WIP - Libya BETA for BMS
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PS: Not disinterested in general, only I work in 2 Beta teams and already skipped one of it ATM so I split between BMS days and IL-2 days and usually IL-2 wins.:D
But BMS rocks nevertheless…one of the reasons I love IL-2 so much is that I can fly in like 20 -30 kickass theatres…so…Good Luck chaps, theatre making is what will extend this sim. -
I’ve also tried to tweak the map images in photoshop to match her up, … and result was bad.
… Good luck again.lol, alright so I’ll stick to trying to sort this thing out within gis, I did a very small search on it and seen some others conversating about how to do it, bunch of unknown lingo that they were throwing around but it appears to be possible. It’ll just take a bit to understand some of the things in gis and it’s scripts.
your projection is not defined just by “wgs84” (it is a description of the volume, you are projecting on)….sinusoidal is the type of the projection and the central point is important as well…it is not so important, what is your corner coordinate…the central lat lon is the most important imho
BTW it is quite some time now, since i posted that projection info on PMC…nobody told me that, i had to make a lot of tests…I used various freeware and payware programs (even some online, web based apps - worked fine) for tests…If the program supported sinusoidal projection over WGS84 (or was able to support custom proj. configs), the result exactly matched DEM2terr output…so still, I think it was correct info…
LukI have no idea how the projection works but I did change the transformation type to “projection” while using georeferencer to import the image from the theater and that definitely lined things up better. I believe there’s ways to set up a custom projection within gis as well but again, I’m very new to gis so I’ll have to read up on it. Big thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
I really hope to nail this down, it’d allow me to create some sat image reference photos of the theater to pop into TE as well. Having the theater preview show exactly what should be there would be a huge help.
Chaps remember I made an offer for textures, some kickass desert ones among those.
I do remember RAM linking me to some stuff that you showed him some time ago, the problem was that the textures weren’t appropriate for 1x1 tiles. But yes I have seen some really nice work done in il2 but the way that sim handles the ground textures is not the same as falcon. I do appreciate the kind gesture though!
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This is from the .hdr for the 64Seg:
This is the outputed Theater file:
Theater name: My Selection
Theater size: Regular
Size (L2 segments): 64 x 64
Size (L2 tiles): 1024 x 1024
Size (Nautical Miles): 552.377 x 552.377
Resolution: 0.134858 Nautical Miles
Centered on: Lat 34.5 Long 16
NW: Lat 39.1031 Long 10.0682
NE: Lat 39.1031 Long 21.9318
SW: Lat 29.8969 Long 10.6903
SE: Lat 29.8969 Long 21.3097
Highest point: 10354ft
Lowest point: 0ftThis is the outputed Theater file when i first tried to change it to 128Seg:
Theater name: My Selection
Theater size: Regular
Size (L2 segments): 128 x 128
Size (L2 tiles): 2048 x 2048
Size (Nautical Miles): 1104.75 x 1104.75
Resolution: 0.134858 Nautical Miles
Centered on: Lat 34.5 Long 16
NW: Lat 43.7063 Long 3.26464
NE: Lat 43.7063 Long 28.7354
SW: Lat 25.2937 Long 5.81752
SE: Lat 25.2937 Long 26.1825
Highest point: 10354ft
Lowest point: 0ftLOL!!! Guess Dem2Terrain didn’t like that much!!!
It shifts it a bit by ##.xxxxx it seems.
No biggy IMHO unless your using some tool to tile that need’s Precise Coord’s for placement like in ****dSX…LOL!!
Can’t remember which Seg theater i gave you guy’s,but both were built on the new coords.
You can check this easily by trying to fit the original Coast tile’s i made or Mapi’s island tiles to SM’s theater…won’t worktired demer
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…If the program supported sinusoidal projection over WGS84 (or was able to support custom proj. configs), the result exactly matched DEM2terr output…
LukLukas, can you tell us please which programs you’ve used?
Cheers,
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This is the outputed Theater file when i first tried to change it to 128Seg:
Theater name: My Selection
Theater size: Regular
Size (L2 segments): 128 x 128
Size (L2 tiles): 2048 x 2048
Size (Nautical Miles): 1104.75 x 1104.75
Resolution: 0.134858 Nautical Miles
Centered on: Lat 34.5 Long 16
NW: Lat 43.7063 Long 3.26464
NE: Lat 43.7063 Long 28.7354
SW: Lat 25.2937 Long 5.81752
SE: Lat 25.2937 Long 26.1825
Highest point: 10354ft
Lowest point: 0ftI just checked out these coordinates and these are definitely not the coordinates of what RAM and I have. The older coordinates that RAM posted a bit back are the ones that fit, and I’m sure of it now that I’m aware of the spherical projection used during the creation!
Lukas, can you tell us please which programs you’ve used?
Cheers,
LSBumping this so it doesn’t get skipped!
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I just checked out these coordinates and these are definitely not the coordinates of what RAM and I have. The older coordinates that RAM posted a bit back are the ones that fit, and I’m sure of it now that I’m aware of the spherical projection used during the creation!
Bumping this so it doesn’t get skipped!
Then i have no idea where that map came from?!?!?!
L2 and the rest of the Terrain File’s should be dated 10/15/2011 if they came from my rebuild.tired demer
P.S. Are the City\Airport Objectives sitting on the correct tile’s ???
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City and airports for the most part are sitting on the correct tiles, atleast the bulk of them that I’ve come across so far there’s still the odd ball here and there as common with any theater.
There’s a snapshot of the terrain folder; the dates match my oldest backup as well dated 12/18/2011.
EDIT: not sure what RAM has exactly since he continued working through the summer on this when I took a break. Believe he focused mostly on objectives and the db though.
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PMC ???
Cheers,
LSSeems so, you LazyArse……LOL!!!
City and airports for the most part are sitting on the correct tiles, atleast the bulk of them that I’ve come across so far there’s still the odd ball here and there as common with any theater.
There’s a snapshot of the terrain folder; the dates match my oldest backup as well dated 12/18/2011.
EDIT: not sure what RAM has exactly since he continued working through the summer on this when I took a break. Believe he focused mostly on objectives and the db though.
Dates don’t match. i don’t know what the RAMster did after i handed it off to him.But i gave him free reign to use the work as it was. That is how it should be in this community.
My main concern, at the time, was to erase any remnants of PMC Libya from the theater. That is why i rebuilt the map from scratch.
If we remember, i was under duress from SM at the time over this theater. Banned from PMC,insulted publicly\privately,threatened with a lawsuit…LOL!..etc.
All that,at this point, is water under the bridge. Move forward with your work and don’t worry about exact LAT\LON on a map that ANYONE can build using Dem2Terr!!!
Fix it and go on.tired demer
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Lukas, can you tell us please which programs you’ve used?
Cheers,
LSI had a chance to test full ArcGis software package when did my PhD studies at the university…lately moved from Prague to wild country…so I converted to some free programs.
First usefull free program was 3DEM software. Precised highmap export/handeling was not posible via native F4 utils at the time (lxnormal fix export did not work), so I projected my high data and used 16bit grayscale image as a reference for detailed CATE bmp map (it was hard to aim snow/rocky etc. areas around peaks without it). The projection was exactly the same.
Then tested many other programs …some of them were JAVA aplications…Flexprojector(or something) and another two proj. JAVA software…I have it probably installed/copied in my old laptop/s…I have third notebook since that time - 1st lighting strikeR.I.P., second - too tired=overheated…I lately repaired this one a bit…I also tried web based utils…unfortunally I have bad memory for names
LukP.S. worked with Microdem + another 5-6 quite fast (noJAVA) programs/utils as well (there are some standalone exe utils for conversion over the web)
the only issue is, it all eats your time… so try 3DEM and FlexProjector(?) first - i have good flashback on these two:) -
one of the many nice webs:
http://www.progonos.com/furuti/MapProj/Normal/TOC/cartTOC.html
there is a link to MicroCAM v2.03 software (resources and link in the bottom of the page)
it is made by former soldier…sounds good…i will test this one (i am freeware lover) -
the only issue is, it all eats your time….
Oh yes I know.
Thanks for your explanation.
Cheers,
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Seems so, you LazyArse……LOL!!!
BTW. did you know that if you’ll come closer to my LazyArse, you can hear LazysTone?
Cheers,
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Walking around in Lazy town and a Christmas la la la…
Nice tune…I didn’t knew we oldfarters should tune in… :rofl:
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What’s up with Libya?!
any news?
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BTW could mods please change the name of entire forum section 'cause it’s misspelled.
It’s LIBYA not Lybia…
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Some of the devs developing this theater are not here and as a far as I know this project is dead in the water, unless Demer is secretly still working!!
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They probably could never figure out where Lybia was in the world map !
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LOL!
Hey. and it’s not Vyper but Viper