DEM data
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Make sense. E00 is a vector format, that is, shapefiles (points, lines, polygons).
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e00 are compressed files of data.
I recently had some talk with Binanees.The convertor to e00 still exists and is a DOS command line tool.
From Falcon wiki what we know is that we want those:- Political/Ocean
- Populated Places (both Polygon & Point)
- Roads - Drainage (network)
- Aeronautical
We suggest you copy the feature files (*.e00 files) into the dir where your DEM data is located, then rename the features like:
rdline.e00 == countryname-road.e00
dnnet.e00 == countryname-river.e00
eapoint.e00 == countryname-airport.e00
pppoint.e00 == countryname-label.e00
ponet.e00 == countryname-coast.e00
pppoly.e00 == countryname-city.e00as we see each is an e00 file.
ArcInfo
ESRI softwareArcInfo interchange file
[data transfer] A file format, also known as an export file, used to enable a coverage, grid or TIN and an associated INFO table to be transferred between different machines which are not connected by any type of file sharing network. ArcInfo interchange files have a .E00 extension, which increments to .E01, .E02, and so on, if the interchange file is composed of several separate files.ArcInfo workspace
[ESRI software] A file-based collection of coverages, grids, TINs, or shapefiles stored as a directory of folders in the file system.each e00 is like a project that contains files inside like one file for points one file for metadata one file for lines etc and consists of files like:
- A label layer (polygon labels, or free standing points) is named LAB if present.
- A centroid layer (polygon centroids) is named CNT if present.
- An arc (line) layer is named ARC if present.
- A polygon layer is named “PAL” if present.
- A text section is named according to the section subclass.
A region subclass is named according to the subclass name.
info here: https://gdal.org/drivers/vector/avcbin.html
here: https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/82471/when-trying-to-convert-an-e00-file-into-a-shapefile-with-ogr2ogr-getting-erro
and here:http://avce00.maptools.org/docs/v7_e00_cover.htmlNow in modern GIS data we have those:
.cpg
.dbf
.prj
.shp
.shxThose are ESRI shapefile format.
Now the following are mandatory:
- .shp — shape format; the feature geometry itself {content-type: x-gis/x-shapefile}
- .shx — shape index format; a positional index of the feature geometry to allow seeking forwards and backwards quickly {content-type: x-gis/x-shapefile}
- .dbf — attribute format; columnar attributes for each shape, in dBase IV format {content-type: application/octet-stream OR text/plain}
It could also have those:
- .prj — projection description, using a well-known text representation of coordinate reference systems {content-type: text/plain OR application/text}
- .sbn and .sbx — a spatial index of the features {content-type: x-gis/x-shapefile}
- .fbn and .fbx — a spatial index of the features that are read-only {content-type: x-gis/x-shapefile}
- .ain and .aih — an attribute index of the active fields in a table {content-type: x-gis/x-shapefile}
- .ixs — a geocoding index for read-write datasets {content-type: x-gis/x-shapefile}
- .mxs — a geocoding index for read-write datasets (ODB format) {content-type: x-gis/x-shapefile}
- .atx — an attribute index for the .dbf file in the form of shapefile.columnname.atx (ArcGIS 8 and later) {content-type: x-gis/x-shapefile}
- .shp.xml — geospatial metadata in XML format, such as ISO 19115 or other XML schema {content-type: application/fgdc+xml}
- .cpg — used to specify the code page (only for .dbf) for identifying the character encoding to be used {content-type: text/plain OR x-gis/x-shapefile}
- .qix — an alternative quadtree spatial index used by MapServer and GDAL/OGR software {content-type: x-gis/x-shapefile}
So now we can have an idea of the link between the old and the new files schema.
So we will need convertors for all those. each by each like convert the dbf shx and shp file to a PAL and LAB and text.
Unfortunately since shp files are new and e00 or Arc/Info are old finding new to old file format convertors is way hard.I don’t know if taking the time to find such convertors will be ok.
Without being sure and from the search I made ARCGIS desktop applications from ESRI version 9.x or older version where capable to convert .e00 files to shp files (like Arcmap info here: https://support.esri.com/en/technical-article/000004705 or ArcCatalog info here:https://gis.ubc.ca/2018/02/how-to-create-a-shapefile-from-an-e00/ ) maybe they could do and the opposite or be able to create arcinfo files and then with the e00 convertor you can create the e00 files from arc info files.
but those where paywhere versions.This is from ArcGIS 9.3: http://webhelp.esri.com/arcgisdesktop/9.3/index.cfm?TopicName=What_is_a_coverage
Also look here: https://community.esri.com/thread/2687
I know it’s not the help we might like-want to get but… it’s all I can find.
Now searching my disks I just found an ARCGIS 9.3. I don’t want to fubar my system right now So I’ll try it in my old laptop and we might get lucky if this dvd has inside something valuable.
Still not sure what we’re looking for in it, probably world data if they are there (I think they must be… by the size of it) -
Not sure what you mean?
I can try to retrace where I found it, no promises tho, if i remember it was buried quite deep into the internet.
Edit : Found the original source (https://psu.app.box.com/v/dcw/file/55755582550), still comes as one big compressed folder, much the same as what I uploaded on google drive.
This link looks legitimate.
I opened the files of Afghanistan and Pakistan in GIS app (ArcMap 10.6.1) and they look ok to me:
I mean the detail is for laughs compared to current data, but the info is there. points names lines lakes like here the Dashte Nawur:
So if 10.6.1 doesn’t do the job for e00 9.3 will do it.
All that it seems to be missing is the GIS application and knowledge of the application to clip the wanted area which is rather easy.
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This link looks legitimate.
I opened the files of Afghanistan and Pakistan in GIS app (ArcMap 10.6.1) and they look ok to me:
https://i.postimg.cc/FsgwhSjd/Annotation-2020-05-29-235149.png
https://i.postimg.cc/dtBNbYYG/Annotation-2020-05-29-235247.png
https://i.postimg.cc/m2R6pr0b/Annotation-2020-05-29-235421.png
I mean the detail is for laughs compared to current data, but the info is there. points names lines lakes like here the Dashte Nawur:
https://i.postimg.cc/T357pWbJ/Annotation-2020-05-30-000705.png
So if 10.6.1 doesn’t do the job for e00 9.3 will do it.
All that it seems to be missing is the GIS application and knowledge of the application to clip the wanted area which is rather easy.
Arty all theese are good IF i could make the freaking dem2terrain to work on my win10 x64. I somehow did it before the format now all new in the hard drive it still refuses to work so whatever info i can have on all the features etc it doesnt come handy if i dont have the very basic program running….
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when u say it refuses to work what do you mean?
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Also this scattered info looks nice:
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?36207--shp-to--e00-data-for-theater&highlight=e00 -
when u say it refuses to work what do you mean?
I mean that i try to load the files Joe has offered to the community and Dem2terrain does nothing… that is what i mean
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well Joe’s links are dead… does anyone have them or anything? I must have downloaded in the past but don’t recall the name or file type to search it in my disks.
I really never used Dem2terrain and all i see is that it just asks for an HDR file which is the same for all 64seg theaters. so just place a copy of an hdr file somewhere open it with D2T and nothing happens.
From my perspective about the DCW data files they look ok.
And we don’t actually need e00 as I understand it Dem2terrain does that? Well as input it says to load the e00 files, but it asks for hdr. u just place the files at the same place with the elevation data and e00 files?
I don’t know this program is a total mystery.Anyway ArcGis 9.3 is not working but Arcgis 10.6.1 works just fine. What I understood is that the DCW files linked are already coverage files.
So in theory Dem2terrain reads all the areas data u set a rectangle and it cuts out (clips as we say nowadays) the wanted data and provides the files ready for Falcon.If someone knows anything else… please correct me.
So what are we missing actually here?
Edit: I also liked this:
[h=2]Step 2[/h]
- Create a new email to blueprint4[at]gmx.de
- Set subject to “Theater SRTM Create [Theater name]”.
- Put the theater center coordinates and the theater size in the text.
- Send the email.
- Wait for my reply.
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well Joe’s links are dead… does anyone have them or anything? I must have downloaded in the past but don’t recall the name or file type to search it in my disks.
I really never used Dem2terrain and all i see is that it just asks for an HDR file which is the same for all 64seg theaters. so just place a copy of an hdr file somewhere open it with D2T and nothing happens.
From my perspective about the DCW data files they look ok.
And we don’t actually need e00 as I understand it Dem2terrain does that? Well as input it says to load the e00 files, but it asks for hdr. u just place the files at the same place with the elevation data and e00 files?
I don’t know this program is a total mystery.Anyway ArcGis 9.3 is not working but Arcgis 10.6.1 works just fine. What I understood is that the DCW files linked are already coverage files.
So in theory Dem2terrain reads all the areas data u set a rectangle and it cuts out (clips as we say nowadays) the wanted data and provides the files ready for Falcon.If someone knows anything else… please correct me.
So what are we missing actually here?
Edit: I also liked this:
I think we really do need an update in theater tools besides the amazing terrain editor from Sakis…
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This link looks legitimate.
I opened the files of Afghanistan and Pakistan in GIS app (ArcMap 10.6.1) and they look ok to me:
https://i.postimg.cc/FsgwhSjd/Annotation-2020-05-29-235149.png
https://i.postimg.cc/dtBNbYYG/Annotation-2020-05-29-235247.png
https://i.postimg.cc/m2R6pr0b/Annotation-2020-05-29-235421.png
I mean the detail is for laughs compared to current data, but the info is there. points names lines lakes like here the Dashte Nawur:
https://i.postimg.cc/T357pWbJ/Annotation-2020-05-30-000705.png
So if 10.6.1 doesn’t do the job for e00 9.3 will do it.
All that it seems to be missing is the GIS application and knowledge of the application to clip the wanted area which is rather easy.
Wow so you made it!, I mean looks like we got what we were looking for or do I still see a step missing, this is amazing to see. How about some part of India and we have a much awaited/wanted/desired Pak-Ind theater project getting to roll
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So either something preventing Dem2terrain to work on my PC probably. Tried it in vanila win10 x64pro in a lapto and it runs with no problems, no admin rights, compatibility etc…… this is really strange… i will dig deeper into it…
EDIT: For those who gonna say why you dont use the laptop then? Answer the screen is freaking small thats why…
Cheers
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I dont know how i made it run! lolz… something was messing with it in the registry probably cause i had a lot of invalid entries in the registry witch i cleaned up!
EDIT: No screen… 32’ Tv-monitor
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Wow so you made it!, I mean looks like we got what we were looking for or do I still see a step missing, this is amazing to see. How about some part of India and we have a much awaited/wanted/desired Pak-Ind theater project getting to roll
yeap on the you missing a step or steps…
Walking blind by touch sense here.
we just try and error… I don’t know if the Blueprint step posted earlier is still mandatory.What I would consider the next logical step is to for each country to pack the e00 files and tosh them to dem2terrain along with the srtm elevation data.
Do you have those?
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with the srtm elevation data.
And the HDR file that dem2ter asks for? where it comes from? and what next?
The elevation data is contained in the WorldMap.HDR file!!
C9
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yeap on the you missing a step or steps…
Walking blind by touch sense here.
we just try and error… I don’t know if the Blueprint step posted earlier is still mandatory.What I would consider the next logical step is to for each country to pack the e00 files and tosh them to dem2terrain along with the srtm elevation data.
Do you have those?
And the HDR file that dem2ter asks for? where it comes from? and what next?What exactly we are looking for actually is those e00 data… or something that we can either translate to e00 or “shove” it to dem2ter and the program can read it…
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From the dcw data use the convertor and you are done.
Remains to verify the change for \ to /.
But again dem2ter asks for an hdr file when you select open.
Let’s say we use the exact same hdr file as is in any theater, then what? How do you open the e00 files from dem2ter when it still asks for hdr?Στάλθηκε από το MI 5 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
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@Cloud:
The elevation data is contained in the WorldMap.HDR file!!
C9
And where does that hdr file come from? How do you generate it for your theater?
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And where does that hdr file come from? How do you generate it for your theater?
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Arty, C9 refers to what Joe Labrada has freely give to all BMS community. Its THE WHOLE world in DEM data… Now if you want to make a specific theater move the box (32/64/128/256 segments your choice) to the long/lat you want and you export the l2 filethats it! As for the converter you said i still haven’t had any luck on this…
Theater specific HDR files are nothing to do with the dem2terrain (refering to c:\falcon…\data\add-on xx\terrdata\terrain\xx.hdr) actually its a file the sim creates by it self -
Just an example: