Weapon Delivery Planner released
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Hi Accipiter,
Hi, many thanks for the program. I use it frequently. I have v3.1.
I have noticed the small map on the PopUp, HADB and Toss menu does not zoom. I find the steerpoints are off the map.
This is already fixed for the next release.
Also in VIP, Toss, I can not get the IP in line with the OA1. I tend to use VRP for that reason.
I don’t fully understand what you want to do here? There is no need to line up the VIP and the OA1, you can, but you can also plan it with a turn.
For VIP, you should at least make sure that the distance between the IP and the TGT is big enought.I recently did a short video of a JDAM LAT attack and used the WDP….Some folks who do these “tutorial” vids don’t seem to feature your prog much.
Well I think its great.:D
Here is the vid. I hope I did your prog justice!
Cheers.
At this time I can’t access youtube, but I will have a look as soon as I am back home.
Thanks in advance!!!Gr Falcas
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Hi Sparks,
That depends on what you mean with plan…
WDP will not change your saved campaign file and it is not possible to create a new flight.
But it will help you plan the mission as it will create a datacard with all the important data for the mission.
It also creates cutouts of the map that is important for the flight.
It is more about the management of the mission
So it is planning what WDP will do for you ������Just download the manual “Mission planning with WDP” and you will get a good idea what the program does for you.
Only takes you a couple of min to quickly go through the manual.Gr Falcas
Yeah,
Know how to use with a TE and DL those deatils into WDP but cannot figure out how to do same for a campaign as there is no TE or similar to DL. Perhaps i do oversee something?
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Yeah,
Know how to use with a TE and DL those deatils into WDP but cannot figure out how to do same for a campaign as there is no TE or similar to DL. Perhaps i do oversee something?
You need to save the campaign and DTC (if you have made any change to the DTC for the mission you are going to fly). Then in WDP click “open mission” and select your saved campaign file (.cam) from the SAVE folder (Data\Campaign\SAVE). Now pick your mission from the list.
DTC is loaded from your “callsign”.ini file.
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This is the behaviour of the Campaign DTC at this time and is actualy not good how it work, as you have noticed.
It is already noted and is on the list of things that will be fixed in BMS.As a work around you can start you campaign again. Then click on fly, as soon as the load screen starts use ALT-TAB to WDP.
In WDP you should have the correct callsign.ini loaded already.
Save the callsign.ini in WDP and ALT-TAB back to Falcon. This will only take about 5-10sec, so you are in the loadingscreen again before Falcon has entered the 3D world.Gr Falcas
LOL ssd disk here u can’t do that unless u are really fast… it’s too damn fast. Does the pause key work on that stage? Have u considered a mobile version of WDP???
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LOL ssd disk here u can’t do that unless u are really fast… it’s too damn fast. Does the pause key work on that stage? Have u considered a mobile version of WDP???
Arty, I am also running with SSD but I use the WDP on a laptop over a network so no switching between applications needed.
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wow… And u tell me now? WDP works on a networked pc? Are u crazy??? Man superb… Will have to try it out… I have a laptop just collecting dust… waiting for the MFD prog to work…
I must stop the gfx modding and start RTFM…
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You need to save the campaign and DTC (if you have made any change to the DTC for the mission you are going to fly). Then in WDP click “open mission” and select your saved campaign file (.cam) from the SAVE folder (Data\Campaign\SAVE). Now pick your mission from the list.
DTC is loaded from your “callsign”.ini file.
Thanks, this is indeed what i was looking for, never thought about opening the .cam file intead of the .tac.
How simple it can be :oops: -
Unless I’m mistaken you have to uninstall with each version-specific setup.exe. This is a little bit awkward. Is it / will it be possible to uninstall a previous version using the current setup.exe? For example, uninstalling 3.0 using the 3.1 installer.
Following up with this, I’m curious to know what steps WDP.msi performs apart from extracting its contents to your preferred location? Unless it’s just me experiencing this upgrade peculiarity then I wonder if there’s a good reason to not just distribute the WDP file heirarchy in a compressed package that will simply overwrite any previous version?
As it stands we’ve got an MSI inside a RAR which also seems a bit redundant.
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Hi,
Good to see that everybody is helping answering questions.
@f4jok, Beside that the installer is putting the files in the correct place, it also makes a entry in your registry (as all installed programs)
This entry is version specific and thus you can’t just simply overwrite the exe. For that the installer needs to be be changed.
The installer also checks if you have the correct .NET version installed and if not, it will direct you to a download for the correct version.
The reason for the rar file is very simple the package contains more than just one file also the readme and newfeatures are included.Gr Falcas
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Falcas, thanks for the response. I am just struggling to understand why one would choose to have the program not upgradeable by a later version. The registry entry you mention sounds like it offers no benefit.
With respect to Readme.txt and NewFeaturesNN.txt, doesn’t it make more sense to put them in the MSI and, if you wish, offer the user a prompt to open one or both of them post-install?
For now I will stick to using Universal Extractor on the MSI and treat the program as a standalone package.
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You are struggeling because you assume that what you write is a fact.
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Hi, Falcas.
I have downloaded the last version of your useful utility, but I wasn’t redirected to install an updated version of MS Framework, and I failed to launch the app after the installation procedure ended.
So I tought I had to to install the most recent version of Framework manually before attempting a new WDP installation, and so I did, but I failed again.
Would you kindly explain what I did wrong and what sequence should I follow, in particular which version of Framework (and its related files) should have to get installed first?
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Hi Jackal,
The information is inside the readme
WDP uses version 3.5 of .NET. If you that one installed correctly, you should be fine.
Too bad, .NET is not completely backward compatible.Gr Falcas
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Ok here is the thing…
For campaign, the in memory PPTs and Lines are save to the callsign.ini when you go to the 3D world.
If you did not insert the PPTs and Line in the UI in BMS, there are none in the memory and thus no PPTs in the callsign.ini.So to overcome this there are 2 options.
1. Insert all the PPTs and Lines in the UI itself.2. In WDP open your saved campaign and get to the flight you want to fly.
Set everyting as you want, for the PPTs go to the map and use the auto PPT function to quickly add all the relevant PPTs.
Don’t close WDP.
Go back to BMS and hit the fly button if you are ready.
When you see the first loading screen, Alt+Tab to WDP and hit the “Save DTC” button and Alt+Tab back to BMS.
Now the callsign.ini is loaded with the relevant PPTs and you should see them when loading to the 3D world hase been completed.Note: When you Alt+Tab back to BMS you might only see a black screen. Don’t worry, just wait. The screen need to be painted again and this will be done with the next loading pie or when you enter the cockpit.
Gr Falcas
HMMMMMmmmm huge problem here… I load my data card from network. In map I see the waypoints. In DTC STPT I see them also. But in data card I don’t see anything… I know my package number but where do I choose it? or declare it? Read the manual it says it will ask u to choose… well it doesn’t.
Also (Please have in mind that I thing that this program is great and should be included in BMS itself) I believe that the whole UI is a bit way way to confusing for a newbie and an old fart dino like me.
To tell u what I mean… I don’t have the feeling of security that I did everything right (not the planning but saving files over) or if I do this will I loose my already done settings? -
I fly Campaign…
Hmmm just found out I have to point to the network and load my last saved mission. Mision day 1 15 blabla is that correct or I should open something else?Ok I see the default waypoints I don’t see the targets I saved to DTC. WP 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
Edit and yes my comms are off… damn…
Also now that I fly it the DES TOS times are all fubared and all the same. So no point to fly it… Damn
Also nav point 5 (target) is missplaced…
Also my target designation from falcon GUI are fubared… they point where the fubared nav 5 points…Hell Particle system is easier than this… lol
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HMMMMMmmmm huge problem here… I load my data card from network. In map I see the waypoints. In DTC STPT I see them also. But in data card I don’t see anything… I know my package number but where do I choose it? or declare it? Read the manual it says it will ask u to choose… well it doesn’t.
Also (Please have in mind that I thing that this program is great and should be included in BMS itself) I believe that the whole UI is a bit way way to confusing for a newbie and an old fart dino like me.
To tell u what I mean… I don’t have the feeling of security that I did everything right (not the planning but saving files over) or if I do this will I loose my already done settings?I have seen that you already found your problem, but let me explain some more.
First of all, WDP will not be included in BMS itself. Keeping it outside of the Falcon gives a lot more advantages that including it. (Not only on the user sided)That WDP has some complexity, is because the material you are working with (flying an F-16) is complex But beside that, BMS the DTC set up that is used multiple files combined and also there is the thing about: in memory or in the file.
All making things complex and WDP has to deal with that. I could make WDP simpler, but than you would not be able to do anything anymoreAbout saving and keeping track if you have saved or not…
Have you seen the red and green lights all over the program? Guess what they indicateGr Falcas
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I fly Campaign…
Hmmm just found out I have to point to the network and load my last saved mission. Mision day 1 15 blabla is that correct or I should open something else?Ok I see the default waypoints I don’t see the targets I saved to DTC. WP 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
If you are using a network connection, you should go to the DTC MAIN tab, and check if your Falcon location is pointing to your install where you actually fly with.
So the one on the other computer.
Also the TDF location and Callsign,ini should point to location on the other computer.If you close WDP, these locations will be stored for the next time.
If you don’t have the network connection when you start WDP, it will not find the BMS installation over the network.Gr Falcas
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If you are using a network connection, you should go to the DTC MAIN tab, and check if your Falcon location is pointing to your install where you actually fly with.
So the one on the other computer.
Also the TDF location and Callsign,ini should point to location on the other computer.If you close WDP, these locations will be stored for the next time.
If you don’t have the network connection when you start WDP, it will not find the BMS installation over the network.Gr Falcas
Yea I have done them already… (Found out and checked that the paths where right) I also have a falcon install in the pc I run WDP but with no callsign and no campaign.
this is what I had before I hit fly and than hit save DTC from WDP.Hhhhhmmmm I see a red light there…
Also:
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Ok, You are doing more than you need and that makes thing complicated.
But before that I like to point out that there still is a little bug there concerning the names of the ini, so bare with me on that part.To start of, you are working with Campaign missions, not TE? Correct?
If so, totaly ignore the mission.ini files as they are only for the TEs.
The Campaign only uses your Callsign.ini.A couple of rules you must be aware of using the DTC. If you are in BMS and save a DTC for a flight, let call this flight Viper1.
If you then go and fly with another flight, lets say Cowboy2, and you load the DTC while in the jet… guess what happens…
You end up with the flightplan of Viper1.
Also make sure that you have all the STPT set and then save the DTC in BMS, if you create new STPTs or change there location and forget to save the DTC again, you don’t have these changements after you load the DTC in the jet.After you have loaded your campaign mission and selected your flight, set your Pop-up as you want (if you want to use it).
Then return to the Datacard and see if the values are on the datacard. If not, just click on the lable “Attack Type” on the Datacard and you will get the selection buttons to select the Pop-Up.
If you are done, click the “Save DTC” button. Make sure WDP will give you a message that your Callsign.ini has been saved and that the red light next to the “Callsign.ini saved” (On the Datacard) becomes green. And you are done.Notice that there is totaly no need to go to the DTC part as long if you don’t need to change any specific there.
Also, every change that you make on the Datacard and that item is in the Callsign.ini, it will be changed as soon as you save the DTC.
For example: the ALOW setting on the Datacard, is in the Callsign.ini. Make a change on the Datacard and you will notice that the light next to the “Callsign.ini saved” will become red to indicated that you made a changement and this has not been saved yet.Gr Falcas
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Ok, You are doing more than you need and that makes thing complicated.
But before that I like to point out that there still is a little bug there concerning the names of the ini, so bare with me on that part.To start of, you are working with Campaign missions, not TE? Correct?
If so, totaly ignore the mission.ini files as they are only for the TEs.
The Campaign only uses your Callsign.ini.A couple of rules you must be aware of using the DTC. If you are in BMS and save a DTC for a flight, let call this flight Viper1.
If you then go and fly with another flight, lets say Cowboy2, and you load the DTC while in the jet… guess what happens…
You end up with the flightplan of Viper1.
Also make sure that you have all the STPT set and then save the DTC in BMS, if you create new STPTs or change there location and forget to save the DTC again, you don’t have these changements after you load the DTC in the jet.After you have loaded your campaign mission and selected your flight, set your Pop-up as you want (if you want to use it).
Then return to the Datacard and see if the values are on the datacard. If not, just click on the lable “Attack Type” on the Datacard and you will get the selection buttons to select the Pop-Up.
If you are done, click the “Save DTC” button. Make sure WDP will give you a message that your Callsign.ini has been saved and that the red light next to the “Callsign.ini saved” (On the Datacard) becomes green. And you are done.Notice that there is totaly no need to go to the DTC part as long if you don’t need to change any specific there.
Also, every change that you make on the Datacard and that item is in the Callsign.ini, it will be changed as soon as you save the DTC.
For example: the ALOW setting on the Datacard, is in the Callsign.ini. Make a change on the Datacard and you will notice that the light next to the “Callsign.ini saved” will become red to indicated that you made a changement and this has not been saved yet.Gr Falcas
So I do everything in falcon and only the popup in your program…
Also IIRC If I don’t load the mission.ini file my datacard remains empty.