It might be time to look into a Vietnam theater again
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In case you guys haven’t seen it, Qawa has a working F-4 Phantom pit in the works. The only thing that’s been holding me back from working on a Vietnam theater is the lack of a flyable Vietnam-era jet.
With the Phantom forthcoming, I think it might be time to take a hard look at this theater again. I know some of you have been possibly working on this underground for a while.
If I can get a decent terrain, I have some campaign ideas already to start on.
Let’s get the dialogue started, fellas…
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This sounds wonderful, I would totally be in on a Nam theater. WIth the phantom in the mix I would be a big fan. I dont know much if anything about creating a theater but would want to help out if possible.
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DUNNO about this one Mike???
Having the F4 by Qawa is good. BUT developing a 'NAM theater via PMC may get you a Snakebite.Just saying,
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Would be perfect for the 80’s theater?
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As it happened before there is newly born enthusiasm and energy to make something for Falcon!
And I must admit, not comletely without any merit, or lack of certain prerequisites to make it possible. Indeed there is perhaps more related “underground” stuff on our hardrives than meets the public eyes here on BMS forum.
However, the main impediment, as I see, is slow and inevitable perhaps retirement of dedicated, commited and trully understanding what Falcon is all about DOERS, who would be able to put together such a monumental task as NAM theater for Falcon BMS.
I hope that I am totally wrong here!
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As seen below PMC Vietnam Theater was 128 seg theater. And that seems OK. Any 1/4 size 64 seg does not really make good representation of this theater not to mention that it cuts off major ABs from where the airoperations where conducted.
EDIT: I removed the picture of the theater because it was wrong. Actually 64 seg could do!
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That would be great, but how many other incomplete or WIP theaters are there? I think it would be far better if the teams involved all pooled their expertise, experience and know how to get one theater properly finished, and start on the next one that needs finishing.
The Phantom can be used in the Korea theater, Israel and also Mods like Molnis 80’s theater ….so there is no shortage of places to fly it already…
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Here’s my “dream team”:
Toonces: Project manager, order of battle development
Demer928: Terrain build and debugging
Polak: Tiling
Chuckles (and his minions): Campaign design
Ram22: Campaign, object, theater consultant/troubleshooter
Molnibalage: Database manager and developer
Khronik: Installation/OCI developer
Neystratiou: Airbases/radio navigation aid developmentThe terrain will be no larger than 64 segments. Focus of the first campaign will be the “Easter Offensive” with special attention paid to North Vietnam/Route Pack 6. Bullseye is Hanoi and we work from there such that all of N. Vietnam is captured, plus whatever 64 segments gets us of South Vietnam.
Timeline:
Initial terrain development: 1 month
Tiling: 1.5 months
Leveling/debugging terrain: 1 month
Object placement/linking: 1-2 months
Campaign development: 1 month
Campaign debugging: 1 month
Release: 6-7 months from start -
Ok, I am game. My minions and I will put our hat in the ring.
BTW Mike, I really like your approach of breaking up the work so that the members have a clearly defined objective and do what they do best.
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Let me know whatever you need… I’m also doing UI at the moment.
That reminds me I need to finish the one for Balkans… arrg!
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I expect Mother Dave to post up his draft of the terrain shortly.
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It will be nice for me to work with so nice devs.
Mike, how many airports has the theater in order to estimate my work in NavAids section and see the timing?
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Let’s wait and see if Mother Dave and Ted bite…then we can start talking details.
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This is the old theater idea I’m tossing around. Just to be clear, there will be no PMC-related material in this theater, if we decide to do it. It’s either 100% from scratch, or not at all.
http://tactical.nekromantix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=21905
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Mike and All,
I’ll support this project.Normally, I would rather vigorously oppose the idea of making tiles ready in 4-6 weeks, but this time I’ll leave this without further ATM comments. What is expected time frame for the model of F4 and its great 3D cockpit available?
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Let’s wait and see if Mother Dave and Ted bite…then we can start talking details.
So Ted is in ;).
We must wait for answer from: “demer928”, “Molnibalage” and “RAM22”.
Let’s see…
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It has been several days this is up, so I guess curtain down on Nam theater?
Pitty, but I understand that commitment like this could be very detrimental to one’s free time. No escaping of that, despite ambitious schedules. -
Now Hold on a 'dang minute Ted, I’m toying with this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yankee_Station_Location_1.gif
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While in the throngs of despair, Dave rescues the Falcon community with a promise of Vietnam to come:D
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Now Hold on a 'dang minute Ted, I’m toying with this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ya…Location_1.gifSome sources dispute historical validity of Yankee Station location given by Wikipedia. According to them this was correct position which was further north. Then I am wondering if Yankee Station was fixed position , or they were moving further north during certain campaigns.
Anyway , glad you are tinkering with Nam theater Dave.
The North Vietnam Air Force (VPAF) had sustained some significant losses in early 1972 - primarily from my fellow Navy fighter pilots. By the time we finally had worked our way north from “Dixie Station” to “Yankee Station” and to the air war over North Vietnam, the enemy’s MiG’s were starting to become very reluctant to engage Navy fighters.
[Note: The common and often repeated, depicted point from Wikipedia for Yankee Station is inaccurate and incorrect.]