Tried the ramp start tutorial…...
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So in other words, smasha is a douche bag and we should not waste our time responding to his ridiculous comments anymore? Check. And done!
I don’t think it’s malice but it is very frustrating. He wants to. He doesn’t want to. He’s joining. He’s leaving. In. Out. Doing. Impossible. I love you. I hate you. I can. I can’t. I’m here. I’m gone. Hello. Goodbye.
I can teach a blind person who only speaks Italian (foreign language) to fly BMS if I have to, but I cannot help anyone who doesn’t want it. The only requirement is not to throw your hands in the air and give up. And sadly smasha gives up about once every 23 minutes.
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There’s a quote I come across every so often, and I am every time enthralled by its elegance of wordplay as well as its appropriateness.
It is your Attitude, and not your Aptitude, that determines your Altitude.
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I don’t think it’s malice but it is very frustrating. He wants to. He doesn’t want to. He’s joining. He’s leaving. In. Out. Doing. Impossible. I love you. I hate you. I can. I can’t. I’m here. I’m gone. Hello. Goodbye.
I can teach a blind person who only speaks Italian (foreign language) to fly BMS if I have to, but I cannot help anyone who doesn’t want it. The only requirement is not to throw your hands in the air and give up. And sadly smasha gives up about once every 23 minutes.
Guys … Stop talking about him.
No need to waste your time.
Smasha is an old “friend” (or shloud I say, a chameleon) well known here (and elsewhere) who is specialist of big pointless posts talking about himself, or about what Falcon4 should be according to his extended experience of flight simulators.
With a highly potential sociopath issue, sometimes musician, sometimes RL pilot IFR qualified, sometimes completely overhelmed by a simple ramp start procedure … he were never be able to restrain himself of having such behavior on forums trying to be THE official “forum animator”. The only things he was ever be able to provide to the community is his inexhaustible “Creative Juice ”So please welcome him (for the fifth time) … and try to remember who he really is before answering to his “questions”.
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At least he doesn’t get personal like some others do IMO.
If he annoys someone, just put him on your ignore list. Whats so difficult about that?
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At least he doesn’t get personal like some others do IMO.
If he annoys you, just put him on your ignore list. Whats so difficult about that?
If you are talking to me …
1st: I can’t put anybody into ignore list since my job is moderation here.
2nd: This is spam only. "Smasha is logged since 2011 … Do not tell me that in 3 years he wasn’t able to learn ramp start if he really wants to. My guess is that either he already knows it … or, never really tried.
3rd: He is lying to the kind and patient guys who are aswering his posts and who are trying to “help” him.
4rd: I take it personal if I want.
Last: This not a democray here if do still didn’t realized it.Now, if you prefer, we can simply ban him again and wait him to come again with another pseudo and another story?
Personaly, I vote we keep him alone living his life alone and enjoying some of the (rare) good threads here, IF he doesn’t disturb the other users with unnecessary spams.
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well, unless Im missing something here, you are the first person to bring up the virtual instructor dead horse in this thread?
So, now we are plenty on the topic unfortunately, let me help you understand why I am saying this …
@smasha:
Thank you but I would love a hands on tutorial in the pit.
I can watch this alot and still forget but if I just did that BMS tutorial 5 times a day,I reckon I would be able to memorise it.
Is the tutorial broken in BMS?
OK ,LOL I found that dam button by looking at this thank you.Will take a month I reckon of 5 times a day to learn the ramp start lol.
@SkyKnight:
Why an "A.i Instructor Cadet Training Course Program with an F-16D Shared Cockpit Mod"
If I may as this is a spin-off of another thread, I would partially agree that community feels that learning the F4 Sim at present and past has always been about reading the manual and other material, although the learning aspect and approach by some might mean reading material and watching YouTube tutorials and apply those lessons independently to acquire those skills as time permits and joining online squadrons for coaching or further training, some might work thru TE’s but still struggle thru the steep learning curve as they continue to refer to F4 Manual’s and Forum, this is where the power of an "A.i Instructor Cadet Training Program using the F-16D Shared Cockpit really helps out the F4 student a “Play as You Learn” approach!
Any individual taking on a SIM yet alone the F4 concept of sim must processes it in small steps and guided by rank and tutorials similar to “FSXGOLD” where you are challenged with missions and alike to acquire the ranks, medals and experience of commercial or combat pilots.
The original concept of F4 was this very concept taking small chunks thru the TEs for practice and working thru the campaigns for experience and pilot development and reading and studying the manuals.
What has always been missing in my opinion is a proper “CADET TRAINING PROGRAM” like in a real life Air Force like in the Jetstream Series here
eg.
Many members shy away from F4 because it’s a huge learning curve with all the reading and studying many members are in college or have families, work commitments and household responsibilities which absorb much of the time otherwise they would have spent hours with peers online or coaching methods used by squadrons.
Respecting other pilots in community who cannot for various reasons commit to a squadron flying sim over 10hrs a week, but only have a spare 1 or 2hr in the day to work thru the sim and enjoy some fun whilst they fly it.
I don’t think a bulling mentality by community members is going to help others I have had a look at some profiles some of you are engineers and even scientist congrats on your accomplishments btw but respect others because some are just still in there college years and some just work in menial job placements and dont deserve to be put down, okay, fair is fair!
In fact I was sent an email by a guy I invited here who enjoys the F4 Sim but was stumped by the huge learning curve I suggested to him to keep at it step by step read the manual and practice.
Well since then I have thought of this proposal.
As previously mentioned some members in community are scientists and aviation engineers and have been in F4 community since the original Falcon 3.0 release from Microprose and even earlier and have forgotten how hard it was to learn the F4 Sim since then it has become more complicated and 4 time the reading material since the original Falcon 4.0 Manual.
So please respect others in community who are learning or either in college or have menial job placements and/or are not that accustomed to studying or have much time to study but just want to play a Sim like F4 as hard and as it is and realistic and difficult as it is and will be with continual developments and more add-ons etc etc etc… ie new air craft (F-18 A and C Upgrade also F-16A Development ) etc etc.
I don’t see how/or that it would deviate or trouble anyone or the direction and development of the F4 Sim in fact I believe it embraces more pilots to join and be apart of the community at all levels with this “Cadet Training Component” as they develop the acquired skills in there own time and possibly join a squad at a much later date!
Also I believe it could be enhanced for further advanced training add-ons for the experienced F4 members ie. Red Flag Operations, Mission Recon Operations and situational awareness using the F-16D Shared Cockpit. etc etc
I personally have read the original F4 manual many times also C:\Falcon BMS 4.32\Docs and there is heaps to read in that folder many months of reading if not a year or two for some.
I think that’s what some in community are saying they just want to get in and play the F4 Sim, yes I know what some of you think already as I have read the posts in Forum but lucky thou its not a sim for some but all who would like to learn.
Lets not be selfish but help others and speed them thru the learning curve rather than push them away rudely!
Let efforts and ideas flourish in Community WIP/MODs if they serve the purpose of continuing F4 well into its future.
My idea is to have all the necessary skills required in the manuals to be an F4 pilot built into the F4 Sim in the proposal “The A.i Instructor Cadet Training Program” that means very little reading but the intent is … “Play as you Learn”!
A more sophisticated and realistic approach like a real life Air Force Cadet in Training in pilot school!
This would be a revolution to attract younger crowds again to Sims like F4 and BMS could be a pioneer and leader in this with this proposal.
Remember 80% is young crowd in the gaming market, the "Play as You Learn Concept is vital for F4 Sim survival and to properly train new pilots, which is less work for online F4 instructors coaching new cadets in multiplay as they have gone thru the “A.i Cadet-ship” and have passed the competency check lists and instrument rating certification, and now ranked to join online squadrons for further training and development.
The A.i Instructor Cadet Training Program Proposal Explained
- Offline Training
Utilizing an A.i Instructor F-16D Shared Cockpit approach for offline training, by simply activating the A.i Instructor program in the setup GUI menu like the current script feature which you can enable for TE’s training, although this proposal is more sophisticated and realistic.
So then you select in menu say you wish to learn and master Ramp Start’s the Training is similar to the SP3 Ramp Start Trainer with flashing switches for user to be lead or guided by the A.i instructor which also provides audio mentoring and further information as you follow instructions he might train you on brevity code and get you to repeat it as an idea also etc etc
There is also this tool:- http://pittrainer.sourceforge.net/ …. similar to SP3 Ramp Start Trainer
This could be done for, instrumentation rating, weapons deployment like LGB, Dogfights, ILS landing, Carrier operations with audio mentoring on principles and how to’s ……etc etc etc.
The method is to cross train in the same jet being the F-16D Shared Cockpit with instructor from offline to online to keep it uniform and a base application utilising the same flight model, avionics and aviation principles and ease of use for cadet like in real life of an Air force combat pilot.
- Online Training
Also for online real life coaching you can use the F-16D Cockpit with the same principle but no A.i since its live online training just the flashing switches like SP3 Ramp Start Trainer on the cadets cockpit.
A very positive approach and encouraging for new comers!
So to introduce an A.i Instructor Cadet Program for beginners and even advanced F4 simmers it would be a WIP over time say 1 or 2 years in a development.
In fact it would stop the time spent on recreating manuals for every major update or release of F4, and get more pilots trained properly and plugged into sim sooner rather than months or years down the track.
All that would be needed is checklist for Start-up Avionics and TACAN maps, Recon coordinate maps, Air Base IAP Approach Charts etc etc just the in flight essentials. More here https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?9044-BMS-Electronic-Flightbag-(Android) thanks to Kosmo.
Also you can switch between both as your still in the same F-16D Shared Cockpit that is "Offline Combat Training and Online Multiplay Operational and Procedural Training and really speed the learning curve as you play!
Its starts as a cadet training course and new BMS-F4 recruit where a specific set of needs to be successfully finalized, before commissioned to full tactical fighter pilot to be sent into a war campaign scenario.
After receiving a medal and rank of completion you perform at an Air Show to demonstrate your skills as a combat pilot. (Fun aspect)
So many possibilities here for this adding all that is proposed “HERE” also it could be used in combat for situational awareness and more just think of the possibilities.
A project over time adding more as the F4 Sim becomes more complex, i.e other AC etc etc
The Air Show demonstration competency course prepares you in these categories:-
1. Basic flight training
2. Ramp Start
3. Taxing
4. Take-off and Landing
5. Formation – Hand eye Coordination
6. Radio Comms Synchronization
7. Navigation
8. Flares
9. Stunts
10. Dogfight Simulation
11. Bomb CCIP Simulation
12. Aerobatics and Formation
Eg: Demonstration Maneuver Profiles:
1. Maximum Performance Takeoff and Climb to Cuban 8
2. High Speed Flat Pass
3. Triple Aileron Roll
4. High-G Turn
5. Four-Point Roll
6. Double Immelmann
7. Split-S
8. Falcon Turn
9. Shark’s Tooth
10. High Alpha Pass
11. Muscle Climb
12. Knife Edge Pass
13. Maximum Performance Climb with Rolls
14. Spiral Descent
15. Dedication Pass
16. Tactical Pitch-Up to Landing
17. Combat loop
18. Imelman
19. Barrel RollOnce you pass these levels of competencies of combat fighter pilot prerequisites and proven by the Air Show Demonstration, you then become a commissioned fighter pilot to take part in real war operations and start campaigns and join squadron ranks.
Also the idea is to have a proper Air Base or Air Bases in different Theaters to host as Training grounds like the Kotar Training Range and for Air Show Festival with stationed planes on runways or sectioned with proper show ground barriers, people walking around, a bombing range and a festival games rides section.
Example:-
This would be a WIP over a couple of years but worth it and this proposal to be an interesting read CADET TRAINING PROGRAM an excellent proposal for new comers this effort combined with the F-16D Cockpit would be the way to add more pilots and fun to the sim and a place for all who enjoy the F4 Concept and continue development.
Also simply add the option to play online as "BMS - Air Demonstration and Aerobatics Squad with participating teams with either customized Skins or real life SQN’s skins!
Like this ie:- Turkish Virtual Aerobatic Air Force
A little freedom to have fun and perform Aerobatics, stunts and show off your combat skills!
This would include annual competitions held for fun with a medal award system!
Now can you imagine as BMS moves along new theaters, planes and skins come along this will be a treasure.
BMS has this already on offer the Air Show feature under line 49 - Air Show Festival in Tactical Engagements Korean Theater with the Thunderbirds skin, which this area of F4 sim could offer allot more with added Skins like (Thunderbirds, Roulettes, Red Arrows, Black Knights etc), Airbases, show grounds, theaters. etc
Also can you imagine new mod’s, planes, adding colored smoke effects, Formation squads etc etc etc!
Lots of fun to be had!
I leave this proposal in Forum in hope that the BMS Dev team or someone in community who has the skills and time to create this program would take into consideration the whole view of a A.i Cadet Training Program upon becoming a fully commissioned Fighter Combat Pilot which adds value to BMS and is a good start point for new comers to the F4 Sim and experience a realistic simulated effort in becoming a F4-Fighter Pilot.
A revolution in training and advanced training in F4 Sim concepts, and BMS could be a pioneer and a leader in training concepts also!
I also would say BMS F4 would need two seater working cockpits for other A/C like the F-16D, F-18D, T-38 Talon etc Trainer Jets for cadet training purposes with proposal mentioned here if and hopefully ever implemented as it develops further. This would be for cross training purposes in a various jets.
I’m thinking ahead here say Squads that fly F-18’s and others that stick to F-16’s or other A/C like Mirages, SU’s etc etc since in MP some squads will be piloting other A/C and Blue VS Red as example is the theme in combat missions etc etc….
This will train pilots effectively and efficiently making better pilots trained on all operations, processes and procedures adhering to all competencies examinations required to be an F4 pilot sooner to reduce the learning curve due to the " A.i Cadet Training Program" as an efficient way and smart approach using a unified approach to accomplish and train F4 pilots ready to join squadrons.
Awesome!
“Ready For Graduation Time”! … … Yipppiiiiiieeeeee…
*So Request is, Can we make it a WIP for anyone with the talent to create this program and make it upgradable for new code and add-ons etc ?!?!?
PLEASE!
Or put a "Call-Out to Sim/Game community in other Forums like SimHQ and get this done many F4 members in community would love to have this proposal at least a Thumbs Up “WIP” is all that would be needed at this stage, no rush F4 is not going anywhere!
Just sharing my creative juices!
Cheers,
SkyKnight
… Better get the point of Smasha’s comedy now?
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Dee-Jay, i didn’t mean especially you, sorry for the missunterstanding. You’re a moderator and you know for sure how to handle this issue, no doubt about that.
But i did read words like “douchebag” and some other not very kind words that was what i wondered about.
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Ok. sorry but I do not know what is the side meaning of “douchebag”
Lets close the subject as we gave all what we could to help him to face that unresolvable problem.
Rather than talking about his life and his suicidal tendencies for which we can do nothing except advising a threrapy, better for him to read, re-read and re-re-read again available documents and watching video tutorial.
There will be no Virtual Instructor in BMS anyway… It will be a FFOSC feature.If still impossible for him because of real intelectual limitations (his words, not mine, right?), he will have to give up flight simulators, or start his flight on Taxi.
Just no “spams” here … And try to stay discret this time SmashTagKnightMan.
Thank you for understanding and whish you the best success in your quest of a better Falcon4BMS experience.
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But i did read words like “douchebag” and some other not very kind words that was what i wondered about.
I’m just calling a spade a spade, and yes there is malice intent on his part, and yes I was correct in my assumption. Why people like skynight/smasha/whatever the crap he goes by now resort to such idiocracy just astounds me
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well if there is malicious intent, its pretty bloody patient at that….
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well if there is malicious intent, its pretty bloody patient at that….
Blu, I would bet money that smasha/skynight/wraith knows full well how to ramp start, he certainly has promoted freefalcon enough in the past and never seemed to have issues with doing it in that. And let’s get a show of hands of everyone that has PM’d him offering to help, cause I’m sure I’m not the only one. Instead his intent is to make BMS look “too hard” for the average joe to learn, which is a crock. Either he ain’t got nothing right on the left side of his brain and nothing left on the right side of his brain, or he’s up to his old bag of tricks. Either way at least he so far has spared us the page long monotonous repetitive rants
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Show of hands?
Alright, I PM’d him with an offer to help, and the offer was taken up. Then walked him through a ramp start after about a half hour going over planned maneuvering for the flight and briefing (my briefings are slow/take some time). Hence my comment about being patient… someone patient enough to sit through one of my briefs then get walked through a ramp start strikes me as someone interested in beating the belief that its too hard.
So far all I have seen is DeeJays blind assertion that this guy is Skyknight, and yet apparently Deejay isnt confident enough in that belief to ban him.
Frankly unless you have something like it being the same IP address, or same computer name or something I call BS. Ive had worse students than Smasha based on the one flight we did.
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I honestly don’t know fully how to ramp start but I’m getting there.
Removed the pilot’s legs mod successfully and track ir is working much better now.I’ve been doing 5k walks at night time and they have been beneficial.
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If smasha is not skynight then I wholeheartedly apologize, but so far he hasn’t denied it yet, which you think he would’ve by now considering all the fuss. Same avatar on all his aliases. Coincidence? Let’s ask smasha….
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Who is skynight?
Sorry all ,I have calmed down since I have started doing my long walks again.
I was out of line and I apologise.
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LOL I have no clue who skynight is.
I live in Australia.
Where does he live?
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LMAO I just googled skynight and bms together and found a website and he has the exact same avatar LMAO.
Purely accidental everyone.
Funny though.
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