F-18 ramp start

[pandacat]

Anyone got a good and detailed F-18 ramp start video to recommend? Most of the youtubes that I can find are either vague or half-ass.

[Artur]

Or at least a checklist

[Agave_Blue]

@pandacat:

Anyone got a good and detailed F-18 ramp start video to recommend? Most of the youtubes that I can find are either vague or half-ass.

Which ones have you found? I’d hate to point you to a video that someone prepared in good faith only to find out it’s ‘half-assed’.

@Artur:

Or at least a checklist

It’s built on BMS F16 avionics …. they key checklist points (i.e. those that have affect in BMS) are the same.

[pandacat]

@Agave_Blue:

Which ones have you found? I’d hate to point you to a video that someone prepared in good faith only to find out it’s ‘half-assed’.

LOL. Here is the list I watched on youtube so far (by user name):
1. Therandomsqueak (I can follow this video, but he doesn’t really explain why. Just “click this, click that”)
2. Burner (A good one, but he jumps from left to right. I got kinda lost a few minutes into the tutorial)
3. #falcon

There are a few others, but they are not in English, so couldn’t understand what they are saying? =( I really like Jason Cavanaugh’s old F-16 ramp start video for 72nd VFW. Orderly flow and good explanation. I am looking for something similar to that quality.

[Agave_Blue]

Oh, OK. Well, the one I had in mind is probably just as ‘vague or half-ass’.

Maybe you’d be willing to make one in English that is more comprehensive?

[Agave_Blue]

Found a comprehensive check list for you (in English … ). Got the hint from Burner’s video … thanks for the link (MUCH less ‘vague and …’ than the one I’ve used).

Anyhow, checklist here: “F18-ABCD-000, NATOPS FLIGHT MANUAL NAVY MODEL F/A-18A/B/C/D 161353 AND UP AIRCRAFT, 7.1.4 Interior Check”

[pandacat]

@Agave_Blue:

Found a comprehensive check list for you (in English … ). Got the hint from Burner’s video … thanks for the link (MUCH less ‘vague and …’ than the one I’ve used).

Anyhow, checklist here: “F18-ABCD-000, NATOPS FLIGHT MANUAL NAVY MODEL F/A-18A/B/C/D 161353 AND UP AIRCRAFT, 7.1.4 Interior Check”

I found another utube by flounder. That’s you right?

[Agave_Blue]

@pandacat:

I found another utube by flounder. That’s you right?

Yeah, but don’t waste your time on that. Burner’s is far more comprehensive (and (attempts) to follow the check list posted above).

[pandacat]

@Agave_Blue:

Yeah, but don’t waste your time on that. Burner’s is far more comprehensive (and (attempts) to follow the check list posted above).

I like your screen resolutions though.

[Frederf]

I started to translate the F-16 checklist provided with BMS into F-18ese but then I stopped because I realize I didn’t like the steps listed in the F-16 checklist too much. Operationally there are more steps in a different order than the provided CL would indicate. That’s normal as the total procedure would interleave several processes but as a total guide it feels funny. Anyway, I’ll share what I have so far.

The following is the F-16 Block 50/52 Checklists - Main Volume translated for use in the F/A-18 in BMS.

Format of the entry may contain:
F-16 Item
F-18 Item
F-18 Item location
Note

VERIFY CHECK

Fuel Master: ON
GND PWR 1 A: AUTO
Right console, forward panel 5 switches, forward-inboard switch
On by default

Engine Feed Knob: NORM
Fuel MODE Button (LMB inc. RMD dec.): NORM (Fuel Display)
Front panel, lower left.

EPU: NORM
APU: MID
Left console, APU panel
NORM by default

ENG CONT: PRI
FCS ???
Left console, FCS panel
PRI by default

Throttle: OFF

LD GEAR handle: Down

HOOK: UP
Right Aux Panel

MASTER ARM: SAFE
Front panel, left.

AIR SOURCE: NORM
BLEED AIR: L OFF
Right console, ESC panel
LMB once from default OFF position

BEFORE ENGINE START

MAIN PWR: BATT
BATT: ON
Right console, ELEC panel
LMB once from OFF

FLCS PWR TEST: TEST
FCS RESET: RESET
Left console, FCS panel

MAIN PWR: MAIN PWR
BATT: ORIDE
LMB once from ON

EPU GEN Light: Extinguished
EPU PMG Light: Extinguished

Communications: Set UHF Backup

Canopy: Close
Right canopy rail

Chocks: IN

COM1 & COM2 Volume: CW
Front panel, UFC

B/U UHF Radio: Establish

B/U UHF Mode: Main or Both
RLY: Mid or CIPHER
Left console, COMM panel

B/U UHF Function: MAN/PRE/GRD
G.XMT: COMM2/Mid/COMM1
Left Console, COMM panel

B/U UHF Channel: A/R
Channel: A/R
Left Console, COMM panel

Intercom Volume: A/D
VOL TCN: A/D

STARTING ENGINE

JFS: START 2
ENG CRANK: Aft
Left console, APU panel

THROTTLE: Idle
Click Zone

SEC Caution: Extinguished

Engine Warning: Extinguished

JSR: Off at 55% RPM

[pandacat]

Btw, does WDP work for f-18s? Especially those saved DTC settings.

[Frederf]

Yes. Avionics wise the F-16 is a Viper in Hornet’s clothing.

[pandacat]

Thanks to all of your tutorials. I am able to get the jet started, fly off and land back fine. Just some minor questions:
1. I got this green light says “AI” on the right panel right next the UPC. Is it some kinda fault?
2. When I am landing the jet, the way FPM and AOA landing bracket behaves is very different from that of F16. In F16 when you increase AOA by pulling back on stick, the FPM will sink in the bracket. But for hornet, it’s the opposite way: increase AOA will push FPM up the bracket. Is it cuz my flap settings are off?
3. Also, once I take off, my “W” marker (gun cross equivalent in F16) disappears on HUD.
4. Dogfight mode, no gun cross. Kinda annoying.

[Frederf]

I’m guessing it’s RWR-related to seeing “airborne intercept” radar. Try if the “AI” is present in a TE with only yourself in it. I think “CW” is the search radar S from the F-16.

[Blu3wolf]

On the real hornet, the AoA landing bracket is backwards when compared to the F-16. Haven’t flown the 33 hornet yet, but I guess they implemented that feature.

[Agave_Blue]

…
4. Dogfight mode, no gun cross. Kinda annoying.

With the gun in the nose of the F/A-18, isn’t the FPM more or less the gun cross?

Nevermind. I think this is incorrect thinking (for many cases).

[pandacat]

@Frederf:

I’m guessing it’s RWR-related to seeing “airborne intercept” radar. Try if the “AI” is present in a TE with only yourself in it. I think “CW” is the search radar S from the F-16.

Ok, I see. I thought I broke something, lol.

[pandacat]

@Agave_Blue:

With the gun in the nose of the F/A-18, isn’t the FPM more or less the gun cross?

But in dogfite mode, you don’t c the FPM either. There is simply no reference. I saw VRS superbug has gun cross in dogfite mode.

[pandacat]

@Blu3wolf:

On the real hornet, the AoA landing bracket is backwards when compared to the F-16. Haven’t flown the 33 hornet yet, but I guess they implemented that feature.

Well here is something I don’t quite understand. The gap between “W” and FPM is supposed to be your AOA right? So when I pull on stick, W representing nose would go up and the gap between w and fpm increases, right? But in hornet, when I pull stick the gap is shrinking. Or it’s actually the bracket that’s moving not the fpm?

[Blu3wolf]

In the hornet the bracket moves around the FPM. In the viper the bracket is fixed relative to the pitch ladder.