Sukhoi Su-27/Su-33/Su-35/Su-30 Shenyang J-11/J-15
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Hello,
some updates :
Most of our Su-30M2 is now there… It starts to look good !
Unwrapping is not fully updated and there is still some details to take care about…
Nevertless, it’s going well !
Radium
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@Radium Greetings Radium… I have a question.
What type of avionics will the SU30SM use for AA and AG missiles?
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Hello Alejandro, I don’t really understand your question…
You mean which payload ? If so, it’s gonna be the regular payload described in all public information.
If avionics, this plane is devoted to be an AI aircraft (no russian avionics for now), therefore, it will be a customized F-16 avionics suite.
Radium
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@Radium Ohhhh then it will be used for AI in the campaigns, what a good job… Maybe in the future I will sit down to make a 3D cockpit model of the Sukhoi but first I have to finish the beta of the F-16A
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@AlejandroFAV-0 said in Sukhoi Su-27/Su-33/Su-35/Su-30 Shenyang J-11/J-15:
but first I have to finish the beta of the F-16A
Are you doing a F-16A cockpit?
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@VDK It’s not the topic of the thread !
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@Fresco Thank you so much ! Not sure however about the reliability of this chart…
For example, Kh59 is also carried centerline… Which you chart does not shows !
Thank you anyway !
Radium
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Hi Radium!
@Radium said in Sukhoi Su-27/Su-33/Su-35/Su-30 Shenyang J-11/J-15:
For example, Kh59 is also carried centerline
Careful mate, remember : carried doesn’t necessarily mean usable.
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All look fantastic. Thanks for making this, and all your other models!
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@Dee-Jay … How to say… I am most careful about everything about payload, my message was more a doubting statement than claiming anything specific. I just meant that when we are talking about Russia, we must always be caution.
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@Radium said in Sukhoi Su-27/Su-33/Su-35/Su-30 Shenyang J-11/J-15:
@Dee-Jay … How to say… I am most careful about everything about payload, my message was more a doubting statement than claiming anything specific. I just meant that when we are talking about Russia, we must always be caution.
I am sure you are. … and my comment was maybe more for other reader than for you actually. See what I mean.
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@Dee-Jay if anything, you need where to find me, I don’t like to write on forums, I always prefer vocal.
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@Radium said in Sukhoi Su-27/Su-33/Su-35/Su-30 Shenyang J-11/J-15:
@Dee-Jay if anything, you need where to find me, I don’t like to write on forums, I always prefer vocal.
Not the same for my wife mate. … Different time now since I “left” the group, she has re-discovered that she has an husband.
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@Dee-Jay said
Not the same for my wife mate. … Different time now since I “left” the group, she has re-discovered that she has an husband.
“Elvis” 'll be back!!!
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@Dee-Jay said in Sukhoi Su-27/Su-33/Su-35/Su-30 Shenyang J-11/J-15:
Hi Radium!
@Radium said in Sukhoi Su-27/Su-33/Su-35/Su-30 Shenyang J-11/J-15:
For example, Kh59 is also carried centerline
Careful mate, remember : carried doesn’t necessarily mean usable.
Exactly. I have seen image with F-16 which carried 4xAGM-88 or 4xGBU-24.
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@Radium said in Sukhoi Su-27/Su-33/Su-35/Su-30 Shenyang J-11/J-15:
@Dee-Jay … How to say… I am most careful about everything about payload, my message was more a doubting statement than claiming anything specific. I just meant that when we are talking about Russia, we must always be caution.
Considering the limitations of the ATO based on my camp. building and modding experience applying and allowing the real possible loadout is not a good idea, because it leads to strange loadout selection.
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Hello,
@molnibalage I don’t really understand the meaning of you message, sorry !
This Su-30 will have the most realistic payload from the existing public sources, according to their variants, period !
So, there will be Kh-59 series, Kh-35, Kh-30 series, Kh-29 series If I have enough evidence of their integration on the real aircraft…
Nevertheless, I have other topics to take care about right now, as converting a Su-27S into a Su-30M2 is not an easy task, and I literally work hours² to reach a decent result
I try my best to reach the best level of quality. Nevertheless, I still have a hard time fixing some parts, and it was very hard to convert Su-27S to Su-30… And it’s not completed.
Radium
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@Radium said in Sukhoi Su-27/Su-33/Su-35/Su-30 Shenyang J-11/J-15:
Hello,
@molnibalage I don’t really understand the meaning of you message, sorry !
Which part? What is about the ATO or the RL?
About RL. Just because on an airshow or any kind of display a weapon is placed on a “strange” HP it does not have any meaning.
The Kh-xx missile between the engines of the Su-30/35 is just as “real” as 4xAGM-88 on any kind of F-16. Yes, physically you can put on a rail/HP but the system is simply not able to handle. Even a toilet could be carried on a HP…
Otherwise the loadout was posted is generally correct. Su-30 compared to Su-27 got a +1 underwing station, where only PGMs could be carried on the Su-30 as I know. But the Su-35 if it wish, it can carry AAM even on that, the R-77-1.
Regarding the ATO.
It was about that AI and loadout. Allowing for ex. also FAB-100 besides FAB-250 can cause that ATO by own uses FAB-100s which are way too small for a real combat use considering the capability of the plane. It would be just a waste of sortie to fly with that.Similar issues allowing to carry more than 12x FAB-250 bombs it could lead issues in 3D world. The loadout would be simply too heavy with 24x FAB-250 bombs, it is simply not a balanced loadout considering performance and range.
Long time ago I did not fly even a single camp. mission but when I created my MOD to BMS4.32 I had to tweak many HPs because of the ATO AI behavior.