Weapon Delivery Planner released
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Plus it can also be used to create pop-up attack profiles if I am not mistaken as this is saved to the callsign.ini file which will be used in the campaign by loading the DTC in the 3D world.
So true and it does even more, but listing everything would make a big post.
Falcas, can you explain how target STPTs are used with the WDP? I added some in the BMS UI, saved the mission/campaign, went into WDP but they are not shown in the DTC steerpoints list. When I went back into the BMS UI and loaded the saved campaign they were gone in there too. Does the BMS UI not save the target STPTs? It’s probably no big deal really as I see the WDP is really for single/secondary targets only using pop-up attack plans thus not relevant for use with multiple target STPTs (the data card is still useful though).
Sorry, sort of time at the moment. So I will answer this later on.
But if you have added STPTs and saved the mission. Then reloading the mission and the STPTs are gone, the mission was not saved I believe…
WDP does not change the mission file.
But if you are talking about the DTC, that is something different.Gr Falcas
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So true and it does even more, but listing everything would make a big post.
Sorry, sort of time at the moment. So I will answer this later on.
But if you have added STPTs and saved the mission. Then reloading the mission and the STPTs are gone, the mission was not saved I believe…
WDP does not change the mission file.
But if you are talking about the DTC, that is something different.Gr Falcas
I’ll experiment a bit more…
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I’ll experiment a bit more…
I think I have worked it out.
In the BMS UI, I add targets in the recon window. I then open the DTC, they show as target steerpoints on 10 through 15 (just where I added them). I save the DTC.
In the WDP, I open the mission using the open mission button and load the saved campaign file (this is not the DTC file).
Then I open my DTC file (callsign.ini which is in a different location to that of the saved mission and a different name than that of the saved campaign/mission).
Now the target steerpoints show in the WDP DTC STPT window.
If I exit the BMS UI and then restart BMS, the target steerpoints saved in the DTC are not reloaded. If I load the DTC, they are still not loaded as far as the UI is concerned. I haven’t checked in the 3D world yet.
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I think I have worked it out.
In the BMS UI, I add targets in the recon window. I then open the DTC, they show as target steerpoints on 10 through 15 (just where I added them). I save the DTC.
In the WDP, I open the mission using the open mission button and load the saved campaign file (this is not the DTC file).
Then I open my DTC file (callsign.ini which is in a different location to that of the saved mission and a different name than that of the saved campaign/mission).
Now the target steerpoints show in the WDP DTC STPT window.
If I exit the BMS UI and then restart BMS, the target steerpoints saved in the DTC are not reloaded. If I load the DTC, they are still not loaded as far as the UI is concerned. I haven’t checked in the 3D world yet.
This is the behaviour of the Campaign DTC at this time and is actualy not good how it work, as you have noticed.
It is already noted and is on the list of things that will be fixed in BMS.As a work around you can start you campaign again. Then click on fly, as soon as the load screen starts use ALT-TAB to WDP.
In WDP you should have the correct callsign.ini loaded already.
Save the callsign.ini in WDP and ALT-TAB back to Falcon. This will only take about 5-10sec, so you are in the loadingscreen again before Falcon has entered the 3D world.Gr Falcas
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Hi, many thanks for the program. I use it frequently. I have v3.1.
I have noticed the small map on the PopUp, HADB and Toss menu does not zoom. I find the steerpoints are off the map.
Also in VIP, Toss, I can not get the IP in line with the OA1. I tend to use VRP for that reason.
I recently did a short video of a JDAM LAT attack and used the WDP….Some folks who do these “tutorial” vids don’t seem to feature your prog much.
Well I think its great.:D
Here is the vid. I hope I did your prog justice!
Cheers.
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Hi Accipiter,
Hi, many thanks for the program. I use it frequently. I have v3.1.
I have noticed the small map on the PopUp, HADB and Toss menu does not zoom. I find the steerpoints are off the map.
This is already fixed for the next release.
Also in VIP, Toss, I can not get the IP in line with the OA1. I tend to use VRP for that reason.
I don’t fully understand what you want to do here? There is no need to line up the VIP and the OA1, you can, but you can also plan it with a turn.
For VIP, you should at least make sure that the distance between the IP and the TGT is big enought.I recently did a short video of a JDAM LAT attack and used the WDP….Some folks who do these “tutorial” vids don’t seem to feature your prog much.
Well I think its great.:D
Here is the vid. I hope I did your prog justice!
Cheers.
At this time I can’t access youtube, but I will have a look as soon as I am back home.
Thanks in advance!!!Gr Falcas
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Hi Sparks,
That depends on what you mean with plan…
WDP will not change your saved campaign file and it is not possible to create a new flight.
But it will help you plan the mission as it will create a datacard with all the important data for the mission.
It also creates cutouts of the map that is important for the flight.
It is more about the management of the mission
So it is planning what WDP will do for you ������Just download the manual “Mission planning with WDP” and you will get a good idea what the program does for you.
Only takes you a couple of min to quickly go through the manual.Gr Falcas
Yeah,
Know how to use with a TE and DL those deatils into WDP but cannot figure out how to do same for a campaign as there is no TE or similar to DL. Perhaps i do oversee something?
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Yeah,
Know how to use with a TE and DL those deatils into WDP but cannot figure out how to do same for a campaign as there is no TE or similar to DL. Perhaps i do oversee something?
You need to save the campaign and DTC (if you have made any change to the DTC for the mission you are going to fly). Then in WDP click “open mission” and select your saved campaign file (.cam) from the SAVE folder (Data\Campaign\SAVE). Now pick your mission from the list.
DTC is loaded from your “callsign”.ini file.
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This is the behaviour of the Campaign DTC at this time and is actualy not good how it work, as you have noticed.
It is already noted and is on the list of things that will be fixed in BMS.As a work around you can start you campaign again. Then click on fly, as soon as the load screen starts use ALT-TAB to WDP.
In WDP you should have the correct callsign.ini loaded already.
Save the callsign.ini in WDP and ALT-TAB back to Falcon. This will only take about 5-10sec, so you are in the loadingscreen again before Falcon has entered the 3D world.Gr Falcas
LOL ssd disk here u can’t do that unless u are really fast… it’s too damn fast. Does the pause key work on that stage? Have u considered a mobile version of WDP???
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LOL ssd disk here u can’t do that unless u are really fast… it’s too damn fast. Does the pause key work on that stage? Have u considered a mobile version of WDP???
Arty, I am also running with SSD but I use the WDP on a laptop over a network so no switching between applications needed.
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wow… And u tell me now? WDP works on a networked pc? Are u crazy??? Man superb… Will have to try it out… I have a laptop just collecting dust… waiting for the MFD prog to work…
I must stop the gfx modding and start RTFM…
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You need to save the campaign and DTC (if you have made any change to the DTC for the mission you are going to fly). Then in WDP click “open mission” and select your saved campaign file (.cam) from the SAVE folder (Data\Campaign\SAVE). Now pick your mission from the list.
DTC is loaded from your “callsign”.ini file.
Thanks, this is indeed what i was looking for, never thought about opening the .cam file intead of the .tac.
How simple it can be :oops: -
Unless I’m mistaken you have to uninstall with each version-specific setup.exe. This is a little bit awkward. Is it / will it be possible to uninstall a previous version using the current setup.exe? For example, uninstalling 3.0 using the 3.1 installer.
Following up with this, I’m curious to know what steps WDP.msi performs apart from extracting its contents to your preferred location? Unless it’s just me experiencing this upgrade peculiarity then I wonder if there’s a good reason to not just distribute the WDP file heirarchy in a compressed package that will simply overwrite any previous version?
As it stands we’ve got an MSI inside a RAR which also seems a bit redundant.
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Hi,
Good to see that everybody is helping answering questions.
@f4jok, Beside that the installer is putting the files in the correct place, it also makes a entry in your registry (as all installed programs)
This entry is version specific and thus you can’t just simply overwrite the exe. For that the installer needs to be be changed.
The installer also checks if you have the correct .NET version installed and if not, it will direct you to a download for the correct version.
The reason for the rar file is very simple the package contains more than just one file also the readme and newfeatures are included.Gr Falcas
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Falcas, thanks for the response. I am just struggling to understand why one would choose to have the program not upgradeable by a later version. The registry entry you mention sounds like it offers no benefit.
With respect to Readme.txt and NewFeaturesNN.txt, doesn’t it make more sense to put them in the MSI and, if you wish, offer the user a prompt to open one or both of them post-install?
For now I will stick to using Universal Extractor on the MSI and treat the program as a standalone package.
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You are struggeling because you assume that what you write is a fact.
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Hi, Falcas.
I have downloaded the last version of your useful utility, but I wasn’t redirected to install an updated version of MS Framework, and I failed to launch the app after the installation procedure ended.
So I tought I had to to install the most recent version of Framework manually before attempting a new WDP installation, and so I did, but I failed again.
Would you kindly explain what I did wrong and what sequence should I follow, in particular which version of Framework (and its related files) should have to get installed first?
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Hi Jackal,
The information is inside the readme
WDP uses version 3.5 of .NET. If you that one installed correctly, you should be fine.
Too bad, .NET is not completely backward compatible.Gr Falcas
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Ok here is the thing…
For campaign, the in memory PPTs and Lines are save to the callsign.ini when you go to the 3D world.
If you did not insert the PPTs and Line in the UI in BMS, there are none in the memory and thus no PPTs in the callsign.ini.So to overcome this there are 2 options.
1. Insert all the PPTs and Lines in the UI itself.2. In WDP open your saved campaign and get to the flight you want to fly.
Set everyting as you want, for the PPTs go to the map and use the auto PPT function to quickly add all the relevant PPTs.
Don’t close WDP.
Go back to BMS and hit the fly button if you are ready.
When you see the first loading screen, Alt+Tab to WDP and hit the “Save DTC” button and Alt+Tab back to BMS.
Now the callsign.ini is loaded with the relevant PPTs and you should see them when loading to the 3D world hase been completed.Note: When you Alt+Tab back to BMS you might only see a black screen. Don’t worry, just wait. The screen need to be painted again and this will be done with the next loading pie or when you enter the cockpit.
Gr Falcas
HMMMMMmmmm huge problem here… I load my data card from network. In map I see the waypoints. In DTC STPT I see them also. But in data card I don’t see anything… I know my package number but where do I choose it? or declare it? Read the manual it says it will ask u to choose… well it doesn’t.
Also (Please have in mind that I thing that this program is great and should be included in BMS itself) I believe that the whole UI is a bit way way to confusing for a newbie and an old fart dino like me.
To tell u what I mean… I don’t have the feeling of security that I did everything right (not the planning but saving files over) or if I do this will I loose my already done settings? -
I fly Campaign…
Hmmm just found out I have to point to the network and load my last saved mission. Mision day 1 15 blabla is that correct or I should open something else?Ok I see the default waypoints I don’t see the targets I saved to DTC. WP 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
Edit and yes my comms are off… damn…
Also now that I fly it the DES TOS times are all fubared and all the same. So no point to fly it… Damn
Also nav point 5 (target) is missplaced…
Also my target designation from falcon GUI are fubared… they point where the fubared nav 5 points…Hell Particle system is easier than this… lol