TrackIR vs. Delanclip vs. EDTracker (for Win10 64bit)
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Hi,
I am looking for a headtracker, because POV hat + padlocking isn’t doing it.
6DOF would be nice, because I would like to put zoom/FOV on the Z-axis.
In my opinion, this is not cheating, because even a 4K screen still has a much lower resolution than the human eye, especially with wide FOVs.
There is A-A smart scaling, but not for A-G, so zooming in on ground objects would be useful.
My OS is Windows 10, 64 bit. I heard of some non-TrackIR headtrackers to not work properly with Win10, so this might be important.I am thinking about three headtrackers:
EDTracker: Only 3DOF, but there seems to be a way to make it 6DOF using FaceTrackNoIR. Requires modding a PS3Eye.
DelanClip: Requires modding a PS3Eye.
TrackIR: Very expensive, maybe the best, maybe not. Most plug-and-play soulution, but I heard about bad build quality.
Of course I am also open for other headtrackers, but these seem to be the most common ones.I heard about PS3Eye losing focus after removing the IR-block-filter. is there any way to know if it will lose focus?
I’m probably not going to buy the TrackIR, unless the others won’t work.Any recommendations both for hardware and software? Especially, has anyone compared them?
Also, is it possible to control the Z-axis via joystick/keyboard?Thanks for your replies.
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You cannot go wrong with the delanclip (get the whole package including a modded ps3 eye that Tomasz offers as well). OpenTrack and FaceTrackNoIR are both nice and free (or low-cost, in the latter case) headtracking frameworks that work very nicely in a variety of sims.
All the best, Uwe
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+1 for delanclip
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Okay.
Delanclip sounds good.
You said that both OpenTrack and FaceTrackNoIR are nice. Are there any preferences or differences between them?
I guess, www.delanengineering.com is the only shop or are there other (especially German) shops?
Also, do I need the “PS3 Camera - Mounting Clip”? I could build something to place the camera behind and above the screen. However, this would not prevent accidentally moving the camera.Thanks so far.
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What about the Trackhat Clip? I’m using of these and I’m very satisfied with it. It’s 6 DOF and it works fine with OpenTrack.
website: https://www.trackhat.org/
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Okay.
Delanclip sounds good.
You said that both OpenTrack and FaceTrackNoIR are nice. Are there any preferences or differences between them?
I guess, www.delanengineering.com is the only shop or are there other (especially German) shops?
Also, do I need the “PS3 Camera - Mounting Clip”? I could build something to place the camera behind and above the screen. However, this would not prevent accidentally moving the camera.Thanks so far.
I prefer opentrack - its still being worked on / updated and 2.3.10 (the latest stable) works very well for a ps3 eye and delanclip combo.
I use those 3m sticky velcro pads to secure my pre modded (by delanclip) ps3eye to the top of my monitor.;
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Command-Damage-Free-Picture-Hanging-17201-ES/dp/B01KK9EDW6/ref=asc_df_B01KK9EDW6/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309785471682&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10336393676152026897&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007200&hvtargid=pla-632900130679&psc=1 -
Actually, I will rather get the Trackhat clip (https://www.trackhat.org/product-page/trackhat-clip-head-tracking-kit), because it is nearly identical to the Delanclip (same principle, same camera) and is cheaper for me.
It also looks better. No open wires on the clip and I like that it is 3d-printed. -
As for the tracking applications, I use both (ftnoir on win7, opentrack on Linux) and I’m rather happy with both
All the best, Uwe
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Free 5DOF tracker, wire or bluetooth https://sites.google.com/site/diyheadtracking/home
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I build a DIY Headtracker I think back in 2011 with a Track Cap with LED Ripped from a torch light, Microsoft VX1000 Webcam and Freetrack.
Started from Scratch as I got back to Falcon a few weeks ago.
3d printed Headset Clip with IR Lenses, PS3Eye Webcam. Software I tested were FreetrackNoIr and Opentrack. Wheras they both use Pointtracker as Input I found it more comfortable to Setup Opentrack to my needs.
Regarding the Webcam I didn’t really feel a difference in using my old MS VX-1000 at 30FPS versus PS3Eye at 75FPS (cant get it above). Especially with the Microsoft Webcam I hadn’t to remove IR Filter or add a Daylight filter. Just Setting the exposure all the way down was sufficent enought to stable recognize the IR Points even in a fully lighted room.
Old Hat to the left, New 3D Printed Clip to the RightRegard Oakdesign
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I build a DIY Headtracker I think back in 2011 with a Track Cap with LED Ripped from a torch light, Microsoft VX1000 Webcam and Freetrack.
Started from Scratch as I got back to Falcon a few weeks ago.
3d printed Headset Clip with IR Lenses, PS3Eye Webcam. Software I tested were FreetrackNoIr and Opentrack. Wheras they both use Pointtracker as Input I found it more comfortable to Setup Opentrack to my needs.
Regarding the Webcam I didn’t really feel a difference in using my old MS VX-1000 at 30FPS versus PS3Eye at 75FPS (cant get it above). Especially with the Microsoft Webcam I hadn’t to remove IR Filter or add a Daylight filter. Just Setting the exposure all the way down was sufficent enought to stable recognize the IR Points even in a fully lighted room.
Old Hat to the left, New 3D Printed Clip to the RightRegard Oakdesign
Hello,
Share knowledge, make STL file available on Thingiverse!
Search Thingiverse, you can find STL file for Cap clip!
If you want to impress, see this link below!
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:49142
malpaso -
Hello,
Share knowledge, make STL file available on Thingiverse!
Search Thingiverse, you can find STL file for Cap clip!
If you want to impress, see this link below!
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:49142
malpasohttps://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2458689
Includes links to resitor calculation to calculate for different input voltages.My own Remix of the clip linked above. As My Headphone is not straight I twisted the holder plate and the clip itself by 15°
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3865187Regards Richard