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    • B3rNO
      B3rNO last edited by

      What is wrong with RWR of F-16 RNoAF, why doesn’t it detect Naval Threats?
      Is that a known bug, or we doing something wrong?

      [img=https://i.postimg.cc/hjnZqkYK/BMS-SIG-B3.png

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      • Dee-Jay
        Dee-Jay last edited by

        I have to check again but if it is like the regular RWR (ALR56? I do not remember) there is no “naval mode”.

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        • B3rNO
          B3rNO @Dee-Jay last edited by

          @Dee-Jay:

          I have to check again but if it is like the regular RWR (ALR56? I do not remember) there is no “naval mode”.

          That would be very strange considering that F-16 RNoAF is able to carry anti-ship missiles like AGM-119 Penguin.

          [img=https://i.postimg.cc/hjnZqkYK/BMS-SIG-B3.png

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          • Dee-Jay
            Dee-Jay @B3rNO last edited by

            I am not saying that it can’t detect radar on ship. Jist that there is no called "Naval"mode … Means that they are associated to any other land based radar. Now … What ship? What radar type? Are they working in the band range of this RWR ?

            Again, I have to check

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            • Dee-Jay
              Dee-Jay @Dee-Jay last edited by

              UNKNOWN mode has been activated ?

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              • B3rNO
                B3rNO @Dee-Jay last edited by

                @Dee-Jay:

                UNKNOWN mode has been activated ?

                Confirm. Still no spikes.

                [img=https://i.postimg.cc/hjnZqkYK/BMS-SIG-B3.png

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                • Red Dog
                  Red Dog @B3rNO last edited by

                  Doesn’t Norway have terma and ATD?

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                  • B3rNO
                    B3rNO @B3rNO last edited by

                    Now I’m confused a little bit.

                    Compare that RWR with one from video….

                    [img=https://i.postimg.cc/hjnZqkYK/BMS-SIG-B3.png

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                    • Dee-Jay
                      Dee-Jay @B3rNO last edited by

                      Which ship ot was?

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                      • B3rNO
                        B3rNO @Dee-Jay last edited by

                        Kuznetsov and Kirov.

                        [img=https://i.postimg.cc/hjnZqkYK/BMS-SIG-B3.png

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                        • Dee-Jay
                          Dee-Jay @B3rNO last edited by

                          @B3rNO:

                          Kuznetsov and Kirov.

                          SAN6 (?) … equivalent to SA-10 => No or almost no RWR warnings.

                          EDIT: Nope … Kirov => SAN8 Kuz => SAN9

                          However … might be out of band. As said a lot of time … RWR is not a perfect tool.

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                          • B3rNO
                            B3rNO @Dee-Jay last edited by

                            @Dee-Jay:

                            SAN6 (?) … equivalent to SA-10 => No or almost no RWR warnings.

                            EDIT: Nope … Kirov => SAN8 Kuz => SAN9

                            However … might be out of band. As said a lot of time … RWR is not a perfect tool.

                            SAN8 and SAN9 works as S-300 thats obvious, nevertheless you can see SA-10 spikes on RWR, right?
                            F-16 RNoAF is not able to spot Kuznetsov and Kirov spikes while blk52 can see them clearly:

                            Same mission - blk52

                            [img=https://i.postimg.cc/hjnZqkYK/BMS-SIG-B3.png

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                            • Dee-Jay
                              Dee-Jay @B3rNO last edited by

                              Okay I’ve checked it … For some reasons those ship are out of ALR69’s library/band range.
                              EDIT: I must say that I do even not know how to power up the model of RWR (do not know where is the hotspot?) … so … might be a bug. (?)

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                              • Focaldesign
                                Focaldesign @Red Dog last edited by

                                @Red:

                                Doesn’t Norway have terma and ATD?

                                Yes, same as Belgium, but ATD is not (yet?) modeled in BMS for now.

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                                • B3rNO
                                  B3rNO @Dee-Jay last edited by

                                  @Dee-Jay:

                                  Okay I’ve checked it … For some reasons those ship are out of ALR69’s library/band range.
                                  EDIT: I must say that I do even not know how to power up the model of RWR (do not know where is the hotspot?) … so … might be a bug. (?)

                                  So, all blocks who’re using “Raytheon(litton) AN/ALR-69(v)” have no Naval Spikes from that ships:

                                  Blk15 A
                                  Blk 15 B
                                  BLK 25
                                  Blk 30
                                  Blk 32
                                  MLU RDAF
                                  MLU RNIAF
                                  MLU RNoAF
                                  KF-16C Blk 32
                                  Blk 52+ EAF

                                  [img=https://i.postimg.cc/hjnZqkYK/BMS-SIG-B3.png

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                                  • NIL
                                    NIL @Focaldesign last edited by

                                    I thought it was supposed to be this quiet in the Danish MLU, but I guess not. Also wondered why I got radar spikes from airbases on the RWR flying the BLK 15 B model, but nothing in the MLU. The BLK 15 does have a different pit and not the same RWR. Hope this “bug” will be corrected in any future update on the models mentioned.

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                                    • Dee-Jay
                                      Dee-Jay @NIL last edited by

                                      Guys … please … apologies. I am deeply confused and sorry for all that chit chat …

                                      Slap me :oops:

                                      @NIL:

                                      Hope this “bug” will be corrected in any future update on the models mentioned.

                                      … yes, it will. I’ve fixed it a month ago but I did not remember it. :nosep:

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                                      • Arty
                                        Arty last edited by

                                        So its not fixed in 4.33.4 right? Or it is and u forgot it was fixed?

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                                        • Dee-Jay
                                          Dee-Jay @Arty last edited by

                                          I do not think it is included in 3.33.4

                                          That said … It doesn’t work either on my btest version. So I will have to take a deeper look.

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