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    • W Offline
      whitedeath
      last edited by

      hello everyone!
      i just wondering is there any way to use my dx buttons to open the ai comms? (using logitech G940 and Quest 3 VR)
      because when in VR i have to take off my VR headset press T for example and then make the communications
      when i try to keymap this buttons the are shown green and with douple click nothing happens

      thank you!

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      • BoxerB Offline
        Boxer @whitedeath
        last edited by Boxer

        @whitedeath said in keymaping on ai comms?:

        hello everyone!
        i just wondering is there any way to use my dx buttons to open the ai comms? (using logitech G940 and Quest 3 VR)
        because when in VR i have to take off my VR headset press T for example and then make the communications
        when i try to keymap this buttons the are shown green and with douple click nothing happens

        thank you!

        Yes, you can do this. I have a DX button mapped ICP and the QWERTY equivalent callbacks are mapped to the DX shifted layer with direct callback mappings so I don’t have to use any keys to open and exercise the comms menus. This makes the master mode buttons along the top my menu opening controls. Note that there are a couple of uncommon callbacks to help make this work – for the switching of page to page, there are page next and page prev callbacks so you use those instead of invoking the Q equivalent button many times to move from page to page (I map these to the up/down ICP rocker shift layer). There are direct callbacks for the digits too (so I have those mapped to the number pad on the ICP).

        For my ICP device it looks like this:

        #==================================================================================
        SimDoNothing -1 0 0XFFFFFFFF 0 0 0 -2 "========== ICP SHIFTED =========="
        RadioAWACSCommand 288 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioWingCommand 289 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioElementCommand 290 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioFlightCommand 291 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioTowerCommand 292 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioTankerCommand 293 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioMenuOne 296 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioMenuTwo 297 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioMenuThree 298 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioMenuFour 304 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioMenuFive 305 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioMenuSix 306 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioMenuSeven 312 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioMenuEight 315 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        RadioMenuNine 316 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        OTWRadioMenuClear 299 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        OTWRadioMenuStep 313 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        OTWRadioMenuStepBack 314 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
        

        –
        Cheers,

        Mark.

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        • airtex2019A Offline
          airtex2019 Global Moderator @whitedeath
          last edited by

          @whitedeath tools like Joy2Key and AutoHotkey can do this

          but I think most people are opting for voice command software… FoxVox or VoiceAttack etc

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          • SemlerPDXS Offline
            SemlerPDX @whitedeath
            last edited by SemlerPDX

            @whitedeath If you are unable to get these buttons mapped through the integrated Alternative Launcher in BMS, you can manually edit the keyfile you are using to add these DX buttons as callbacks for whatever action you want.

            You can find documentation and a list of all callbacks in the Docs folder in the BMS programs folder here:
            1d21b8e8-a111-4768-ba5f-860c6b77b5b6-image.png

            You can also manually edit a keyfile in a notepad following instructions detailed here:
            https://www.blu3wolf.com/falconbms/Kolbe/Falcon BMS Keyfile Manual.pdf

            Of course, I’m biased: IMHO the best way to interact with the radio menus in BMS is through voice command & control software. I develop freeware & donationware advanced voice control systems for VoiceAttack, which is a $10 (USD) program that allows users such as myself to create fully featured profiles that can be shared and imported into VoiceAttack by other users.

            In addition to my own AVCS4 BMS Radio Menus profile (my systems only cover the radio menus), you can find a great full-control BMS Plugin for VoiceAttack by JanJan, and also the amazing FoxVox application by Foxter (a freeware program). Check out the Voice Control section of these forums for these and many other voice control options shared by members of this community:
            https://forum.falcon-bms.com/category/28/voice-control

            AVCS4 Voice Control Radio Menus for Falcon BMS (and other profiles for VoiceAttack): veterans-gaming.com/avcs

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            • drtbkjD Offline
              drtbkj @whitedeath
              last edited by drtbkj

              @whitedeath Hi, WD. I second what Airtex and Semler wrote about Voice Attack. In fact, Semler has made a U3 profile that is very comprehensive. Plus, it’s easy to make new commands. For example, I like the term “Bogey Dope” for “nearest air threat”. So, you go into VA,click New Command, type in what you want to say, then in the main window enter Q then 2. (if memory serves) . Then do the applies and saves and Viola. . Another example- in the F-18 VA “pulls the EPU pin” when I flip my HOTAS APU switch. So, you can make non-verbal commands, too
              In U3 I went into 3D and used my cellphone to take pictures of the comm menus.
              One “trick” to remember with VA is sometimes VA’s voice recog. has problems. For example, I had problems with “Roger Ball”. The trick is to but something VA can recognize in “when I say”. For this example, for me “Roger Bowl” looks weird but works 😉

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              • SemlerPDXS Offline
                SemlerPDX
                last edited by

                If it helps, I assembled all the radio menus in an infographic for my AVCS4 BMS Radio Menus profile for VoiceAttack - it contains notes specific to my systems, but can be ignored if just wanting a single graphical reference for all possible radio menu pages:
                https://i.imgur.com/k6H6kHV.png

                AVCS4 Voice Control Radio Menus for Falcon BMS (and other profiles for VoiceAttack): veterans-gaming.com/avcs

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                • BoxerB Offline
                  Boxer @whitedeath
                  last edited by Boxer

                  @whitedeath said in keymaping on ai comms?:

                  hello everyone!
                  i just wondering is there any way to use my dx buttons to open the ai comms? (using logitech G940 and Quest 3 VR)
                  because when in VR i have to take off my VR headset press T for example and then make the communications
                  when i try to keymap this buttons the are shown green and with douple click nothing happens

                  thank you!

                  Yes, you can do this. I have a DX button mapped ICP and the QWERTY equivalent callbacks are mapped to the DX shifted layer with direct callback mappings so I don’t have to use any keys to open and exercise the comms menus. This makes the master mode buttons along the top my menu opening controls. Note that there are a couple of uncommon callbacks to help make this work – for the switching of page to page, there are page next and page prev callbacks so you use those instead of invoking the Q equivalent button many times to move from page to page (I map these to the up/down ICP rocker shift layer). There are direct callbacks for the digits too (so I have those mapped to the number pad on the ICP).

                  For my ICP device it looks like this:

                  #==================================================================================
                  SimDoNothing -1 0 0XFFFFFFFF 0 0 0 -2 "========== ICP SHIFTED =========="
                  RadioAWACSCommand 288 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioWingCommand 289 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioElementCommand 290 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioFlightCommand 291 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioTowerCommand 292 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioTankerCommand 293 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioMenuOne 296 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioMenuTwo 297 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioMenuThree 298 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioMenuFour 304 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioMenuFive 305 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioMenuSix 306 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioMenuSeven 312 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioMenuEight 315 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  RadioMenuNine 316 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  OTWRadioMenuClear 299 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  OTWRadioMenuStep 313 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  OTWRadioMenuStepBack 314 -1 -2 0 0x0 -1
                  

                  –
                  Cheers,

                  Mark.

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                  • W Offline
                    whitedeath @Boxer
                    last edited by whitedeath

                    i will first try the joytokey app because i have already problem with my G940
                    its not reccognize all of its buttons so i hope with the joy to key i will make everything work
                    then i will try also the voice attack looks geat! thank you very much for your responses!

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                    • foxsterF Offline
                      foxster @whitedeath
                      last edited by

                      @whitedeath Just FYI, FoxVox surpasses all of JoyToKey’s functionality, even without the voice control, and it’s free to use. You can do direct key mapping and not use any of the voice control. Feel free to use whichever you prefer, but I personally would pass on JoyToKey in favor of it (though I’m biased 😁). For voice control, VoiceAttack with Semler’s AVCS4 is excellent - user preference should decide that.

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