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I have been reading the manuals on the TGP and for the life of me I can’t find out how to zoom in and out on the TGP, I like to zoom in to about 3X to see the target better when I’m about 20 miles out. I am getting a lot better grasp of how the new BMS.4.33 works
Thank you all
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I have been reading the manuals on the TGP and for the life of me I can’t find out how to zoom in and out on the TGP, I like to zoom in to about 3X to see the target better when I’m about 20 miles out. I am getting a lot better grasp of how the new BMS.4.33 works
Thank you all
Range knob for optical zoom (1x through 4), pinky for switching between Wide and Exp FOV for IR.
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Key Board Alt F3 and Alt F4 (BMS Full profile) and mapped it to my “simple” joy stick.
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Thanks and Merry xmas
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For JSOW after turning it on etc per manual how do I get the actual visual to open in TGP?
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The JSOW doesn’t have its own optics, if that’s what you mean. You either use preplanned target steers, or for target of oportunity, just use the FCR/TGP as you would any other AG-weapon. You can designate final attack bearing and dive angle, etc, but if all you care about is to hit a certain point, just launch it. It works similarly to the SDBs. Check out training mission 15.
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For JSOW after turning it on etc per manual how do I get the actual visual to open in TGP?
On the TGP page select OSB#1 “STBY” to bring up the menu and select AA or AG as appropriate.
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Thank you very much did not realize that. Once the TGP screen comes up and locked in radar how do I use the TGP to fine tune the lock in the TGP screen? Keyboard command?
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Now might be a good time to start RTFM For example the LGB tutorial in BMS Training.
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that’s easier than answering the question I assume. I RTFM and don’t get it so unless you can be helpful keep you rtfm to yourself.
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In the manual is states 3.1.7 what to do yet does not state how to make the TGP become the SOI after locking the target in GMT mode. The TGP floats around and I cannot seem to find the keyboard command to switch to TGP for visual lock. 3.4.13 does not state it either.
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Well, if you are using the FCR to lock something you will have issues. You can make the TGP SOI with DMS down, same as 4.32… however unlike 4.32, the SPI should remain at the FCR GMTT position.
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that’s easier than answering the question I assume. I RTFM and don’t get it so unless you can be helpful keep you rtfm to yourself.
Whoa. From how you describe your issues it seems that your issues stems from not fully understanding how the SPI works across systems, and how SOI defines what system you’re currently using. All of this is perfectly described in the manuals, but you won’t be able to understand much of it if you’re only reading small excerpts that vaguely mention the things you are looking for.
The reason people are asked to RTFM is that their quiestions are concerning the fundamentals that are best understood by learning the Viper from the ground up, i.e. follow the BMS Traning Manual and their corresponding TEs. In this instance, you need to find out what the 2 fourway-switches called DMS and TMS do, and apply them in your operation of the target pod. The TMS functions in the Sniper TGP is well explained in -34 chapter 1.9.6, for example. Check out the schematics at 1.1.1 for more on the operation of HOTAS switches, stuff you need to know.
For finetuning the TGP, use DMS down to set TGP as SOI, then use the cursor to move it, pinky to step-zoom, TMS right to ground stabilize and TMS up to point-track on targets/contours, moving or not.
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that’s easier than answering the question I assume. I RTFM and don’t get it so unless you can be helpful keep you rtfm to yourself.
Hi,
FWIW, he is right actually and you wouldn’t get a different answer from me or from other BMS member. I mean yes we all want to help but there is no replacement to reading the manuals, they were written and produced so nicely that you got to at least give them that, no?
The SPI system isn’t so complicated and once you get a hold of it, you must be asking yourself “How we could do it otherwise in the past?”, but until you get a hold (and you must do that if you want to be A-G efficient), it might be a bit confusing because it’s working different than past versions (4.32 and any former versions).
Understanding DMS/TMS functionality is also very basic. I assume that if you will take the necessary time to read ENTIRE sections of the manual in order to get a grip of a certain system, you will see that you understand everything.
And FWIW, if I’m taking myself as an example, I’m very familiar with those systems mentioned here, i.e SPI, TGP, but OTOH I’m NOT familiar almost at all with systems in BMS like TFR, I have no idea really how to even turn the thing on :mrgreen:
But what I know is that if I ever would like to get a hold of it, the first thing I’m going to do is to RTFM very good the TFR part, and only then see if I can work with it or notAnd BTW, everyone in here must stop taking the RTFM comment as some kind of insult, it’s just the short way to tell someone here what I explained above
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People seek help on forums. If I can’t figure it out I will privately ask someone. Hope that makes the rtfm crowd happy. Happy holidays.
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People seek help on forums. If I can’t figure it out I will privately ask someone. Hope that makes the rtfm crowd happy. Happy holidays.
No, that wasn’t my intention to tell you to not seek help on the forums, it’s OK to ask questions, but for most questions the answers are in the manuals. For example your case of asking how to switch SOI from FCR to TGP, so if you read this part in the Dash-1, you would have known:
1.4.2. Sensor of Interest (SOI)
You will need to work on one MFD rather than the other one sometimes. To let the system know where you are focusing you need to use the Sensor of Interest mechanisation. Imagine the following example: the FCR is SOI and set on the left MFD and the HSD is on the right. You would like to delete a threat ring on the HSD but if you move your cursor the captains bar moves both in the HSD and the FCR. To tell the system that you want to work specifically on the HSD, you need to make the HSD SOI. To do so, simply move the DMS (Display Management Switch) on your HOTAS down. The SOI toggles from one MFD to the other. The visual cue for MFD SOI is the big square box drawn outside the OSB labels. If a MFD is not SOI the text NOT SOI is displayed in the centre, reminding the pilot that this display is not the Sensor of Interest.Naturally, the more advanced sections of the manuals are counting on that you are familiar already with the basics, so for example I didn’t found it necessary to specify in the TGP/SPI sections of the 3-4 that DMS-AFT is used to switch SOI between displays, because I counted on that if you read those sections in the 3-4, you already read the Dash-1. It makes sense no?
Happy holidays!
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cptmtge
To compliment what I-Hawk is saying, we are moving closer and closer to duplicating EXACTLY what it is like to fly the real F-16 and not just the block 50 but all blocks. This means that by the time you are in the cockpit, as a real pilot, you would be very familiar with all the weapons systems and avionics through months and months of training and years of flying other aircraft. So learning how to do one small section of things that are inter-related is not helpful to you in the bigger picture. This because without understanding the whole system, you will be stuck on the next problem. However, that is also another way of learning I suppose. I have been doing exactly that because my time is so limited and it is very frustrating. I have decide to stop flying A-G missions till I can grasp the basics which are way deeper than I thought.