Kuwait Theater tester version 2 (434U1)
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There are a couple of possibilities for new campaigns in this region, future and past (80’s Iran - Iraq War, modern campaign - US, Saudi Arabia against Iran etc.).
Also Iran ordered F-16 before the revolution, which never received. But what if…
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True indeed and agree, Airbuster.
Ah, some tech note for Goro: I happened to note something ‘strange’ in Al Aqsa Saudi AB yesterday when I went in campaign.
If and when you have time, of course, wouldn’t you mind to fix that usual annoying ‘vegetables’ :lol: issue at the beginning of RWY 34? It’s showing randomly here and there, I guess.
And yes, now that I’m forcibly at home, I’m also available to have a look all around and see if that happens also elsewhere… please let me know if do you like it.But this theater is already a thing anyway, and this is still a fact.
Behave always safe, mates.
With best regards to all.
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Added Mirage-2000C squadron based on Al Asha
Thank you so much , SpbGoro !
As a french flight simmer, I immediately added the M2k-C with MC when I discovered there was no French fighter there . Now, they are based there officially , thanks to you !
May I dare to suggest to add a Jaguar A sqn there too , for the next release ? (irl, the 11th sqn equipped with the Jags with a good part of the french attack planes were there . That’s why the Mirage 2000 C sqn were there too ,to defend them and all the French area) .
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http://archives.ecpad.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/daguet.pdf cf p9 of the pdf for more detailsMany thanks again for your work, Kuwait TO is one of my favorite theater !
Regards,
Laurent
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This looks awesome downloading now, can’t wait to fly it.:D:D:D
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Very impressive the way you have developed this theater, far beyond what I was ever capable of. Great work, keep going.
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I want to share some experiences with the Kuwait campaign and found one issue.
First the issue: The new parallel runways like Saddam Intl and Shayka Mazhar cannot be hit (haven’t tried Balad Southeast). All others are OK, including the sharp angled dual runways.
Now my campaign: Initial settings were veteran with aircraft slider entirely to the left (Iraq), all others middle.
My starting grand scheme for winning the campaign is to fly SEAD/DEAD most of the time and taking out the most dangerous airfields (with some time between to prevent the feared “wall of MiGs”).
So I helped the other troops to get their job done. PAK sliders were set deep red for the area around Kuwait and the front line of troops. Mission and target types slightly adjusted and Infrastructure to zero. After the first chaos with SEAD and fighters over Kuwait I built the first missions for myself:
1. Take out the SA-5 at Basrah and some of the SA-2.
2. I did “suicidal” one-ship-flights to hammer runways at Basrah Intl (MiG-29) and Shaibah (MiG-21 and Su-25) to ease the fighting for my side a bit. Not real suicidal since I go in high speeddown in the dust, radar off, throwing my Durandals with a good chance of escape without loosing a wingman.The same I did over day one and the following night with other SA-5, the SA-2 chain along the border and some front near airfields. The new SAM-behavior is really tricky. With the search radars all around I find the HAS mode for my HARMs almost more suitable than HAD because of filtering in the tables. The SA-5 and other SAMs around Baghdad were a real challenge.
Meanwhile the other enemy fighters were depleted a good part and the A-10 and consorts worked down enemy ground troops. I let the other airfields come back one after one to get the rest of them. Although they are still a good challenge at day 2.
Now I go for CCC, Logistics and War production, Baghdad is also high priority in PAK. The SAMs are afraid of activating their radars most of the time.My ground troops now begin moving northwards. I “convinced” some to do so by setting their paths manually but all others follow:
http://redvalleylabs.de/temp/Kuwait.jpg
http://redvalleylabs.de/temp/Kuwait2.jpg
Questions:
What are those white framed ground units? human control? Moving?
I hope I can win this, since description tells me I have 5 days, TRI-file says 10. Which one is correct?
I cannot watch the movies, even not with VLC. Korea is fine, since I downloaded x264VFW video codec.
Further findings:
After all, BMS 4.34 seems to be a bit unstable. I sometimes get crashes to desktop when entering 3D. But this is a minor issue since Autosave is always intact.
And Intel force levels are somewhat crippled, all data before day 1 10:00 have went to zero some time into the campaign.Last but not least: As you can see, I’m having helluva good time with Kuwait. Thank you for this piece of art
I had my priorities set high for airfields and no flights were being generated. After removing SAM threat around Kuwait, I reset for aircraft instead of airfields and noticed hardly flights being generated, this happened also with transition to busting tanks in priorities as no flights were being generated. BARCAP flights weren’t an issue though those were the only ones being generated and the rest zilch. Deleted and will restart and see what happens but so far nothing was in the frag order except 1 or 2 flights and my Air power was full while red was halfway and they had aircraft up like roaches so much my screen was moving. Am I doing something wrong?? Normally what I do is set the priorities and command my own squadron and adjust as time goes, but I seem to not be able to do that here.
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I had my priorities set high for airfields and no flights were being generated. After removing SAM threat around Kuwait, I reset for aircraft instead of airfields and noticed hardly flights being generated, this happened also with transition to busting tanks in priorities as no flights were being generated. BARCAP flights weren’t an issue though those were the only ones being generated and the rest zilch. Deleted and will restart and see what happens but so far nothing was in the frag order except 1 or 2 flights and my Air power was full while red was halfway and they had aircraft up like roaches so much my screen was moving. Am I doing something wrong?? Normally what I do is set the priorities and command my own squadron and adjust as time goes, but I seem to not be able to do that here.
Disregard, I got it.
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Thanks for the Theatre SpbGoro, we’re flying the campaign in our Sqn and really enjoying it.
Question on Theatre Update 4 (not BMS Update 4), are saves from Theatre Update 3 fully compatible with Theatre Update 4? We don’t want to have to restart our Sqn campaign so if they aren’t we’ll stick with Theatre Update 3 until we finish it.
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Question on Theatre Update 4 (not BMS Update 4), are saves from Theatre Update 3 fully compatible with Theatre Update 4? We don’t want to have to restart our Sqn campaign so if they aren’t we’ll stick with Theatre Update 3 until we finish it.
Sorry. Old saves are unlikely to be compatible with new versions. In the new changes: some airfields, added cities, villages, links. And updated pack map file.
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Sorry. Old saves are unlikely to be compatible with new versions. In the new changes: some airfields, added cities, villages, links. And updated pack map file.
Thanks. Appreciate the quick response
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I’d just like to show my appreciation once again for the Kuwait Theatre and SpbGoro’s hard work. The photoreal blending in these areas is brilliant and it makes the theatre so immersive!
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I had my priorities set high for airfields and no flights were being generated. After removing SAM threat around Kuwait, I reset for aircraft instead of airfields and noticed hardly flights being generated, this happened also with transition to busting tanks in priorities as no flights were being generated. BARCAP flights weren’t an issue though those were the only ones being generated and the rest zilch. Deleted and will restart and see what happens but so far nothing was in the frag order except 1 or 2 flights and my Air power was full while red was halfway and they had aircraft up like roaches so much my screen was moving. Am I doing something wrong?? Normally what I do is set the priorities and command my own squadron and adjust as time goes, but I seem to not be able to do that here.
I had no such problems. Of course, HQ is unlikely to frag anti airfield missions in high threat areas before SAM and aircraft threats are reduced to a certain level. Those are very high in this theater and is not mirrored in the absolute numbers of the Intel section (SEAD / DEAD / Sweeps should be no problem). I put entire packages together for myself against enemy airfields. If you don’t mind to have no action / thrill, take a flight of EF-111 with you (SAMs will stay quiet).
My second thought: Do NOT go into extremes in the Priorities section. In the past, the campaign system was very fragile, I don’t exactly know how stable it is today. Slight adjustments with the sliders are the way to go (except Infrastructure, should be 0.000000000 ) I have a habit since many years: Put HQ back in charge from time to time and then adjust new carefully target and mission types, PAKs.
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I had no such problems. Of course, HQ is unlikely to frag anti airfield missions in high threat areas before SAM and aircraft threats are reduced to a certain level. Those are very high in this theater and is not mirrored in the absolute numbers of the Intel section (SEAD / DEAD / Sweeps should be no problem). I put entire packages together for myself against enemy airfields. If you don’t mind to have no action / thrill, take a flight of EF-111 with you (SAMs will stay quiet).
My second thought: Do NOT go into extremes in the Priorities section. In the past, the campaign system was very fragile, I don’t exactly know how stable it is today. Slight adjustments with the sliders are the way to go (except Infrastructure, should be 0.000000000 ) I have a habit since many years: Put HQ back in charge from time to time and then adjust new carefully target and mission types, PAKs.
Thank you for that, I think I’m going to take over the ATO for certain airframes needed to bring down those airbases, I intend to have fun with it in this manner:
Day 1) Suppress enemy airfields from launching as well as destroy SAM radars in Kuwait city and south of it in Saudi and in Al Kahfji and around the FLOT.
Day 2) Strike key military/industrial/factory targets in Kuwait city as well as Al Kahfji as well as BAI and CAS with destruction/suppression of EW radars in and around the FLOT and Kuwait city and Al Kahfji.
Day 3) Prohibit/destroy possible advances of reinforcements into Kuwait city and Al Kahfji
Day 4) Destroy any remaining ground forces and give allied troops to advance and capture key cities and points (Push CAS) as well as provide air suppirt for the push into Al Kahfji and Kuwait city.
As far as slight adjustments go, is there a time frame in which I should wait before making further changes to target type and mission type in the priorities options of the engine itself??
Thank you for your advice/feedback. I’ve been waiting a long time for a Desert Storm campaign and I intend to enjoy it very much. I only wish the campaign was longer than 10 days but that may be all that is needed to win with my strategy, it is a Storm after all.
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That sounds like a good plan, highly certain to get overthrown at day 1 :mrgreen:
Adjustments will take effect when new sorties are generated. That can take 1-2 hours depending on free aircraft. But you don’t have to wait correcting them.
Think more globally. Everything has to be addressed on a certain level. HQ always has more tools than your squadron. Look into ATO (check all) and you will see, that i.e. more F-4 or Tornados are flying SEAD than F-16, more F-15 doing sweeps, A-10 CAS, … Thats a neat big picture and mirrors your Priorities pretty well.
How I did it:
The campaign goal is to take Basrah and some Installations around, set the PAK region on a higher priority, too (go not at extreme 5). The same with the front line of troops FLOT (in the west not over 3, Kuwait can be 5, spare Baghdad at the beginning - too dangerous, address other a little bit to get sorties generated there).Example:
Your first goal should be to take out the MiG-29 squadron at Basrah. For this, create a first SEAD mission coming in over the Persian Gulf from the east with maybe a flight of F-15 sweep not farther in than the coast. Use the long range of the HARM, stay locked from SA-5s fire control radar or you will miss. Watch threat aircraft, call AWACs for help, F-15 are nearby. If in planning not enough aircraft are available, cancel unneeded flights from the ATO in the desired time frame from the desired squadrons.
Second mission: Go after Basrah airport. Here I have specialized on a somewhat suicidal way, coming in very low over water with Durandals without a wingman (would be shot down), evading AAA, SA-2 and -3 watching RWR. Evading Installations because of Manpads. Tasking F-15C for escort (you can call AWACS for help, they will guide them to threat aircraft, the 29ers WILL intercept you), F-4 for SEAD escort. “Sneak” in radar off (though, they will see you to some extend on their radars), ECM just short before the target. Route lined up with runway. For BLU-107 I set AD in CNTL page both entries to 1.00 seconds before Ingress Point. Pop up to 300ft, watch IR-SAMs beeing launched, Chaff / Flare, crater runway, CAT-III, maneuver hard at lowest altitude, go around threats on egress. From IP to the target go fast but not over 620 knots or bombs will be damaged, same with too much G-forces before dropping.
Or you prefer the sensible way: Put together a large package with 4 F-16 OCA with GBU-24 (penetrator version), 4 F-15C escort, 4 F-4 SEAD, 2 EF-111 ESW/ESJ (keeps SAMs silent) and hammer the base from high above without threat from IR-SAMs and AAA.
Next missions: take out near airfields with MiG-21 (look into OOB), work along the SA-2 line along the FLOT, take out more SA-5.
Take enough time spacing between OCA-Strikes or they will get repaired all at once and you have fun with a wall of MiGs in the second night when the runways get repaired. Don’t take out too many airfields because aircraft in Falcon have to be shot down in the air to reduce their strength (always let a certain amount of enemy aircraft flyable to reduce them over time).
With threat environment reduced, do what you want. CAS is important. Or go after factories and depots (a nice one near Basrah with all buildings very high value). Or early warning radars. This is the phase you may pound other targets than OCA / SEAD / DEAD, BUT: The threats from aircraft and hideous SAMs kept high to the end in my campaigns.
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Just a " +1 " to say thanks for the theatre.
Really enjoying it. Certianly a change from Korea.
Just come back from a CAS mission in hour 5.
I moved a few British aircraft nearer the front - makes for a very busy airport seeing the Buccaneers, Jags, and Tornadoes all lined up ready for departure. We had a little airshow with me on the ramp and watching them take off on their way. So good hearing the comms in place! -
That sounds like a good plan, highly certain to get overthrown at day 1 :mrgreen:
Adjustments will take effect when new sorties are generated. That can take 1-2 hours depending on free aircraft. But you don’t have to wait correcting them.
Think more globally. Everything has to be addressed on a certain level. HQ always has more tools than your squadron. Look into ATO (check all) and you will see, that i.e. more F-4 or Tornados are flying SEAD than F-16, more F-15 doing sweeps, A-10 CAS, … Thats a neat big picture and mirrors your Priorities pretty well.
How I did it:
The campaign goal is to take Basrah and some Installations around, set the PAK region on a higher priority, too (go not at extreme 5). The same with the front line of troops FLOT (in the west not over 3, Kuwait can be 5, spare Baghdad at the beginning - too dangerous, address other a little bit to get sorties generated there).Example:
Your first goal should be to take out the MiG-29 squadron at Basrah. For this, create a first SEAD mission coming in over the Persian Gulf from the east with maybe a flight of F-15 sweep not farther in than the coast. Use the long range of the HARM, stay locked from SA-5s fire control radar or you will miss. Watch threat aircraft, call AWACs for help, F-15 are nearby. If in planning not enough aircraft are available, cancel unneeded flights from the ATO in the desired time frame from the desired squadrons.
Second mission: Go after Basrah airport. Here I have specialized on a somewhat suicidal way, coming in very low over water with Durandals without a wingman (would be shot down), evading AAA, SA-2 and -3 watching RWR. Evading Installations because of Manpads. Tasking F-15C for escort (you can call AWACS for help, they will guide them to threat aircraft, the 29ers WILL intercept you), F-4 for SEAD escort. “Sneak” in radar off (though, they will see you to some extend on their radars), ECM just short before the target. Route lined up with runway. For BLU-107 I set AD in CNTL page both entries to 1.00 seconds before Ingress Point. Pop up to 300ft, watch IR-SAMs beeing launched, Chaff / Flare, crater runway, CAT-III, maneuver hard at lowest altitude, go around threats on egress. From IP to the target go fast but not over 620 knots or bombs will be damaged, same with too much G-forces before dropping.
Or you prefer the sensible way: Put together a large package with 4 F-16 OCA with GBU-24 (penetrator version), 4 F-15C escort, 4 F-4 SEAD, 2 EF-111 ESW/ESJ (keeps SAMs silent) and hammer the base from high above without threat from IR-SAMs and AAA.
Next missions: take out near airfields with MiG-21 (look into OOB), work along the SA-2 line along the FLOT, take out more SA-5.
Take enough time spacing between OCA-Strikes or they will get repaired all at once and you have fun with a wall of MiGs in the second night when the runways get repaired. Don’t take out too many airfields because aircraft in Falcon have to be shot down in the air to reduce their strength (always let a certain amount of enemy aircraft flyable to reduce them over time).
With threat environment reduced, do what you want. CAS is important. Or go after factories and depots (a nice one near Basrah with all buildings very high value). Or early warning radars. This is the phase you may pound other targets than OCA / SEAD / DEAD, BUT: The threats from aircraft and hideous SAMs kept high to the end in my campaigns.
Sounds like it’ll never get boring, hells yeah. Thanks for all your help and suggestions they’re really appreciated. I’m gonna fire this up soon and get to work, thanks again.
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does anybody else have issues with enemy aircraft being to lazy to engage? Yesterday i was almost able to see the enemy pilot clearly before he engaged me! And in another mission almost fly formation with a mig-23 before i shot it down… The only enemies that will engage you from distance this far seems that are only mig 25
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Hi there,
BMS is crashing on startup after switching to this theater. (running latest update “Add-On Kuwait434U4_V7_27-04-2020”) Other theaters are loading fine.
crash log tells me:“Falcon BMS.exe caused an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION…”
and
“Object at RCX(0000000000000000)
Data inaccessible”can anybody help me out with some pointers? Thanks for you work and have a good one.
EDIT: Nevermind… i never actually applied the BMS updates… doing that now
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does anybody else have issues with enemy aircraft being to lazy to engage? Yesterday i was almost able to see the enemy pilot clearly before he engaged me! And in another mission almost fly formation with a mig-23 before i shot it down… The only enemies that will engage you from distance this far seems that are only mig 25
I’ve had some tough merges with Mig-23s. 29s and 25s are also quite aggressive in my experience. Some of their strike aircraft however permit us to fly form off them before gunning them down.
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Great theatre and campaign. Just completed it flying the F-15E Strike Eagle with the 335th FS, reliving Jane’s F-15! I’ve not had this fun in a long time in a flight sim.
A few things I want to point out:
After probably half of day 1 had progressed, only a few sorties were generated for my squadron and it took many hours before they popped up. Not many were generated for the newly arrived 336th FS (also Strike Eagles). I also saw that the F-117 squadron had only flown 1 mission in two days. I made my own strike packages primarily for my squadron at this point. Feels like a loss of air power with no F-15E missions being generated no matter if you fly the F-15E or not.
Around the same time as my squadron stopped receiving missions, HQ “white listed” Kuwait in the ATO for some reason. Had to override the ATO and made it a focus again in the PAK menu.Also noticed that numerous squadrons in the campaign did not receive any missions, or few if any.
Looking at the map in real time, most missions flown by the coalition was over Kuwait, Basrah and the area closest to western Kuwait. But I guess this is by design?
This changed after I messed with the PAK-settings.Maybe add a few more F-15C and F-14A squadrons for fighter missions for HQ to draw up? Maybe EF-111s and EA-6Bs as well.
Verdict: 8,5/10 due to no more missions being generated for my squadron and others. Will fly again though!
Would be awesome to see an Operation Iraqi Freedom campaign, and a fictional modern day Iran campaign at some point.
Keep up the good work.