Cockpit sounds in headset and outside in speakers. DONE!
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Interesting I have been after this feature for a while.
I can confirm using 5.1 speaker settings that selecting centre speaker has cockpit sounds only (Betty, RWR etc.) and the annoying inverter clicking sound, but it is in mono so a simple mono to stereo converter plug could solve this to receive in a stereo headset.
Nice find!
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Oh shit!
Maybe the biggest find of the year!
This is maybe why any ppl using a 5.1 is missing the comms and Betty!!!?!
I think that even coder never paid attention to this ….! Let me ask them …
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Hi,
it is a simple physical plug choosing. In you sound card with that connectors, plug your 5.1 headset only in green plug. I mean: let the orange one disconnected. You can let the black one if you wish (no sound from it AFAIK). And in the same sound card plug your 5.1 speakers in the orange one ONLY. Yes, you will loose 5.1 surround enviroment but in BMS it doesn’t work anyway.I have other test to do by duplicating output to two different 5.1 sound cards in the same PC and plugging in the correct color in each one.
As easy as it seems!!! And it works like a charm!
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mrwell, I will try to do this tonight on my home PC … If it works, I will kiss your butt and it will be considered as an amazing discovery!!!
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And not only that, maybe this is the reason why in other not modeled aircrafts (F18, F14, etc) when you ride in you only hear internal sounds…
There is no audio from the external sound channel! :mrgreen:
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mrwell, I will try to do this tonight on my home PC … If it works, I will kiss your butt and it will be considered as an amazing discovery!!!
Lol, thanks very much. My pleasure to provide something for the community
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Wow, so if i read you correctly, i can seperate outside BMS audio (engine, landinggear etc… ) to my normal 2.0 speaker set and play the internal sounds (betty, AI comms) + IVC in my headset? That would be really cool! I’ll try it this evening!
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Oh shit!
Maybe the biggest find of the year!
This is maybe why any ppl using a 5.1 is missing the comms and Betty!!!?!
I think that even coder never paid attention to this ….! Let me ask them …
IM using 5.1, and not missing comms or betty…?
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You could miss it depending on how you set your 5.1 up.
Something similar happened to me with ARMAIII. I missed front sounds till I set it up correctly. -
IM using 5.1, and not missing comms or betty…?
Maybe because your sound card is not set 5.1 or configured properly or an exception … or …
But:
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?5482-Sound-Troubles
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Its actually configured in a 7.1 configuration, with nothing plugged into the side speakers port- being a 5.1 speaker system thats plugged in, I dont own side speakers to plug in.
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Maybe I missed it but, how does IVC fit into the “mix”?
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That’s the second part of my research. I read a lot about forcing a program to this or that audio card so I think it won’t be difficult BUT, since I want IVC to be on the headset I have to deal with how to do it to keep both things: separated external and internal sounds and having IVC where internals are.
I plan to make my own IVC network to test. Maybe it is going through center channel of 5.1 and is already solved… If not, I’ll see what to do -
Its actually configured in a 7.1 configuration, with nothing plugged into the side speakers port- being a 5.1 speaker system thats plugged in, I dont own side speakers to plug in.
I think you should probably set it to 5.1 configuration if you only have 5.1 speakers, so that the side channels are mixed down into the speakers you do have. Otherwise you lose the sound on those channels. I don’t know if BMS actually sends anything to them though.
Alternatively, you might be OK if you set it to 7.1 but untick the speakers you don’t have, which should force it to mix them down to the speakers you do have.
I found a weird bug with the Realtek control panel a while ago, where if I set it to Stereo (I only had two speakers) it would lose the center channel, which was very obvious when playing games with dialogue as you could barely hear it. What I had to do was set it to 5.1 and then untick the speakers I didn’t have (i.e. everything except for the front speakers) which forced it to mixdown the other channels into the front two. They might have fixed that now though.
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That’s the second part of my research. I read a lot about forcing a program to this or that audio card so I think it won’t be difficult BUT, since I want IVC to be on the headset I have to deal with how to do it to keep both things: separated external and internal sounds and having IVC where internals are.
I plan to make my own IVC network to test. Maybe it is going through center channel of 5.1 and is already solved… If not, I’ll see what to doFrom what others have posted, it sounds like the IVC is sent to the Default Communications Device, which can be set to the same as the Default Device and then you’ll have everything being output by the same soundcard, or you can set the Default Communications Device to a different device (second soundcard, USB headset) and then the IVC will be output to that, with the remaining sounds output from the Default Device.
I guess if you’ve got an analogue headset and two soundcards, you could set the Default Communications Device to the second one, then build a little mixer to mix the output from the second card and the orange output on the first card together, so you get both IVC and internal cockpit sounds in the headset, with the external sounds coming out the speakers connected to the green output (and black if you’re using rear speakers and BMS supports that). I wouldn’t have thought the orange line level output would be high enough to drive headphones though, so you might need to add a little headphone amp into the mixer for that.
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Very nice find mrwell! With my single onboard 5.1 audio soundcard I can get AI, Comms (didn’t test IVC), Betty in my headphones and other sound trough my speakers. I had to set my setup from speakers to 5.1 in my audio panel. Only problem is that i hear the AI and comms in one ear.
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@Doveman What I have to check is which channel IVC audio is sent to. If is sent to all of them, I have to search for another approach… If is sent to front… same issue. If is sent to center/subwoofer is perfect I already have an small mixer just in case
@Bertuz I tried that with normal 2.1 headphones too and it happened the same: only mono audio. I don’t have problems with that because with 5.1 headset works fine.
If someone know why is heard stereo in a 5.1 headset connected to a single output of the 5.1 system with only one stereo plug and mono in 2.1 headphones with the same type of plug, please let us know
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I think you should probably set it to 5.1 configuration if you only have 5.1 speakers, so that the side channels are mixed down into the speakers you do have. Otherwise you lose the sound on those channels. I don’t know if BMS actually sends anything to them though.
Alternatively, you might be OK if you set it to 7.1 but untick the speakers you don’t have, which should force it to mix them down to the speakers you do have.
I found a weird bug with the Realtek control panel a while ago, where if I set it to Stereo (I only had two speakers) it would lose the center channel, which was very obvious when playing games with dialogue as you could barely hear it. What I had to do was set it to 5.1 and then untick the speakers I didn’t have (i.e. everything except for the front speakers) which forced it to mixdown the other channels into the front two. They might have fixed that now though.
That bug is the reason its set to 7.1 - on 5.1 for some reason it was skipping a channel (cant remember which one). The solution was to set it to 7.1 and untick the side speakers, which corrected it. I dont recall it affecting BMs though, I noticed it playing Arma and it was directional dialogue that let me notice.
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Anyone tried???
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Well I did, but I only get comms in one ear of my headphones. Any idea how to fix that?