F-14D Cockpit
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Has anyone tried flying in clean configuration?
Excellent speed and acceleration but lack of agile.Turns nimble for it’s size but still no able to out-turn even F-16I with CFT .
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thanks!
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I don’t know, the F-14B has incredible thrust and ridiculous low speed handling. Since BMS doesn’t model over-g in the F-14……
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I don’t know, the F-14B has incredible thrust and ridiculous low speed handling. Since BMS doesn’t model over-g in the F-14……
Incredible? Comparing what? Because F-14 empty weight is also incredible comparing with F-15 and F-18…
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Comparing F-16 vs F-14 duel. Show me an acmi where you did not struggle to best an ace F-14 in your F-16.
F-16 vs F-15? easy.
vs F-18? easy.
vs F-14? struggle struggle.Why? As I stated earlier, Over-G isn’t modelled in BMS for the tomcat. Maintaining 9G turns is possible when in reality, the plane is supposed to disintegrate >6.8-7.2G.
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When discuess about T/W ratio,we can never forgot the lift and drag,that’s why Panther no able to match the BBC МиГ-15 with the same engine and identical T/W ratio and how Tomcat out acclerate many newer fighter jet with higher T/W ratio.
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You mean its variable geometry gives it an advantage? The MiG-23 is also quite hard to shake if you let it get behind you.
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VG wing,variable intake and lifting body design.
In the case of МиГ-23,it may easy to catch up with you as you at the control on a Eagle or Falcon.But,in the other hand however,with it’s ‘’‘excellent’‘’ maneuverability and agile,that’s really a easy prey as you can force the Flogger to do a series of turn with you.:-D
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I can only say I’d beat the Mig-29S from FC3 in my BMS F-16 anytime.
But both are beautiful…:)
TBH that was the first time I heard the F-14 had such a G limit. I was under the impression it was 8G.
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I can only say I’d beat the Mig-29S from FC3 in my BMS F-16 anytime.
But both are beautiful…:)
TBH that was the first time I heard the F-14 had such a G limit. I was under the impression it was 8G.
Anyone?Designed to be 7.5G fighter. However when it became clear the navy won’t be getting as many as they wanted, it was operationally restricted at 6.5G during peace time to preserve the airframe. Originally projected lifetime was 7000 hours of flight time and carrier operations abuse. The navy managed to prolong this lifetime to 8-9000 hours for most planes, with some being retired after 10000+ hours. Compare that to the usual lifetime of an airframe and the toil of carrier landings and it becomes clear why the restrictions. The Cats outlived the early hornets, when you take into account the dates of entering service.
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The only reason I would like a F-14 is to replay Top Gun moments and to use the “mother goose” in a sentence. Please continue your work and make my dreams come true.
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The only reason I would like a F-14 is to replay Top Gun moments and to use the “mother goose” in a sentence. Please continue your work and make my dreams come true.
i’m with this guy
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You already got mother Dave on this forums. 5 virtual beers to the chap who names his callsign.
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Hello!
New to BMS, stumbled upon this thread today, and spent a long time reading about your progress.
You have some REAL talent. You are producing a product that most other people would ask money for.I am sorry to hear about your bike wreck, I have seen several friends get seriously injured over the years to bikes.
I look forward to your release!
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There hasn’t been a motivational video in quite some time, here is a nice one for all of us, trap hunters
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You mean its variable geometry gives it an advantage? The MiG-23 is also quite hard to shake if you let it get behind you.
A few things-the only way to model over-G for an F-14 is to have a bunch of maintainers show up and give you a thumbs down after a virtual daily inspection results in a virtual conditional that shows virtual overstress. No F-14 came apart in mid air due to over-g. They have been tested to +9/-4 and operated beyond that. So there is no point in modelling over-G. A pilot in a combat situation will pull what is necessary. However, that being said-the F-14 FM is pretty good in that yes you can pull and get angles but you’ll bleed speed as well. The F-14 (please read beyond overstated, misquoted TF-30 doom engines) with 10k of fuel or less and a clean loadout, is not something any pilot will want to mess with at speeds of 350kts below 15,000 feet. It will turn inside you at lower speed and lower g and sustain it. If you want to win, keep your altitude up, your speed up, and keep a lot of energy in reserve. Most good F-14 drivers who made the switch to the super hornet would still prefer the F-14 for an Air to air engagement because its an energy maker throughout the fight, whereas the Superbug has 3 insane turns that usually result in a win or youre out of energy and cant get it back as fast as the F-14,15,16 and legacy 18. This isn’t internet opinion, its fact backed up E-M diagrams.
Of course, If you plan on taking an F-14 full of gas, with tanks and 7-8 missiles with AIM-54 pallets to a dogfight, you’re just not right in the head- but thats true of any fully loaded aircraft. This is where the relativelly low internal fuel capacity of the F-15 is at a distinct advantage as they drop their big 600 gallon fuel tanks and engage at “fighting trim” even with an 8 missile loadout. -
and I just broke my own rule about not letting this become an F-14 vs XX thread. Guilty as charged, off to play SF2:NA until this mod is released and the F-14 doesnt roll due to loadout. Great work, keep it up, and hopefully model a RIO that flips off hornet row when launching from a waist cat….
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This isn’t internet opinion, its fact backed up E-M diagrams.
I got some E-M diagrams about F-14. They said F-14 is superior in almost all zone of combat envelope… The Ps value of F-15 on same alt with same speed is higher, this means F-15 can maintain same turn rate while Eagle is clibing. Because of the climb the projected turn radius is smaller as F-14 do the same turn rate with same speed. —> F-15 can be inside the turn of F-14 AND can climb above it. The horizontal acceleration capability of F-15 is another dimension, beats easily all 4. gen figher even the F-14B with GE engine not mentioning the ‘A’ with TF30…
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Seriously guys…it sounds that you guys have enough information/material to realistically tweak the FM together with someone that knows how… Is this correct?
Molni would you share your material? TurkeyDriver?Metcalf? Would it just be a matter of starting to consolidate between the three of you the material you have now?
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Metcalf sent me, but I have only at home the diagram what he sent. Will post here today.