Yet Another T.16000M FCS HOTAS Review and Setup
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Following the exchange with Slicerer, i made and released a new version of the package (v5) which is compatible out-of-the-box with TFRP (pedals).
For this, i needed to change some of the axes used by TWCS though, so if you use v5 package, make sure you re-assign proper axes in BMS conifg. -
Am I doing things right, because my result is that I get a “Thrustmaster Combined” -device instead of a “virtual game controller”. Setting up for BMS 4.34, so when the script is on, in windows device list I have T16000M, TCWS Throttle with a yellow warning mark “device not working properly” and then the “thrustmaster combined” -device. In BMS I have the T16000M set as the preferred device and I can see also the “combined” device and I can map axis etc. in to it in the advanced tab and the throttle works. When I press the throttle POV hat it seems to work. Instead of function it displays some different numbers when i press it.
Edit: Actually now the throttle has also the correct functions in the buttons and POV hat. So seems to work even though the name is “thrustmaster combined”.
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Amazing piece of work, all worked first time and saved me hours, or most probably days of work. The only difference is that I get a “Thrustmaster Combined” device instead of a “Thrustmaster Virtual Game Controller (root)” same as in the previous post.
One question regarding the buttons mapped for press and hold - when pressing and holding a button does the primary function execute first followed by the secondary function or does only the secondary function execute thus ignoring the primary function.
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Amazing piece of work, all worked first time and saved me hours, or most probably days of work. The only difference is that I get a “Thrustmaster Combined” device instead of a “Thrustmaster Virtual Game Controller (root)” same as in the previous post.
Well as long as everything works it’s ok i guess. Do you have the pedals?
One question regarding the buttons mapped for press and hold - when pressing and holding a button does the primary function execute first followed by the secondary function or does only the secondary function execute thus ignoring the primary function.
Only the secondary function is executed when you press (hold) long.
This technically implies that the primary function is only triggered once you release the button after a short press, instead of when you press it, but you won’t notice the difference much. -
Do you have the pedals?
No, just using the joystick twist for the rudder. Why do you ask?
Only the secondary function is executed when you press (hold) long.
This technically implies that the primary function is only triggered once you release the button after a short press, instead of when you press it, but you won’t notice the difference much.So that’s how you managed it, quite a clever solution
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My sim has humming along nicely and I stopped training for the day and shortly after my power went out. After the power came back on I tried playing the sim and my HOTAS/throttle were all jacked up. I reinstalled logics key binding along with target and drivers. Nothing worked. It was not recognizing my HOTAS. I ran the target script and this is what was generated:
Running script: C:\Falcon BMS 4.34\User\Config\TWCS Throttle-FalconBMS.tmc
Mapped plugin module “C:\Program Files (x86)\Thrustmaster\TARGET\Plugins\sys.dll”
Compile Succeeded.
Physical USB HID devices managed by script!
Currently plugged USB HID devices[2]:
1: “TWCS Throttle” - “USB\VID_044F&PID_B687&REV_0110”
2: “T.16000M” - “USB\VID_044F&PID_B10A&REV_0500”
USB HID device with hardware id “VID_044F&PID_0403” cannot be found
USB HID device “TWCS Throttle”(USB\VID_044F&PID_B687\00000030) selected
USB HID device with hardware id “VID_044F&PID_B679” cannot be found
USB HID device with hardware id “VID_044F&PID_B68F” cannot be found
Virtual HID devices managed by script!
Connecting virtual joystick…Done
Device name set to Thrustmaster Combined
Connecting virtual keyboard…Done
Connecting virtual mouse (absolute axes)…DoneI tried rebooting and switching USB ports but nothing worked. The device sorting file is showing properly (root) but when you check USB controllers the root file does not populate.
This is driving me crazy. Anyone have an idea of what may be going on or what else I could try?
Thanks
CarswellAFB
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Hello CarswellAFB,
Try to test the USB ports with a Pendrive, see
if it works.
If you have another Computer, try Joystick on it!
See if everything works, it eliminates, some hypotheses! -
Thanks. The throttle and stick work when you test them out on the USB Controller app. They just don’t work with the script that is being generated. It’s like they are not being seen properly. No “root” coming up instead of TWCS Throttle. Appreciate the help.
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I think the problem is TARGET !!
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I am considering getting new HOTAS & RUDDER with the 16000 pack, HOTAS and Rudder Pedals, but you guys are saying in this thread that it wont work smoothly Plug&Play? There is extra work involved? Installing extra software to make it work? No one has simply connected the 16000 and have it work first time on BMS?
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I am considering getting new HOTAS & RUDDER with the 16000 pack, HOTAS and Rudder Pedals, but you guys are saying in this thread that it wont work smoothly Plug&Play? There is extra work involved? Installing extra software to make it work? No one has simply connected the 16000 and have it work first time on BMS?
My experience is having read posts over the years is that target causes more problems than it helps.
I have the stick throttle and pedals. To get it working I’ve plugged the pedals directly into the throttle (not usb on PC) and used voiceattack to bind functions to the throttle pov hat (as BMS will only recognise the one on the stick). And that’s it, works fine for me!
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My experience …… me!
Thank-you very much, I do not know what you mean by TARGET, is that a software related to configuring joysticks?
I am seriously considering buying the whole pack, but a bit afraid of what you say about using voiceattack.
Is that difficult to configure or something that may or may not work at all? Using windows 10.
Please help me, trying to understand if I will be able to use all the HAT buttons on the throttle.
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Thank-you very much, I do not know what you mean by TARGET, is that a software related to configuring joysticks?
I am seriously considering buying the whole pack, but a bit afraid of what you say about using voiceattack.
Is that difficult to configure or something that may or may not work at all? Using windows 10.
Please help me, trying to understand if I will be able to use all the HAT buttons on the throttle.
Yeah thrustmasters target software.
The pov hat is a BMS issue - the codebase that it originates from only recognises one POV hat, so voice attack is my workaround. Target is another. I assume the pov hat issue happens with other brands too.
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Yeah thrustmasters target software.
The pov hat is a BMS issue - the codebase that it originates from only recognises one POV hat, so voice attack is my workaround. Target is another. I assume the pov hat issue happens with other brands too.
i ran into this issue aswell and people recommended to use gremlin…. maybe give it a try? setting it up is easy… though only con to this is… you need to run gremlin everytime u play bms
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Thank-you very much, obsidianukl and hellguard.
I have the webpage ready to buy the 16000 flight pack, just havent clicked on “buy” yet.
Trying to understand if I really should. My logitech joystick is not working very well, but it is working. Heck. I hate to spend money on toys, but then again I dont have any other expenses on toys to think about, so what the heck. I don’t know.
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Well what the heck, I considered this for over a week, and I ordered the 16000 M Flight Pack, rudder, throttle, joystick.
Now play the waiting game… Hopefully in a week it will be here.
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Its here!
But now how to configure?
Standalone BMS launcher mod is not working.
Im trying to make gremlin work but theres no explanation yet how to.
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Hey, grats on the purchase.
Is there something specific which is unclear for my setup (see first page)?
If you’re asking more generally, and don’t want to use my setup, could you please open another thread? -
I am in the process of trying your setup as I write. I will get back in a minute.
So far the standalone new mod launcher did not work. Some buttons got mapped, but nothing useful got done as to axis…
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I have to give this up because its not working as should, some axis correctly show as “thrust virtual…” others dont. Rudder is not mapped.
I did not like the setup of buttons in joystick rudder.
This is not something one can copy paste, this really is an issue each player has to resolve himself.
What is needed is something that clearly and effectively, unambiguously puts a button or axis to do what you want. Not sure if that software exists.