Maddog
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Yeah I hear ya. In the F18 can’t see if jammer on etc. and far less functionality available.
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Is it possible to launch ARH in maddog mode (not TWS) in BMS 4.32? If yes, how?
In F4 AF it was possible using just fire button….but in BMS no launch. I am trying lock on after launch, but no sucess ATM -
I have it (Demo´s answer from another thread…it works fine …i am trying it useing just laptop keyboard BTW):
For Mad Dog select BORE on the SMS page with the AIM-120 selected. Press and hold the pickle button when you want to shoot.I did a quick modification of AA-12 to get R24R (missile radar range is only about blast radius)…it works fine, I am able to relock JAMMING target with my weak MiG-23 radar! If I break lock (turn off radar) just before impact, my R24 lost the target and is balistic, no pitbull
Now I am trying LOAL…R24 is cool -
For missile evasion try this classic article:
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For Mad Dog select BORE on the SMS page with the AIM-120 selected. Press and hold the pickle button when you want to shoot.
You can fire a Maddog by simply holding down HOTAS cursor enable (Shift + N by default), and while you do that, press pickle. No fiddling around with SMS is required.
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You can fire a Maddog by simply holding down HOTAS cursor enable (Shift + N by default), and while you do that, press pickle. No fiddling around with SMS is required.
perhaps i am doing something wrong, but Shift+N does not work for me (i have the same shortcut for it)…I can fire maddog only via SMS -> BORE… but I am not able to take control over the missile…if I lock the target after launch, missile is going old uguided path…if i switch to SLAVE, its for second missile, not the first, fired one
Howto take control over previously fired missile in BORE mode?
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…. but I am not able to take control over the missile…if I lock the target after launch, missile is going old uguided path…if i switch to SLAVE, its for second missile, not the first, fired one
Howto take control over previously fired missile in BORE mode?
Can’t do it. If you fire maddog, it is maddog to the end.
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perhaps i am doing something wrong, but Shift+N does not work for me (i have the same shortcut for it)
It’s been a long time since I had been using the keyboard for controlling stuff like that, so I’m not sure if I recalled correctly - but I remeber using cursor enable via keyboard as a bid finicky. However, using Morphine’s Warthog profile I got cursor enable mapped to the slew control cursor button function. Holding down cursor enable using this button, pressing pickle, and then releasing cursor enable after launch works like a charm for me.
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…then LOAL mode for my new R-24R (AA-7C) is not possible
Because it has literaly no active radar (rather few feet “proximity senzor”) it cant lock onto target without support AC radar …I use ARH code just because it is much more advanced compared to SARH code.I am quite sure, it was possible to fire amraam in maddog mode (F4AF), then lock the target - and missile got mid-course update and turned to target
I have used it in BVR dogfights against human oponent.
BTW I was able to fire maddog using mentioned shortcut
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BTW I was able to fire maddog using mentioned shortcut
Great! Happy hunting (until you have to roll back your Logbook because some Maddog downed a friendly aircraft, giving you a big red friendly kill in your campaign statistics, since those f***** things track anything that looks jucy to them… ;))
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Oh and btw: cursor enable is also quite useful for other purposes, like switching between Maverick modes (PRE, VIS, BORE), and selecting HARM modes. I know, not relevant concerning OP; it’s just some info for the sake of completeness.
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I must say, this new re-lock feature is amazing in game….I really enjoy it even without LOAL. Super funny SARH combats, AIs use it without problems. It is gamechanger - the missiles can still miss most of the time, but these are near miss, no more balistic drops right after the launch. MiG-23 ML radar is weak, so it is still hard vs F15…but if I have a lock…fire a missile…powerfull F15 JAM or chaffs brake the lock- I can see missile is restoring course to target after small drop. JAM is effective, chaffs are effective, but nothing is holy.
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For missile evasion try this classic article:
I had quite specific technical question…is there answer howto LOAL inside posted webpage? (seems a bit generic to me)…?
sorry my english is worse each day -
AIM-120 has three states in flight: commanded, inertial, autonomous. OK I forgot home on jam but let’s forget that.
Long range off the rail it is commanded. If track is lost or target is unbugged (snip) then it goes inertial (last known point of intercept, internal logic only). Once inertial it never never goes back to commanded. It doesn’t matter if you accidentally unlock the target for 1/2 second, it’s snipped forever. The only reason the AIM-120 isn’t super easy to notch and defeat in the command phase is that F-16 radar tracks will coast for many seconds.
I don’t know of any CG A2A missile which is able to fire outside of command guidance and later reacquire CG navigation.
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Even if I lock target in RWS mode, I go to STT-> DF mode before launch to hold it - and my missile can re-lock multiple times (so I am DF mode, aiming at target most of time).
I don’t know of any CG A2A missile which is able to fire outside of command guidance and later reacquire CG navigation.
on top of my head - ancient SA-2 was able to do it (blind launch + lock) even Falcon 3.0 and AF simulated this…i know it is SA missile, but very old and electronic was miniaturized later
I am not rocket scientist, but I know many advanced SARHs have sophisticated CCM systems, LOAL ability and some perhaps 2 way datalink to change its interception course…AA9 can be even guided by different MiG etc. The reality is very interresting, but there is huge gap in simulator - all SARHs are dumb and weak (share the same code from AA-1 or AA-2B, through AiM-7M to AA-9 imo?) , ARHs are much much better…
The only reason the AIM-120 isn’t super easy to notch and defeat in the command phase is that F-16 radar tracks will coast for many seconds.
Perhaps some delay in radar track is the reason why ARHs can re-acquire lost targets in Falcon…I dont know…but SARHs go balistic after milisecond, there is no way howto save missile…so if this is the only way to go…