Mirage 2000-9 : skin and TGP issues
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Jaguar will probably be removed from KTO database.
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??? Very sad news !!! So, we won’t be able to play on the French side in Desert Storm anymore ?
The Jag has been the main attack plane of the FAF during decades … The 1st plane ever to use a Laser POD for a single seat fighter(in fact , that was the purpose of ATLIS : giving Laser bombing capability for single-seat AC …) A pionneer , and a little legend …
Very , very sad !!!
Does the BMS team really need to do that ? I’m sure you have the best reasons to do so but … it’s an iconic plane ! Why letting the , for example Mig 17, in the DB(another legend, for sure) , while erasing the Jaguar ?
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??? Very sad news !!! So, we won’t be able to play on the French side in Desert Storm ?
Very , very sad !!!
Nope. It will be available eon other theaters.
Does the BMS team really need to do that ?
Yes : To get some place for other new aircraft, more relevant for KTO.
I’m sure you have the best reasons to do so but …
Yes. A day is only 24H a week only 7 days.
Why letting the , for example Mig 17, in the DB(another legend, for sure) , while erasing the Jaguar ?
MiG-17 is more relevant in KTO than a Jaguar, or AMX, or MB339 …
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I am saying this just to show Mower why we do not communicate on future or on-going projects.
Not sure the Jaguar will be my first victim. But it will be probably someday. do not worry … some other theater will have it in their DB for sure. -
Not sure the Jaguar will be my first victim. But it will be probably someday. do not worry … some other theater will have it in their DB for sure.
Pheeeeewwww ……
I thought you meant the Jag will be erased purely from Falcon …
some other theater will have it in their DB for sure
If I can dare a suggestion : please let the Jag in the DBs related to Africa and Middle-East , as it was his main playground .
Yes : To get some place for other new aircraft, more relevant for KTO.
Yes. A day is only 24H a week only 7 days.
MiG-17 is more relevant in KTO than a Jaguar, or AMX, or MB339 …
The best reasons .
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please let the Jag in the DBs related to Africa and Middle-East , as it was his main playground .
Not my area. Those are 3rd party theaters.
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Hi Again,pilots and BMS team
I made some little final testing to try what I have learned in this topic . All is working good .
- I only noticed that the Mirage 2000 EGM had the same problem with its TGP than the M2K-9 (so I solved it the same way, directly in Acdata)
- I modified my JAGUAR Acdata, giving him an Internal Navpod capability(because irl the JAG A carried an Omera Camera in its nose, giving him a permanent and very useful recon capability) .
I wanted to reproduce it for my sim , so I “internally” added a Navpod in the Jaguar .
Thanks you all for all the help provided.
Regards,
Laurent
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The cam on the nose is not a nav pod nor a TGP… it was (IIRC) a laser telemetry. Not a recon cam either an couldn’t display anything on cockpit (don’t know for British versions).
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I know Dee-Jay, I know …
You are 100% true, but it’s the best compromise I could find to simulate(at least a little) this function on the Jaguar GR3 , to make him closer from a the Jag’-A(and I don’t know for the Britsh version either) .
I tought about putting a low alt camera instead , but I didn’t knew if it was doable .regards,
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, but it’s the best compromise I could find to simulate(at least a little) this function on the Jaguar GR3,
? Either you or I are missing something.
I dont see why adding an internal FLIR on the Jaguar is a compromise while real one do not have any camera (except the ATLIS designation pod mounted on the wing).
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It’s because I’m thinking about the French Jaguar variant , that had an Omera camera that served to take shots during reco mission .
English isn’t my native language, so it can be difficult sometimes to explain myself accurately .
so please look :
Les avions français étaient équipés d’un radar Doppler de navigation, d’un système de contrôle de tir, d’un système d’alerte radar, et d’une caméra panoramique OMERA 40 sous le nez, complétée plus tard par un télémètre laser.
https://www.pilote-chasse-11ec.com/les-avions-f-100-et-jaguar/la-terre-vue-den-haut/
It’s this Omera 40 that I try to reproduce ; as I don’t know how to mount an low alt camera in the plane(what I think could be the best I could hope for to fit my purpose), I’m just trying whatever I can . I’m only learning to manipulate what I can, while trying to “improve”(not the good word, but it’s the only one I know for what I want to express, and because it’s only a point of view) some of my favorite planes.
Althought as you said , there wasn’t any display from the pit ; I know it well , but I would be glad if I could fly with a Jaguar A really able to take pictures, as irl . The pilot did it with the trigger gun button with in a certain position , as in WW2 .
-EDIT : SOLVED : now, I know how to do ; just adding a new HP in the LOD of my Jag , then mount a low-alt cam in it . My Jag is now complete ! -
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. The pilot did it with the trigger gun button with in a certain position , as
Nav pod won’t allow you to log a successful recce mission in BMS. What you need is a “fake” recce pod.
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What you need is a “fake” recce pod.
Can you explain me more about it ?
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Can you explain me more about it ?
Good evening,
Dee-Jay means that imagery tactical reconnaissance is not possible yet on BMS. You can always deploy a fake RP36P if you want on your Jaguar exterior model but you will have to make the model by yourself.
However, as Dee-Jay said, it will be a dummy payload : no imagery will be possible to be debriefed. It would be purely and simply aesthetic.
Please do not dream, there is no chance that a realistic Jaguar, Mirage F1, Rafale will ever be implemented in BMS : Mirage 2000 is the closest French bird that we can find compared to F-16 series, and if we have some more dev to make on a french bird, it won’t be for something else than Mirage 2000.
Regards,
Radium
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Hi Radium,
there is no chance that a realistic Jaguar, Mirage F1, Rafale will ever be implemented in BMS
I don’t want it to be implemented in BMS ! It’s only for my personnal fun !
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There is a way to implement the iff on the mirage 2000-9 via mirage2k9.dat too? Because iff interrogation doesn’t work too…
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Yep .
just copy the relevant lines in a M2K-5(for example) and paste it to your M2K-9 .dat; It takes about 15 s. But I don’t know if the 2000-9 has an interrogator IRL (although I would be surprised by the negative …)
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Good evening,
Dee-Jay means that imagery tactical reconnaissance is not possible yet on BMS. You can always deploy a fake RP36P if you want on your Jaguar exterior model but you will have to make the model by yourself.
However, as Dee-Jay said, it will be a dummy payload : no imagery will be possible to be debriefed. It would be purely and simply aesthetic.
Please do not dream, there is no chance that a realistic Jaguar, Mirage F1, Rafale will ever be implemented in BMS : Mirage 2000 is the closest French bird that we can find compared to F-16 series, and if we have some more dev to make on a french bird, it won’t be for something else than Mirage 2000.
Regards,
Radium
Better honest than sorry… I see.
With best regards.
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