Question for RL Military Aviators
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In my GA experience, when comm with ATC, I always did a read back of what ATC said to me.
In the military, did you also do a read back?
I can see that Comms could get VERY busy when doing a approach with a flight of four, and other AC in the area.
Just curious.Thanks for input. Huffer Out <salute>
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Yes we always did a read back. If in formation only lead talks to atc.
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If I may ask RL military Aviators a couple of RL clarifications that may or may not cross over into BMS:-
- is the ATIS colour code used in RL (it is an option in the BMS config if you know where to look).
- is “split comms” used in RL where by VHS is received in one ear piece of the head set and UHF in the other ear piece of the head set? (again it is an option in the BMS config if you know where to look)
Many thanks,
Ironman
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@edstheone52
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@huffer2 welcome
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Yes, we read back most things—like clearances, numbers, frequencies, altitudes, etc. Sometimes a “wilco” will suffice for some actions.
In the US, we don’t use color codes with ATIS… it’s an identifier …like “<callsign>, 11 thousand two hundred descending 9 thousand information Bravo, request vectors initial “ or whatever the request is.
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Oh, and split comms is not a thing, at all. Never in my career. You hear everything in both ears….
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@mirv - I’ll add that in the airspace I operate within, and operating platforms with two (or more) radios, crews usually differentiate coms by splitting the volume on the radios - i.e.; ATC on COM1, louder/interflight on COM2, quieter; or such. Our guys generally monitor UHF on both radios and rely on ATC for relay of VHF - but can monitor VHF if rolled to a freq in that band.
interestingly, the only guys in my area that have/use VHF as primary are helos and/or Test F-16s out of KEDW- and a most of them only have one radio.For Navy ops, section/division approach under IFR is a prohibited maneuver, so this isn’t a factor with ATC - under VFR Lead and flight are simply vectored back to home plate on Leads wing in admin formation, and the manner of separating in the brake is briefed before hand - depending on fuel state, emergency, etc., playmates may/can also call for recovery as singletons on request.
Also - ATC calls addressed to a section or division are generally addressed to the Lead callsign, followed by “and flight” if they are all being directed. Depending on the call, sometimes Lead only will acknowledge, sometimes all players will - i.e.; “11 copy”, “12 copy”, etc.
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Yes… but his question was about split comms in the ear cups…. Which is not how it works in aviation.
And yes I know, every aircraft I’ve flown had at least two radios…and one had 8 radios/means of comms, with usually at least 2-3 in use simultaneously, sometimes more. Then add HAVE QUICK and SECURE options on top of a couple of them.
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@mirv - yes, understood. Was giving an example as to what is/can be done instead of using split cups.
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@mirv
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@Stevie
Thanks for your explanation. thank you for your service!