Suwon and YechonHaven’t checked for navigation data impact yet, but I suspect it’s simply an unthought stations.dat file copy paste from another version, rather than a specific modification for 4.34.1 airbase frag code addition as mentionned in the changelog
Will investigate further in the coming days
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I went and checked training mission 4 and the ILS works fine there. I went back to mission 6 and checked the ILS rotary was on. It is on by default when the mission starts. The DED displays ILS on, and when I rotate the knob off, it displays off on the DED and the ILS bars disappear on the HUD. The ILS bars remain dashed on the HUD no matter how precise I try and fly the DME ARC.
Mission 4 is at Kunsan and the lines for that airbase are fine, so that is normal.
Did you try frequency 111.9 at mission 6?
I bet it works, but since it doesn’t match documentation, it is not productive -
Time for a small documentation update then
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I’d rather vouch for a quickfix with a correct stations.dat file
It’s much quicker and more efficientbut in the meantime, it can be fixed with the above statiosn.dat changes for Taegu
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No idea what has changed in 4.34 stationILS (?) … I do only work on 4.35 … I can’t do anything for the 4.34, but I will take a look on the DEV branch.
If needed, I think a “hot fix” will be very easy.
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No idea what has changed in 4.34 stationILS (?) … I do only work on 4.35 … I can’t do anything for the 4.34, but I will take a look on the DEV branch.
If needed, I think a “hot fix” will be very easy.
no hotfix if those changes are justified for next version
Doc might need update
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Dj, I think the whole file has been copied from 4.35 to 4.34 update 1
Might be wrong as I didn’t follow update 1 dev, but that’s seems coherent since update 1 Taegu is still a single airbase runway and the stations.dat clearly have ILS frequencies for a double runway airbaseIMHO a hotfix would be nice.
If needed, I can have a new file tested and checked ASAPI haven’t checked the différences at the other airbases I mentionned above
Doc might need update
the problem you refuse to understand is the impact such tiny mistakes have on the whole documentation suite
These references are used all over the place in the charts, AIP, training docs, Training missions, coms and nv book, dash1 etc etc
By the time all these docs are updated for that small mistake, then 4.35 will be out so it is not productive, and not efficient to let the Community with such a gap for 6 months or moreThe docs will be of course updated for 4.35
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@Red:
Dj, I think the whole file has been copied from 4.35 to 4.34 update 1
Might be wrong as I didn’t follow update 1 dev, but that’s seems coherent since update 1 Taegu is still a single airbase runway and the stations.dat clearly have ILS frequencies for a double runway airbaseIMHO a hotfix would be nice.
If needed, I can have a new file tested and checked ASAPI haven’t checked the différences at the other airbases I mentionned above
you are right
Dont know if this worth a hotfix though
affected airbase
Yechon
Taegu
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@Red:
Dj, I think the whole file has been copied from 4.35 to 4.34 update 1
Correct. I am with Jp … he will explain … but it is indeed an accident! (working too much!)
But you have seen that there will be some initial changes for 4.35 (because of, you know why ) … of course, if you need to re-apply some modifications … your option.Hotfix is a good idea … and easy stuff.
(Lets wait a little, 4.34.1 feedback just starts, maybe we could have other things to add in possible hotfix?)…
Or … lets publish a NOTAM on the main forum section.
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Just bundle up the correct files in a ZIP which I can attach to the 4.34 U1 release thread with the corresponding info where to put it in the BMS installation, that should suffice. No need to build a full-blown update installer for this I suppose. Unless there are multiple files in different locations affected. Just PM me over in the DEV forum once you have decided how to proceed. Thanks!
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Correct. I am with Jp … he will explain … but it is indeed an accident! (working too much!)
But you have seen that there will be some initial changes for 4.35 (because of, you know why ) … of course, if you need to re-apply some modifications … your option.I’m sure it is
Mistakes are only done by ppl working, so it can and will happen, that’s expected
The important thing is IMHO how we fix our mistakesI’ll have a correct station.dat file ready soon. We can also post this on the forum and refer to it whenever someone ask or report the same subject as this topic.
Either way, it is not for me to decide how you guys want to have itOr … lets publish a NOTAM on the main forum section.
hehe, good idea
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Just bundle up the correct files in a ZIP which I can attach to the 4.34 U1 release thread with the corresponding info where to put it in the BMS installation, that should suffice. No need to build a full-blown update installer for this I suppose. Unless there are multiple files in different locations affected. Just PM me over in the DEV forum once you have decided how to proceed. Thanks!
Will mod the stations.dat and send to dev for decision
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@Red:
hehe, good idea
Well … yep it could be. Sort of “what’s up there!” on the main forum section, largely visible to inform ppl of important stuff such as announcements, known bug … . And/or using the "notification “system”. (?) … It could be something interesting to think about.
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I went and checked training mission 4 and the ILS works fine there. I went back to mission 6 and checked the ILS rotary was on. It is on by default when the mission starts. The DED displays ILS on, and when I rotate the knob off, it displays off on the DED and the ILS bars disappear on the HUD. The ILS bars remain dashed on the HUD no matter how precise I try and fly the DME ARC.
My ILS and TACAN rotary (the one beside the HSI) is missing. No idea what happened, but every model of f16 is missing the rotary.
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My ILS and TACAN rotary (the one beside the HSI) is missing. No idea what happened, but every model of f16 is missing the rotary.
Some (newer) blocks don’t have it, there’s a button “M” below the instrument that serves the purpose.
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File was corrected and sent to dev within 48hours of the statement.
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just to confirm the issue has been fixed with 4.34 U2. Thanks Dev Team for fixing. Couldn’t figure out what I was doing wrong till I seen this post